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11:43:11 <Steph> rrsagent, make log public
11:43:18 <Steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
11:43:19 <Zakim> ok, Steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
11:43:39 <Steph> Meeting: MW4D bi-monthly call
11:44:15 <Steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Jun/0012.html
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11:59:03 <Steph> zakim, code ?
11:59:03 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steph
11:59:06 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
11:59:13 <Zakim> +??P1
11:59:27 <Zakim> +??P2
11:59:36 <Steph> zakim, ??P2 is me
11:59:36 <Zakim> +Steph; got it
11:59:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
11:59:59 <Steph> zakim, ??P1 is Stephanie
11:59:59 <Zakim> +Stephanie; got it
12:00:18 <Steph> Present: Max, StephanieR, Steph
12:00:27 <maxf2> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
12:00:27 <Zakim> +maxf2; got it
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12:00:34 <Zakim> + +1.858.816.aaaa
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12:01:07 <Steph> zakim, aaaa is Christiane 
12:01:07 <Zakim> +Christiane; got it
12:01:13 <maxf> zakim, who's here?
12:01:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Stephanie, Steph, maxf2, Christiane
12:01:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see shwetank, betty, maxf, stephanierieger, THIOUNE, raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steph, chrisscharff
12:01:19 <Steph> PResent+Christiane
12:01:29 <maxf> Present+ Max_Froumentin
12:01:40 <Steph> you were in max already !
12:01:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
12:02:02 <maxf> always confuses me
12:02:54 <Steph> zakim, +[IPcaller] is Shwetank
12:02:54 <Zakim> sorry, Steph, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
12:03:01 <Steph> zakim, [IPcaller] is Shwetank
12:03:01 <Zakim> +Shwetank; got it
12:03:11 <Steph> PResent+Shwetank
12:03:54 <nicolas> nicolas has joined #mw4d
12:04:10 <Steph> For those on irc who didn't join yet, we are about to start
12:04:14 <Steph> Hi Nicolas
12:04:40 <betty> Sorry Stephane, I can't enter the conference code. Is it 6493?
12:04:46 <Steph> hi Betty 
12:04:46 <nicolas> hi stepahne trying to connect over the phone as well
12:04:47 <Steph> yes
12:04:50 <raphael> I'm facing difficulties with the phone system. is the conf code still 6493?
12:05:02 <Steph> what is the issue ?
12:05:03 <nicolas> same here
12:05:07 <Steph> 6493 is the right code
12:05:18 <raphael> weird
12:05:20 <Steph> what does the message say ?
12:05:50 <Steph> ah i believe that uk and french number are broken
12:05:51 <raphael> the system doesn't seem to "read" the code
12:06:01 <raphael> ok
12:06:03 <Steph> this is the issue with code entering
12:06:13 <raphael> will try another one
12:06:28 <Steph> use the us number
12:06:41 <Zakim> + +22730aabb
12:06:45 <raphael> now OK
12:07:00 <Steph> zakim, aabb is Raphael
12:07:00 <Zakim> +Raphael; got it
12:07:16 <raphael> the US number works
12:07:18 <Zakim> + +31.62.247.aacc
12:07:26 <Steph> zakim, aacc is Nicolas
12:07:26 <Zakim> +Nicolas; got it
12:08:05 <Steph> zakim, who is here ?
12:08:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Stephanie, Steph, maxf2, Christiane, Shwetank, Raphael, Nicolas
12:08:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see nicolas, shwetank, betty, maxf, stephanierieger, THIOUNE, raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steph, chrisscharff
12:08:36 <betty> Unfortunately I can't make international call from this site of Soton univ campus.
