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19:54:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
19:54:15 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
19:54:16 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
19:54:16 <trackbot> Date: 22 June 2010
19:54:30 <ChrisL> zakim, room for 8?
19:54:31 <Zakim> ok, ChrisL; conference Team_(svg)19:54Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 2054Z
19:54:52 <ChrisL> zakim, this will be 26631
19:54:52 <Zakim> ok, ChrisL; I see Team_(svg)19:54Z scheduled to start now
19:55:15 <ChrisL> ChrisL has changed the topic to: code today is 26631
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19:58:29 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:58:35 <ed> Zakim, [IP is me
19:58:35 <Zakim> +ed; got it
19:59:21 <Zakim> +ChrisL
19:59:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:59:54 <anthony> Zakim, [IP is me
19:59:54 <Zakim> +anthony; got it
20:00:01 <ChrisL> zakim, +[IPcaller] is anthony
20:00:01 <Zakim> sorry, ChrisL, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
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20:07:12 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/
20:08:02 <ed> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0141.html
20:08:08 <Tav> I actually am on vacation this week so I won't be calling in.
20:08:54 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/disco
20:09:53 <anthony> Scribe: anthony
20:10:07 <anthony> Topic: Tracking comments
20:10:32 <anthony> CL: Whatever we use it should be easy to use
20:10:45 <anthony> AG: I thought we used Tracker for Tiny 1.2
20:11:08 <anthony> CL: Can pull information from Tracker using DisCo
20:11:15 <ChrisL> example http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/112
20:12:03 <anthony> CL: I guess that is ok. As long as people put the issue number in the email
20:12:10 <anthony> ... we should get a complete list of all the comments
20:12:33 <anthony> AG: I think Doug said that in an email when we went to LC for Tiny 1.2
20:12:51 <anthony> ED: Ok, I guess what we'll know what we're doing in July
20:13:02 <anthony> ... we have to address all of the last call comments before taking the next step
20:13:19 <anthony> ... what's the likely hood of that taking place before SVG Open
20:13:34 <anthony> CL: Should be ok. We can't add  new features and if the comments are too complicated
20:13:46 <anthony> ... we probably can consider them for SVG 2.0
20:14:13 <anthony> ED: Sounds like we have the issue tracking thing solved - using Tracker
20:14:29 <anthony> ... we should make a product for 1.1 Full 2nd last call
20:14:36 <anthony> CL: Ok I'll do that now
20:15:38 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/24
20:16:15 <ChrisL> test suite for 1.1 F2 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/3
20:16:20 <anthony> ED: Would be good to have that for PR. Want to have a bit more than what we have for SVG Open
20:16:33 <anthony> ... depending on everyone schedule
20:16:42 <anthony> CL: The useful thing is we have it published
20:16:46 <anthony> ... so there's something to show people
20:17:16 <anthony> ED: That was the reason I put in the announcement we are looking for feedback on the test suite
20:17:27 <anthony> ... I added those PNG tests
20:17:34 <anthony> ... and ran them through Batik
20:17:43 <anthony> ... they didn't produce anything that looked correct
20:17:47 <anthony> ... I wasn't sure
20:17:52 <anthony> ... I checked in the reference images
20:17:55 <ChrisL> ACTION-2799
20:17:58 <ChrisL> ACTION-2799?
20:17:58 <trackbot> ACTION-2799 -- Erik Dahlström to review the png tests and generate reference images -- due 2010-06-24 -- OPEN
20:17:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2799
20:18:02 <anthony> ... I don't know what to do
20:18:11 <anthony> CL: I tried them in Opera and FF they were fine there
20:18:20 <anthony> ED: Could be the way Batik handles the PNGs
20:18:34 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/harness/htmlObject/struct-image-13-f.html
20:19:32 <anthony> CL: I see what the bug is
20:19:44 <ChrisL> all the 16 bit per component images are wrong in batik
20:20:34 <anthony> CL: Probably got the high and low bytes wrong. I'll raise a bug on it
20:20:51 <anthony> ED: I didn't want to mark it as properly reviewed yet
20:21:02 <anthony> ... and you said you'll change some of the passCriteria wording
20:21:10 <anthony> ... what I did do is update the harness
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20:22:43 <anthony> AG: I had an action to convert the harness to XHTML
20:23:21 <anthony> ... there are still tests to be done?
