IRC log of soap-jms on 2010-06-29
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be SJMS
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- ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
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- Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 29 June 2010
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- mphillip has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jun/0035.html (mphillip)
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jun/0035.html
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- Regrets: Peter, Phil
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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- zakim, aacc is Mark
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- +Mark; got it
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- Topic: ) Appointment of the scribe
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- Scribe: Mark
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- Chair: Eric
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- TOPIC: 2) Approval of prior meeting minutes
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- Minutes are approved without modification#
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- TOPIC: 3) Review the agenda
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- Agenda approved
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- TOPIC: 4) Review action items
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/146 - Eric
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- ..will follow up with Oracle
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/177 - Peter - no status
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/179 - Eric - spec now points at latest draft
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- close action-179
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- ACTION-179 Update URI editors spec to reflect latest URI scheme URL closed
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/180 - Eric - new issue (40) raised
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- close action-180
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- ACTION-180 Raise issue for use of "m:MaxTime" XML in SOAP 1.2 example from section 2.8 closed
- 16:09:20 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/181 - Eric - pending namespace discussion
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/182 - Mark - proposal submitted
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- close action-182
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- ACTION-182 Check how much of the binding spec. needs to change and make a proposal closed
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/183 - Eric - still pending
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- TOPIC: 5) Namespace discussion
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jun/0028.html
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- Eric: We do not have a stable namespace URL
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- Yves: We might want to keep the namespace from the working draft if there have been no significant changes, but if there are changes from the WD then suggest we use the "ns" version of the namespace - see http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri
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- Eric: Two places where the namespace is used - to define the protocol, and to namespace the WSDL elements
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- Eric: Should these be kept the same?
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- Can't see a reason why we shouldn't keep these the same
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- Eric: The date has the advantage of showing when the spec was finalised
- 16:16:37 [Yves]
- can be http://www.w3.org/YYYY/ssss if you want to keep the date aspect
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- Eric: So we would establish a new namespace of http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms
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- Yves: Implementations, tests, and test reports would need to reflect this
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- Yves: Could publish a new CR to signal to implementors that the namespace has changed
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- Yves: (going back to CR is ok unless changes are significant enough to go back to Last Call)
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- Yves: CR process lasts for 6 weeks
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- Amy: So this shouldn't push out the target PR date
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- Eric: If we do an additional CR then we could fix the broken link to point to the new value?
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- Yves: Yes
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- RESOLUTION: No objections to moving through CR again
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- action: mark to change the namespace to http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms
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- Created ACTION-185 - Change the namespace to http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-07-06].
- 16:26:48 [mphillip]
- action: Eric to review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits
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- Created ACTION-186 - Review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-06].
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- action: Derek to review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits
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- Created ACTION-187 - Review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits [on Derek Rokicki - due 2010-07-06].
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- TOPIC: 6) Raised spec issues:
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/40
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- Eric: Essentially a bug in the fault example - no namespace declared for the 'm:' prefix
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- No objections to opening issue 40
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- RESOLUTION: Open issue 40
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- TOPIC: 7) Accepting proposals to close open issues
- 16:29:29 [eric]
- http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#jmsuri
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/27 - leaving open until the URI scheme is finalised
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- Eric: Also need to change the date in the spec. - will re-open this action item
- 16:31:36 [eric]
- ISSUE-39: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jun/0027.html
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- ISSUE-39 Please don't rely on JMSMessageID for Protocol 2038 notes added
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/39 - Mark
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- Mark: Spec needs to change in 3 places per email linked above
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- No objections to accepting proposal
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/40
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- Eric: Suggest we remove the detail element
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- http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html#SOAP12FaultPayload
- 16:37:24 [mphillip]
- No objections to accepting proposed resolution to issue 40
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- action: mark to apply the resolution to issue 39
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- Created ACTION-188 - Apply the resolution to issue 39 [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-07-06].
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- action: Eric to apply resolution for issue 40
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- Created ACTION-189 - Apply resolution for issue 40 [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-06].
- 16:39:09 [mphillip]
- action: Eric to review the test cases once the changes for issue 39 have been applied
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- Created ACTION-190 - Review the test cases once the changes for issue 39 have been applied [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-06].
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- TOPIC: 8) Accepting applied resolutions:
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- Nothing to review
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- TOPIC: 9) Moving to PR
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- We will go through another CR, this should not affect overall schedule
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- No update on conforming implementations
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- TOPIC: 10) Misc:
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- Eric: No news from IETF
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- Eric: But Glen Daniels has offered to be an independent reviewer
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- Eric: SO his name has been sent to IETF
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- TOPIC: 11) AOB?
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- None
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- -Mark
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html Yves
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- -Yves
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- Attendees were +1.708.246.aaaa, +1.919.663.aabb, +44.196.287.aacc, alewis, Mark, +1.617.324.aadd, Yves, +1.209.474.aaee
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