12:09:18 <raphael> OK to help to scribe ;)
12:09:36 <raphael> OK
12:09:41 <raphael> but need help ;)
12:09:47 <Steph> scribe: raphael
12:10:01 <Steph> Topic: introduction
12:10:46 <raphael> Steph: intros himself
12:11:11 <raphael> Steph: Ken can't join today
12:11:44 <raphael> Max. Web Foundation employee
12:12:28 <Steph> Raphael Dard: international trade center, enrteprise competitiveness, drinving tradeathand
12:12:45 <Steph> market prices, etc
12:13:15 <raphael> Nicolas runs a group on ICT4D
12:13:24 <raphael> focus on BoP
12:13:25 <Steph> base of the pyramid
12:13:38 <Steph> Stephanie Rieger (uk) user experience designer
12:13:58 <raphael> focus on mobile and mobile web
12:14:31 <raphael> Ms. Sharff: works on a project called mobile Senegal
12:15:00 <Steph> s/sharff/Schwarff/
12:15:02 <raphael> Shwetank: works at Opera softwares
12:15:16 <Steph> s/Schwarff/Scharff/
12:15:27 <Zakim> + +22177379aadd
12:15:57 <Steph> zakim, aadd is Thioune
12:15:57 <Zakim> +Thioune; got it
12:16:19 <raphael> Thioune: from Senegal, working in Univ
12:16:35 <Steph> Topic: Logistics
12:17:26 <raphael> Steph: how often would you like to "meet"
12:17:29 <raphael> ?
12:17:49 <raphael> Steph: what about the timing?
12:18:06 <raphael> raphael: OK with me.
12:18:21 <raphael> twice a month, maybe better
12:18:46 <chrisscharff> scharff
12:19:21 <raphael> Steph: first and third week of the month
12:19:39 <raphael> I have seen "monthly" on the website
12:19:50 <raphael> Action: update the website
12:20:08 <Steph> Action: tephane to update website and check with mailing-list
12:20:16 <Steph> Action: Stephane to update website and check with mailing-list
12:20:18 <Zakim> -Christiane
12:20:25 <Steph> rrsagent, drop action 1
12:20:27 <Steph> rrsagent, drop action 2
12:20:41 <Steph> Topic: MW4D IG OVerview
12:21:20 <raphael> Steph: gives an overview of the group
12:23:33 <raphael> Steph: issue: lack of locally relevant content
12:23:53 <raphael> Steph: seeking solutions to address this issue
12:24:26 <raphael> Steph: the group worked on this 15 months
12:24:58 <Zakim> + +1.915.201.aaee
12:24:58 <raphael> which resulted in a roadmap http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-mw4d-roadmap-20091208/
12:25:17 <Steph> zakim, aaee is christiane
12:25:17 <Zakim> +christiane; got it
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12:25:49 <Steph> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-mw4d-roadmap-20091208/
12:25:58 <raphael> people, do help typing in!
12:26:45 <raphael> Steph: with the new group, we can work on issues underlined in the roadmap
12:26:54 <Steph> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/MW4Dcharter2.1.html
12:27:18 <raphael> Steph: do read this charter
12:28:24 <raphael> moving from a general point of view to a more specific approach
12:28:55 <raphael> 2nd theme: Tools
12:29:35 <raphael> Steph: there is still a need to collect info on existing tools
12:29:59 <raphael> Steph: we can work at building a repository which includes tool evaluations
12:30:18 <raphael> 3rd domain: Business Models
12:30:51 <raphael> Steph: sustainability is the aim, buiness models are the mens
12:30:55 <raphael> means
12:31:14 <raphael> 4th domain: impact analysis
12:31:53 <Steph> adoption methods
12:31:57 <raphael> OK
12:32:10 <Zakim> -Thioune
12:32:11 <raphael> reading http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D
12:32:13 <raphael> sorry
12:33:36 <raphael> Steph: 5th domain: adoption factors. A still very limited area which needs further research
12:33:51 <raphael> Steph, can't hear you anymore...
12:34:02 <Steph> can you hear me ?
12:34:11 <stephanierieger> can't hear either
12:34:12 <Steph> recalling
12:34:13 <Zakim> -Steph
12:34:16 <nicolas> ok it is not my cell then I was about to ask
12:34:34 <Zakim> +??P2
12:34:40 <raphael> OK
12:34:46 <Steph> zakim, P2 is steph
12:34:46 <Zakim> sorry, Steph, I do not recognize a party named 'P2'
12:35:47 <raphael> q+
12:35:54 <Steph> ack raphael
12:36:52 <Steph> clearer ways of engagement would be useful
12:37:04 <Steph> will achieve more things and will come with more people
12:38:14 <nicolas> dead line and sub-group of people
12:38:53 <Steph> focus on specific area
12:40:16 <chrisscharff> what is the url of the wiki?
