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10:57:30 <fsasaki> meeting: MAWG
10:57:35 <fsasaki> chair: joakim
10:57:39 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Jun/0138.html
10:57:54 <fsasaki> regrets: John
10:59:40 <tobias> are the European bridges working again?
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11:00:14 <Zakim> + +329331aaaa
11:00:52 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aabb
11:01:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
11:01:21 <Zakim> +wbailer
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11:01:54 <Zakim> +florian
11:03:14 <Zakim> + +43.662.228.aacc
11:03:23 <tobias> Zakim, aacc is me
11:03:23 <Zakim> +tobias; got it
11:08:29 <Zakim> -Felix
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11:09:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
11:11:19 <fsasaki> topic: namespace decision
11:11:28 <tobias> Zakim, mutem
11:11:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mutem', tobias
11:11:34 <tobias>  Zakim, mute me
11:11:34 <Zakim> tobias should now be muted
11:11:42 <fsasaki> raphael: on the mailling list many people want to have namespace with "#"
11:11:56 <raphael> hash option would mean: http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#
11:12:04 <fsasaki> .. want to know whether we can switch the current version to "#"
11:12:07 <wbailer> +1 for #
11:12:11 <raphael> +1 for H
11:12:13 <fsasaki> + felix
11:12:16 <tobias> +1 for #
11:12:16 <raphael> s/H/#
11:12:50 <fsasaki> felix: anybody against the solution with "#"?
11:12:53 <fsasaki> no objection
11:13:13 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: people at the call for http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont# as the namespace
11:13:50 <fsasaki> action: Raphael to announce the namespace decision http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont# on the list
11:13:50 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Raphael
11:14:24 <fsasaki> raphael describing data sets using the media annotation ontology
11:14:46 <tobias> Zakim, unmute me
11:14:46 <Zakim> tobias should no longer be muted
11:14:54 <fsasaki> data set has been accepted for triplefication challenge this year
11:15:08 <fsasaki> tobias: sounds great, which ontology did you use?
11:15:31 <fsasaki> raphael: tried to look at your and jp-version
11:15:45 <fsasaki> .. will write to the mailing list with comments on the current version of the ontology
11:16:11 <fsasaki> tobias: met jean-pieere last week and discussed changes, will discuss that with you
11:16:33 <fsasaki> raphael: disagree with "modeling as class" paradigm
11:16:51 <fsasaki> .. adding more classes has more costs than adding more properties because you need to change the signature of properties
11:16:56 <fsasaki> .. that is why I disagree
11:17:50 <fsasaki> topic: f2f meeting
11:18:09 <raphael> A huge dataset of 30 million triples of flickr photos descriptions and youtube videos descriptions according to the Media Ontology is available at http://www.eurecom.fr/~troncy/ldtc2010/
11:18:12 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Jun/0137.html
11:18:27 <fsasaki> "So, we would like to fix the date (September 8-10) for the next F2F based on the results of poll."
11:18:49 <fsasaki> felix: september 8-10 fine with everybody?
11:18:56 <raphael> I will make the f2f at these dates
11:18:59 <tobias> sounds good for me
11:19:08 <wbailer> for me too
11:19:15 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: f2f dates September 8-10 agreed
11:19:18 <wonsuk> good to me.
11:20:00 <tobias> Zakim, mute me
11:20:00 <Zakim> tobias should now be muted
11:20:09 <fsasaki> topic: LC comments
11:20:29 <fsasaki> raphael: July 11th is deadline for LC - should we extend the date for feedback?
11:20:37 <florian> +1
11:20:41 <fsasaki> .. until the end of the summer
11:20:43 <fsasaki> +1
11:20:44 <wonsuk> +1
11:20:47 <raphael> I would suggest extend to the end of the summer to get more feedback
11:20:48 <raphael> +1
11:20:54 <tobias> yes, this sounds like a good idea given that we will most probably have no calls during summer; so +1
11:21:25 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: extend the LC period until the end of August
11:21:41 <fsasaki> raphael: media fragments has 25th of August as the end date for LC
11:21:57 <fsasaki> topic: media fragments spec
11:22:09 <fsasaki> raphael: document is in LC until the end of August
11:22:19 <fsasaki> .. have requested feedback from groups, including mawg
11:22:30 <fsasaki> .. would appreciate a review from the group
11:22:41 <fsasaki> .. any volunteer to make a review on behalf of mawg?
11:23:02 <tobias> Zakim, unmute me
11:23:02 <Zakim> tobias should no longer be muted
11:23:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html raphael
11:23:13 <fsasaki> tobias: I can make a review
11:23:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html raphael
11:23:28 <fsasaki> action: Tobias to make a review of media fragments LC doc
11:23:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-265 - Make a review of media fragments LC doc [on Tobias Bürger - due 2010-07-06].
11:23:50 <fsasaki> raphael: need this until the end of August
11:23:56 <fsasaki> tobias: fine by me
11:24:33 <fsasaki> action: thierry to make change of the namespace document, with the "#" URI
11:24:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-266 - Make change of the namespace document, with the "#" URI [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-07-06].
11:24:40 <fsasaki> above action is for the record
11:24:51 <fsasaki> topic: review from media fragments wg
11:25:05 <fsasaki> raphael: fragments folks will make individual comments on mawg LC
11:25:17 <fsasaki> .. you will also get one official review on behalf of the group
11:25:52 <fsasaki> topic: call schedule
11:26:08 <tobias> Zakim, mute me
11:26:08 <Zakim> tobias should now be muted
11:26:14 <fsasaki> chris: is there an official summer break for W3C?
11:26:17 <fsasaki> raphael: no
11:26:22 <fsasaki> chris: will there be a call next week?
11:26:30 <fsasaki> felix: depends on our chairs, but would be good
11:26:47 <fsasaki> action: Joakim to organize a call asap, e.g. next week
11:26:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-267 - Organize a call asap, e.g. next week [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2010-07-06].
11:27:17 <fsasaki> s/to organize /to organize with Daniel /
11:27:34 <tobias> Zakim, unmute me
11:27:34 <Zakim> tobias should no longer be muted
11:27:37 <tobias> bye
11:27:38 <Zakim> -florian
11:27:40 <Zakim> -wbailer
11:27:41 <Zakim> -tobias
11:27:42 <Zakim> -chris
11:27:42 <Zakim> -raphael
11:27:44 <Zakim> -Felix
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11:27:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
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11:28:23 <Zakim> Attendees were wonsuk, +329331aaaa, +33.4.93.00.aabb, raphael, [IPcaller], Felix, wbailer, florian, +43.662.228.aacc, tobias, chris
11:29:02 <fsasaki> present: raphael, Felix, wbailer, florian, tobias, chris, wonsuk
11:29:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
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