20:23:28 <anthony> CL: Yes
20:23:57 <anthony> ED: Waiting for Patrick to get back to me on some of them
20:24:48 <anthony> ACTION: Erik to Add XHTML validation to the SVG 1.1 Full 2nd Edition test harness
20:24:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2803 - Add XHTML validation to the SVG 1.1 Full 2nd Edition test harness [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-06-29].
20:25:35 <anthony> Topic: Telcon Schedule
20:25:45 <anthony> ED: I'll be around until the end of the July
20:25:52 <anthony> ... around the 20th I go on holidays
20:25:57 <anthony> ... then I'll be back 3 weeks later
20:26:36 <anthony> ... do we expect to have telcons for that period
20:27:10 <anthony> CL: Depends. Currently we have low attendance
20:28:12 <anthony> ED: I guess we'll do part tracking comments and part test suite work
20:28:23 <anthony> ... we have F2F meeting set up for directly after SVG Open
20:28:51 <anthony> ... has anyone spoken to the organising committee?
20:29:02 <anthony> CL: I can speak to him when I get back from holidays
20:29:11 <anthony> s/holidays/travel/
20:30:09 <anthony> ED: We can try to have a telcon a week
20:30:23 <anthony> ... then hold off for a block of weeks
20:30:32 <anthony> CL: We can have telcons for the first 3 weeks of July
20:30:44 <anthony> ... so we cancel from Tue 27th July to SVG Open
20:31:09 <anthony> ED: I might still be around on IRC or email
20:31:40 <anthony> ACTION: Erik to Send out telcon reminder for everyone
20:31:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2804 - Send out telcon reminder for everyone [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-06-29].
20:32:15 <anthony> CL: I think we can move back to one telcon a week
20:32:20 <anthony> ... probably the Tuesday time
20:32:33 <anthony> ED: Tuesday is a good time for me
20:32:41 <anthony> AG: I'll be there for that
20:33:14 <anthony> Topic: Cascading of presentational attributes
20:33:27 <anthony> CL: Fantasi proposed wording for 2.1 and SVG
20:33:34 <anthony> ... it is good for both, but a bit short for SVG
20:33:46 <anthony> ... and she's proposed wording for 2.1
20:34:04 <anthony> ... but we can't use 2.1 because but we reference 2.0
20:34:22 <anthony> ED: We should probably reiterate the specificity
20:34:36 <anthony> CL: Can you email back and say you like the wording
20:35:59 <anthony> ED: Can we accept her wording as a comment?
20:36:06 <anthony> ... can we take her wording?
20:36:13 <anthony> CL: The essential part has not changed
20:36:42 <anthony> ... we test it in a selectors test
20:36:56 <anthony> ED: Even if we reference 2.0 it doesn't change anything?
20:37:15 <anthony> CL: There a few places were we have a direct link to a spec
20:37:31 <anthony> ... I think we can work out some wording for it
20:38:25 <anthony> ACTION: Erik to Respond and put Fantasi's comment into Tracker
20:38:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2805 - Respond and put Fantasi's comment into Tracker [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-06-29].
20:39:12 <anthony> ED: No other agenda requests
20:39:40 <Zakim> -ChrisL
20:39:42 <Zakim> -ed
20:39:44 <Zakim> -anthony
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20:39:46 <Zakim> Attendees were [IPcaller], ed, ChrisL, anthony
20:55:17 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
20:55:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/22-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
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21:47:24 <shepazu> ed_work, ed, anthony, when was the telcon?
21:47:42 <anthony> about 1:45 ago
21:47:55 <anthony> 1 hour 45 mins
21:48:58 <shepazu> ah, ok
21:49:17 <shepazu> was the telcon time changed? I must have missed that...
22:06:50 <anthony> yes, to Tuesday 20:00 UTC
22:07:00 <anthony> but the other telcon time is the same
22:07:23 <anthony> although, as of this week, I think we're moving to one telcon a week for now while people are away
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