12:40:31 <Steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/
12:41:38 <raphael> q+
12:41:48 <Steph> ack raphael
12:42:29 <shwetank> me is from India (also a devoloping country)
12:43:22 <Steph> raphael: use teleconf time to talk about a specific project ?
12:43:28 <Zakim> -Raphael
12:43:34 <Steph> collaborative intelligence
12:43:38 <raphael> got hung up
12:43:41 <Steph> we loste u Rapahel
12:43:43 <raphael> calling back
12:43:46 <raphael> please go on
12:44:36 <Zakim> + +41.22.730.aaff
12:45:10 <raphael> maybe we can use the collective intelligence we group here
12:45:34 <raphael> to discuss about an existing project and give advices
12:45:47 <raphael> share challenges
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12:46:35 <ingom> hello
12:46:37 <raphael> Nicolas: yes, as long as it is linked with one of our topics
12:46:42 <raphael> (5)
12:47:13 <raphael> q+
12:48:32 <Steph> stephane: focus on the specific points we are interested in
12:48:40 <Steph> raphael: give advices to projects
12:48:41 <ingom> there was a power cut my battery will discharge sorry
12:48:56 <Steph> and be ack for that 
12:49:26 <Steph> Topic: Work organization and task repartition
12:49:44 <raphael> raphael: if the group regularly gives inputs for one project, credit could be also given to the group "formally", when the project ends
12:50:27 <raphael> Steph: suggestion to have different discussion drivers
12:50:36 <raphael> in different calls
12:51:00 <raphael> Steph: are there other interests from group members?
12:51:45 <raphael> Steph: two particular aspects of interest to Web Foundation
12:51:51 <raphael> Agriculture is one
12:52:25 <raphael> through a project being conducted currently
12:52:46 <raphael> the other topic in in Ghana, on a mobile training lab
12:53:00 <raphael> to develop apps and services
12:53:32 <raphael> the idea is to give support on how to reach users and develop sustainable business models
12:54:12 <raphael> Nicolas: the focus is on business modeling and adoption methodology
12:54:20 <raphael> in the ICD4D space
12:55:13 <raphael> shwetank: business modeling in mobile area
12:55:21 <raphael> and impact analysis
12:56:04 <Steph> Raphael: project in Benin
12:56:09 <maxf> raphael: working on a project in Benin
12:56:14 <Steph> pineapple export chain
12:57:04 <maxf> raphael: we'll see if it's (?) something which is new or if it is already part of the supply chain
12:57:11 <raphael> happy to update the group on how it goes
12:57:22 <raphael> since we are still at the inception phase
12:58:05 <raphael> Steph: on the use of the wiki
12:58:24 <raphael> we can use this place to gather literature for these different areas
12:59:08 <raphael> feel free to share papers and links on the mailing list
13:00:15 <raphael> Action: add two wiki pages on the missing areas
13:00:30 <Steph> (when you do aciton please put the name of the action owner)
13:00:53 <Steph> july 19
13:01:02 <shwetank> fine with me
13:01:04 <maxf> [works for me]
13:01:12 <chrisscharff> fine
13:01:18 <Steph> Resolution: next meeting: July 19 
13:01:31 <betty> OK. Hopefully the UK no will be OK on July 19.
13:01:48 <raphael> I'll try to join from Benin
13:01:56 <raphael> Thank you
13:02:02 <Zakim> - +41.22.730.aaff
13:02:03 <Zakim> -??P2
13:02:03 <Zakim> -Nicolas
13:02:04 <Zakim> -christiane
13:02:04 <Zakim> -Shwetank
13:02:05 <Zakim> -maxf2
13:02:07 <Zakim> -Stephanie
13:02:08 <Steph> rrsagent, make minutes
13:02:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/05-mw4d-minutes.html Steph
13:02:09 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
13:02:11 <Zakim> Attendees were Steph, Stephanie, maxf2, +1.858.816.aaaa, Christiane, Shwetank, +22730aabb, Raphael, +31.62.247.aacc, Nicolas, +22177379aadd, Thioune, +1.915.201.aaee,
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