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09:20:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
09:20:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start 20 minutes ago
09:20:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
09:20:44 <trackbot> Date: 30 June 2010
09:20:47 <raphael> zakim, code?
09:20:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 3724 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), raphael
09:21:34 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started
09:21:41 <Zakim> +raphael
09:21:41 <raphael> Chair: Raphael
09:21:50 <raphael> Regrets: Davy,Erik
09:21:52 <Zakim> +Jack_Jansen
09:22:04 <raphael> Present: Raphael, Jack
09:22:47 <jackjansen> any else calling in?
09:23:47 <raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jun/0081.html
09:24:01 <raphael> scribe: raphael
09:24:04 <raphael> scribenick: raphael
09:24:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
09:24:23 <Zakim> + +61.2.801.2.aaaa
09:25:41 <silvia> scribe: silvia
09:26:11 <silvia> raphael wants to have at least an informal chat
09:26:23 <raphael> scribenick: silvia
09:26:46 <silvia> … informed us that his student has some good slides and made a good demo on media frag, which he will publish after the phone conf
09:28:13 <silvia> raphael: can we discuss philip's issues
09:28:44 <silvia> status: Yves reckons escaped characters are only allowed in specific places
09:29:05 <silvia> silvia: but I am not sure that applies to fragment name-value pairs
09:29:14 <silvia> jack: if it is in the URI spec, we need to point to it
09:29:42 <silvia> action: jack to investigate how escaping is defined in uri spec
09:29:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-181 - Investigate how escaping is defined in uri spec [on Jack Jansen - due 2010-07-07].
09:30:09 <raphael> ACTION-180?
09:30:09 <trackbot> ACTION-180 -- Davy Van Deursen to add the WebM codec into our fitting table -- due 2010-06-30 -- OPEN
09:30:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/180
09:30:18 <silvia> raphael: wants to discuss a number of things
09:30:31 <silvia> start with action-180
09:30:48 <raphael> close ACTION-180
09:30:48 <trackbot> ACTION-180 Add the WebM codec into our fitting table closed
09:31:20 <raphael> Silvia: I agree to remove "conditionnaly fit" from the table since we are not dealing with transcoding... this is clear now
09:31:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
09:31:56 <raphael> ACTION-179?
09:31:56 <trackbot> ACTION-179 -- Raphaël Troncy to address RTSP handling, pointing to the wiki page for the processing, making sure the syntax is stated to be generic -- due 2010-06-30 -- OPEN
09:31:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/179
09:32:03 <raphael> close ACTION-179
09:32:03 <trackbot> ACTION-179 Address RTSP handling, pointing to the wiki page for the processing, making sure the syntax is stated to be generic closed
09:33:33 <raphael> Silvia: I don't think the wiki page is good, I would prefer to point to the email thread starting by Jack
09:33:35 <silvia> specification is published with a link to the RTSP wiki page
09:34:01 <silvia> silvia: problem with the wiki page is that the spec for implementers isn't really complete, but the email thread is more useful
09:34:19 <silvia> jack: I thought we were going to point to a proper document, not a wiki page
09:34:38 <silvia> raphael: shall we incorporate the email summary in the wiki or start a new document?
09:36:11 <silvia> silvia: if we can get the rtsp part back into the spec, I would prefer this - and then keep it in the wiki
09:36:35 <silvia> raphael: such a massive change may require another last call WD
09:36:47 <silvia> .. it will stop us from going to CR
09:37:20 <silvia> … we can take that decision at the end of august
09:37:39 <silvia> jack: if we add this as normative text, it would require LC WD
09:38:10 <silvia> … but if we just add it as informative text, e.g. in an appendix, then it may be possible to move to CR without another LC WD
09:38:42 <silvia> raphael: suggests to continue making changes in wiki, so we keep all possibilities open still
09:39:11 <raphael> Good summary: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jun/0080.html
09:39:19 <silvia> action: silvia to include summary into wiki page
09:39:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Include summary into wiki page [on Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2010-07-07].
09:39:43 <silvia> raphael: AOB?
09:39:50 <silvia> jack: planning summer
09:40:04 <silvia> raphael: have teleconf next week, and then decide what to do in July/August
09:40:24 <silvia> action: raphael to write to mailing list about teleconf in summer
09:40:24 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - raphael
09:41:20 <Zakim> -raphael
09:41:22 <raphael> [adjourned]
09:41:22 <Zakim> -Jack_Jansen
09:41:22 <Zakim> - +61.2.801.2.aaaa
09:41:24 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended
09:41:26 <Zakim> Attendees were raphael, Jack_Jansen, +61.2.801.2.aaaa
09:41:29 <silvia> bye!
09:41:37 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minues', raphael.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
09:41:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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09:42:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
09:42:40 <raphael> Present+ silvia
09:43:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
09:44:14 <raphael> zakim, bye
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09:44:18 <raphael> RRSAgent, bye
09:44:18 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
09:44:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jack to investigate how escaping is defined in uri spec [1]
09:44:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-irc#T09-29-42
09:44:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: silvia to include summary into wiki page [2]
09:44:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-irc#T09-39-19
09:44:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: raphael to write to mailing list about teleconf in summer [3]
09:44:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/30-mediafrag-irc#T09-40-24