19:55:17 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:55:17 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc 19:55:19 RRSAgent, make logs public 19:55:19 Zakim has joined #wai-wcag 19:55:21 Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 19:55:21 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 19:55:22 Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 19:55:22 Date: 24 June 2010 19:58:33 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2010AprJun/0066.html 19:58:43 regrets: Andrew_LaHart, Marc_Johlic 19:59:30 WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started 19:59:37 + +1.650.214.aaaa 19:59:41 +Michael_Cooper 20:00:05 zakim, aaaa is Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:00:05 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it 20:00:20 +Andrew_Kirkpatrick 20:00:59 +David_MacDonald 20:01:21 +[Oracle] 20:01:27 jamesn has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:32 +Bruce_Bailey 20:01:47 zakim, Oracle has James_Nurthen 20:01:47 +James_Nurthen; got it 20:03:36 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:37 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:04:53 + +1.425.822.aabb 20:05:08 AWK has joined #wai-wcag 20:05:25 zakim, +1.425.822.aabb is sofia_celic 20:05:25 +sofia_celic; got it 20:05:57 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 20:07:14 Ben has joined #wai-wcag 20:07:41 +??P7 20:07:48 zakim, ??P7 is Ben_Caldwell 20:07:48 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 20:11:29 topic: Media Access Requirements 20:11:45 -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements HTML A11Y TF wiki developing media accessibility requirements 20:13:18 http://www.eramp.com/david/Media.html 20:17:09 topic: Survey for this week 20:17:12 Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG 20:17:23 -> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20100624misc/results Survey for 24 June 2010 20:17:25 scribe: AWK 20:22:44 TOPIC: Issue 2681: HTML Headings technique: duplicated 20:32:36 The objective of this technique is to use HTML and XHTML heading markup to convey the structure of the content and to use headings to create chunks of information that can be found easily by people with disabilities, such as a blind person using a screen reader, or a person with a cognitive disability who uses assistive technology that delineates groups of information, or someone with a... 20:32:38 ...communication disability or illiteracy, who uses a screen reader to assist them in their reading. 20:32:39 Using headings merely to change the appearance of text does not convey the organization of the content, and may confuse users who use headings to perceive structure or rely on them for navigation. Conversely, while applying bold format, or even "class=heading", can result in the visual display of a heading, assistive technologies will not recognize such text as headings. 20:32:41 It is recommended that headings be presented in a hierarchical structure indicating top level section and subsections (i.e., h2 is a subsection of h1). Hierarchical presentation of heading markup is not always possible or practical for all design layouts and therefore not strictly required. However as a general rule, the most important information should be given the highest logical level,... 20:32:43 ...and subsections should be give subsequent logical levels. 20:34:59 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:35:56 + +1.650.214.aacc 20:36:23 zakim, aacc is Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:36:23 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it 20:39:35 zakim, who is noisy? 20:39:48 jamesn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (24%), Ben_Caldwell (9%) 20:40:09 Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG 20:40:39 ACTION: David to propose resolution for H69 20:40:39 Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David 20:40:39 Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dmacdona, dtodd2) 20:41:25 ACTION: DMacdona to propose resolution for H69 20:41:25 Created ACTION-98 - Propose resolution for H69 [on David MacDonald - due 2010-07-01]. 20:42:35 RESOLUTION: Accept 2681 as amended 20:42:53 TOPIC: Issue 2710: How does 2.4.5 apply to this scenario? 20:43:02 RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed 20:43:11 TOPIC: Introduction to Understanding WCAG 2.0 20:51:14 RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended 20:51:32 TOPIC: Advisory Technique for SC 3.2.1, 3.2.5: Opening new windows and tabs only when best from an accessibility perspective 20:54:32 Giving users advanced warning when opening a new window 20:54:51 ACTION: Dmacdona use example 4 to write up 'giving users advanced warning when opening a new window' 20:54:53 Created ACTION-99 - Use example 4 to write up 'giving users advanced warning when opening a new window' [on David MacDonald - due 2010-07-01]. 20:56:01 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2010/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20100617/G200 20:58:03 RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique in favor of modification of G200 20:59:16 + +1.608.514.aadd 20:59:19 s/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique in favor of modification of G200/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique 20:59:41 s/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique in favor of modification of G200/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique/ 21:00:03 TOPIC: How to Meet WCAG 2.0 21:07:16 ACTION: Andrew to send How to Meet wish list to Ben. 21:07:16 Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Andrew 21:07:16 Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. akirkpat2, alahart) 21:07:28 ACTION: akirkpat2 to send How to Meet wish list to Ben. 21:07:28 Created ACTION-100 - Send How to Meet wish list to Ben. [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2010-07-01]. 21:08:37 topic: Review of editors drafts 21:08:41 -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/flash Flash techniques 21:14:19 -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/aria ARIA techniques 21:23:46 ACTION: akirkpat2 to send michael rundown of files and what to link to for each technique 21:23:46 Created ACTION-101 - Send michael rundown of files and what to link to for each technique [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2010-07-01]. 21:24:24 -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/agenda Tracker items 21:36:00 -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/participants.html Updated participants list 21:36:15 -sofia_celic 21:36:17 -Andrew_Kirkpatrick 21:37:26 -[Oracle] 21:40:13 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:40:14 -Ben_Caldwell 21:40:16 -Michael_Cooper 21:40:19 - +1.608.514.aadd 21:42:47 Ben has left #wai-wcag 23:08:42 MichaelC has joined #wai-wcag 23:09:12 zakim, list participants 23:09:12 As of this point the attendees have been +1.650.214.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, James_Nurthen, sofia_celic, 23:09:16 ... Ben_Caldwell, +1.650.214.aacc, +1.608.514.aadd 23:11:59 zakim, bye 23:11:59 leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.650.214.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, James_Nurthen, sofia_celic, 23:11:59 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 23:12:01 rrsagent, bye 23:12:01 I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 23:12:01 ACTION: David to propose resolution for H69 [1] 23:12:01 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-40-39 23:12:01 ACTION: DMacdona to propose resolution for H69 [2] 23:12:01 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-41-25 23:12:01 ACTION: Dmacdona use example 4 to write up 'giving users advanced warning when opening a new window' [3] 23:12:01 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-54-51 23:12:01 ACTION: Andrew to send How to Meet wish list to Ben. [4] 23:12:01 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T21-07-16 23:12:01 ACTION: akirkpat2 to send How to Meet wish list to Ben. [5] 23:12:01 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T21-07-28 23:12:01 ACTION: akirkpat2 to send michael rundown of files and what to link to for each technique [6] 23:12:01 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T21-23-46 23:12:03 ... Ben_Caldwell, +1.650.214.aacc, +1.608.514.aadd