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15:04:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM scheduled to start 4 minutes ago
15:04:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference
15:04:25 <trackbot> Date: 25 June 2010
15:04:31 <YolandaGil> Zakim, this will be inc_provxg
15:04:31 <Zakim> ok, YolandaGil, I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM already started
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15:04:46 <YolandaGil> chair: Yolanda Gil
15:05:16 <YolandaGil> Scribe: Luc
15:05:45 <Luc> RDF workshop update: coming this WE
15:06:02 <Luc> Provenance and RDF position paper to be presented there
15:07:01 <Luc> Olaf reported on call about provenance vocabulary mapping.
15:07:15 <Luc> Only satya and olaf attended, so they decided to postpone it to next week.
15:07:48 <Luc> Olaf had drafted a table to justify the mapping of Prov. Voc to OPM.
15:07:48 <paolo> Olaf can you please post the link again, thank you
15:07:53 <YolandaGil> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Provenance_Vocabulary_Mappings#Provenance_Vocabulary
15:08:05 <Luc> Everybody else responsible for a mapping to follow the template.
15:08:06 <paolo> thanks
15:08:53 <Luc> Target was to produce 3 mappings per week.
15:09:04 <Luc> q+
15:11:05 <olaf> q+
15:11:14 <Luc> Comments to be added as notes, at the bottom the table.
15:12:20 <olaf> q-
15:12:22 <Luc> or as a comment on that page.
15:12:53 <Luc> q-
15:13:19 <Luc> Next item is update on scenarios.
15:13:28 <YolandaGil> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_News_Aggregator_Scenario
15:13:43 <Luc> q+
15:14:41 <Luc> After IPAW, there was a session where examples were added to technical requirements.
15:15:48 <YolandaGil> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_Disease_Outbreak_Scenario
15:15:50 <Luc> That's substantial work: lots of requiremetns, lots examples and sometimes need to change/refine/rephrase requirements.
15:17:13 <Luc> Yolanda: be strategic in populating requirements with examples
15:17:18 <Luc> q-
15:18:05 <YolandaGil> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_Business_Contract_Scenario
15:18:51 <Luc> Simon and Jim M started defining requirements for Business Contract Scenario.
15:19:36 <Luc> Yolanda: nice template for Relevant State of the Art 
15:20:08 <Luc> Yolanda: concerned with progress, given European ;-) holidays coming
15:20:34 <YolandaGil> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Related_Work_Across_Scenarios
15:20:44 <Luc> Yolanda: start mapping related work to requirements
15:24:06 <Luc> Yolanda: some sections/UC still need to be filled with pointers to related work
15:24:34 <Luc> Yolanda: not redo the work done in surveys
15:25:15 <paolo> quite impressive for spare time activity!
15:26:26 <Luc> Yolanda: there is a lot to cite. What is the best approach to doing this?
15:27:30 <Jose_> there is a lot of noise in the line :-(
15:27:38 <Luc> I can't hear anything here.  Is it the same for others?
15:27:43 <Yogesh> Yes
15:27:47 <Jose_> yes
15:27:54 <paolo> q+
15:28:07 <Luc> q+
15:30:09 <Luc> q-
15:31:26 <Luc> Paolo: use mendalay, tags, and offer searching capabilities "what should I cite?"
15:31:52 <Luc> q+
15:32:05 <paolo> q
15:32:07 <paolo> q-
15:32:50 <paolo> q+
15:42:19 <Luc> Paolo: community curation 
15:42:30 <Luc> Yolanda: distributed process
15:43:55 <Luc> Yolanda: for a given requirement tag, identify how publications  help address problems
15:46:04 <olaf> q+
15:47:02 <paolo> yes that's the hope...
15:47:59 <paolo> +1
15:48:26 <paolo> for a vocab based on the explicit classification that has already been occurring
15:49:22 <Irini> +1 for the vocabulary assisted tagging
15:50:00 <Luc> Michaelp: Indexing quality improved if users can choose from a controlled vocabulary of tags.
15:50:47 <Jose_> +1 to controlled vocabulary tags, but where should therestricted set of tags be generated from?
15:50:52 <Luc> Michaelp: zotero is good model
15:51:52 <Luc> Olaf: use use cases to index publications 
15:52:22 <michaelp> This what I meant as one source of tagging vacabulary.
15:52:37 <Luc> Olaf: use user requirements to index publications
15:52:42 <michaelp> s/vacabulary/vocabulary/
15:53:05 <paolo> same here -- agree with Michael + Olaf
15:53:36 <Luc> Irini: 2D vocabulary on technical requirements and technical solutions 
15:54:54 <michaelp> In thesaurus construction, (two) dimension would be expressed as facets.
15:55:17 <michaelp> For two dimensions, most likely as main heading and subdivision.
15:55:36 <Luc> Jose: enrich vocabularies with user-defined tags
15:56:46 <Luc> Simon: annotate bibliography with related work
15:57:39 <Luc> Yogesh: tags to be user-friendly
15:59:20 <Luc> Yolanda: James said he wanted to be able to see work in a given area.
16:00:11 <Luc> Yolanda: let's try this, and review it in 2-3 weeks. If it doesn't work, we'll have to consider plan B
16:00:30 <paolo> yep
16:00:34 <Jose_> yes
16:00:37 <michaelp> yes
16:00:41 <Dgarijo> yes
16:01:28 <Luc> Yolanda:  page to be created, with iniital set of tags, so that we can start tagging (tag fest!)
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16:02:24 <YolandaGil> rrsagent, set log public
16:02:34 <YolandaGil> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:02:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/25-prov-xg-minutes.html YolandaGil
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16:04:20 <Zakim> INC_PROVXG()11:00AM has ended
16:04:21 <Zakim> Attendees were +34.91.334.aaaa, [IPcaller], +1.540.449.aabb, krp, Yolanda, +49.302.093.aacc, +30281039aadd, michaelp
16:05:46 <YolandaGil> trackbot, end telcon
16:05:46 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:05:46 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:05:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:05:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/25-prov-xg-minutes.html trackbot
16:05:48 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:05:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items