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16:00:40 Zakim, this will be HTML
16:00:41 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:00:41 Date: 08 July 2010
16:00:41 HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM
16:00:55 Zakim, this will be HTML_WG
16:00:55 ok, MikeSmith, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:01:00 Zakim, call Mike
16:01:00 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:01:01 +Mike
16:01:02 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0010.html
16:01:03 good day
16:01:03 +[Microsoft]
16:01:04 Title: FW: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-07-08: actions, issues, decisions, revised proposals, future surveys, TF reports from Paul Cotton on 2010-07-07 (public-html@w3.org from July 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
16:01:15 Zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:01:15 +Eliot; got it
16:01:31 test
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16:02:19 Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:02:19 On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Cynthia_Shelly, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Eliot
16:02:40 +Laura_Carlson
16:03:19 Having trouble joining call.
16:03:31 +[Microsoft]
16:03:37 +Julian_Reschke
16:03:49 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
16:03:49 +paulc; got it
16:04:12 +[Microsoft.a]
16:04:23 Maciej: Are you ready to take minutes?
16:04:25 zakim Microsoft.a is krisk
16:04:26 mjs, you calling in?
16:04:42 MikeSmith: yes, just fumbling the dialing a bit, I should be in shortly
16:05:06 Who is here?
16:05:14 zakim, who is here?
16:05:14 On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Cynthia_Shelly, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Eliot, Laura_Carlson, [Microsoft], Julian_Reschke, [Microsoft.a]
16:05:16 [Microsoft] has paulc
16:05:18 On IRC I see Stevef, krisk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Mark, Laura, paulc, Eliot, Lachy, miketaylr, aroben, Philip, laplink, anne, MikeSmith, matiassingers, tlr, mjs, Julian, arronei,
16:05:24 ... dmiles_afk, gavin, karl, shepazu, hober, Yudai, krijn, gsnedders, Dashiva, gavin_, drry, ed_work_, scotfl, CIA-1, Hixie, Slaanesh, jwm, jgraham, jmb, trackbot, webben, pimpbot,
16:05:28 ... Shunsuke, inimino, phenny
16:05:53 zakim, [Microsoft.a] is krisk
16:05:53 +krisk; got it
16:06:53 test
16:07:13 +Wayne_Carr
16:07:45 scribe: MikeSmith
16:07:49 Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, July 8
16:07:52 Chair: Paul
16:07:59 No action items are due.
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16:08:18 Topic: New Issues This Week
16:08:20 None
16:08:40 topic: Working Group decisions
16:09:01 + +1.415.595.aaaa
16:09:07 paulc, I'm in now
16:09:17 scribe: mjs
16:09:47 issue-30?
16:09:47 ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
16:09:47 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
16:09:48 Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:09:50 ISSUE-30 and ISSUE-88 are two issues that had surveys close last week
16:10:05 issue-88?
16:10:05 ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- open
16:10:05 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
16:10:06 Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:10:26 95, 96 and 97 are outstanding - the chairs are working on all 3 of those
16:10:33 Issue-95?
16:10:33 ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- open
16:10:33 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
16:10:34 Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:10:36 we apologize for the backlog
16:10:40 issue-96?
16:10:40 ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- open
16:10:40 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
16:10:41 Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:10:45 Issue-97?
16:10:45 ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- open
16:10:45 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
16:10:47 Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:11:01 Topic: Issues needing revised proposals
16:11:57 The Chairs will be requesting revised proposals for the following issues.
16:12:00 on issues 31, 56, 80, 85 and 100, we asked for revised proposals
16:12:11 Issues 31, 56, 80, 85, 100
16:12:17 Issue-31?
16:12:17 ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent is unknown/unavailable? -- open
16:12:17 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
16:12:18 -Mike
16:12:18 Title: ISSUE-31 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:23 Issue-56?
16:12:23 ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. -- open
16:12:23 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
16:12:24 Title: ISSUE-56 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:29 Issue-80?
16:12:29 ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
16:12:29 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
16:12:31 Title: ISSUE-80 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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16:12:36 issue-85?
16:12:36 ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- open
16:12:36 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
16:12:37 Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:42 issue-100?
16:12:42 ISSUE-100 -- Remove the srcdoc attribute from the HTML5 specification -- open
16:12:42 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/100
16:12:43 Title: ISSUE-100 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:13:02 Laura updated 31, Adam will update 56
16:13:10 Adam Barth responded on issue-56, saying he would update it in time
16:13:16 It appears that the 85 item is abandoned.
16:13:22 On issue-85, steve f said it was abandoned
16:13:25 Zakim, call Mike
16:13:25 ok, MikeSmithX; the call is being made
16:13:27 +Mike
16:13:35 These revisions are due on Jul 15.
16:14:04 Topic: Issues ready for survey processing
16:14:09 Topic: upcoming surveys
16:14:32 We will consider starting surveys on Issue 4 and 84.
16:14:33 Surveys likely coming soon on ISSUE-4 and ISSUE-84
16:14:56 Julian pointed out that Larry is on holiday
16:15:09 Other surveys are for 101 and 103
16:15:12 others under consideration: 101, 103
16:15:13 issue-4?
16:15:13 ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- open
16:15:13 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
16:15:14 Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:15:16 Issue-101?
16:15:16 ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- open
16:15:16 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
16:15:18 Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:15:21 issue-103?
16:15:21 ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open
16:15:21 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103
16:15:21 q+
16:15:22 Title: ISSUE-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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16:15:36 ack Julian
16:15:37 ack Julian
16:16:00 Julian: I wanted to know if the issue 100 might make issue 103 moot
16:16:00 The outcome of issue-103 depends on issue-100.
16:16:47 paulc: so your advice is to make 103 dependent on first processing 100
16:16:50 Julian: yes
16:16:55 Julian: it might save some time to hold issue-103 until we dispose of issue-100.
16:17:08 topic: linked issues
16:17:09 paulc: any other comments?
16:17:15 topic: Linked issues
16:17:28 paulc: we had a call for consensus on issue 105
16:17:46 paulc: as a result of follow-on discussion, we realized issues 74 and 105 need to be treated together
16:17:56 paulc: both extended to a common date of July 30th
16:18:04 issue-74?
16:18:04 ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for