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19:51:11 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
19:51:11 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 51 minutes ago
19:51:17 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
19:51:32 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0085.html
19:51:50 <Jan> Chair: Jutta Treviranus
19:52:00 <Jan> Regrets: Sueann N.
19:54:59 <jeanne> jeanne has joined #au
19:56:08 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
19:56:15 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aaaa
19:56:35 <jeanne> zakim, aaaa is jeanne
19:56:35 <Zakim> +jeanne; got it
19:59:50 <Jan> zakim, code?
19:59:50 <Zakim> the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Jan
19:59:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:00:09 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
20:00:09 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
20:00:54 <AnnM> AnnM has joined #au
20:02:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:03:43 <AnnM> Hey.
20:03:52 <AnnM> Is Zakim's UK number still having problems?
20:04:07 <ARonksley> ARonksley has joined #au
20:04:41 <jeanne> let me check...
20:05:46 <Zakim> +??P4
20:06:18 <jeanne> zakim, [IPcaller} is really Jutta
20:06:18 <Zakim> sorry, jeanne, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller}'
20:06:32 <Jan> zakim, ??P4 is really Alastair
20:06:32 <Zakim> +Alastair; got it
20:06:38 <Zakim> +Greg_Pisocky
20:06:58 <Jan> using skype.
20:07:21 <AnnM> ok, I'll try that.
20:07:29 <jeanne> 1 617.761.6200
20:07:32 <AnnM> is the UK number going to be active again any time soon?
20:07:56 <Jan> sorry Jeanne says no ETA on fixing it
20:08:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
20:08:28 <AnnM> yeah.
20:08:49 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is really AnnM
20:08:49 <Zakim> +AnnM; got it
20:08:57 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta
20:08:57 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
20:09:06 <Jan> zakim, who's here?
20:09:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see jeanne, Jan, Jutta, Alastair, Greg_Pisocky, AnnM
20:09:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see ARonksley, AnnM, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, alastairc, trackbot
20:10:32 <Jan> action jeanne: to find out when the UK zakim line will be fixed
20:10:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-283 - Find out when the UK zakim line will be fixed [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2010-06-28].
20:11:44 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0085.html
20:11:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:12:13 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really AndrewR
20:12:13 <Zakim> +AndrewR; got it
20:12:29 <jeanne> zakim, who is here?
20:12:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see jeanne, Jan, Jutta, Alastair, Greg_Pisocky, AnnM, AndrewR
20:12:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see ARonksley, AnnM, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, alastairc, trackbot
20:12:55 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0085.html
20:13:16 <Jan> Scribe: Jan
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20:13:38 <Jan> Topic: 1. Last Call publishing update (Jeanne S.)
20:14:12 <Jan> Jeanne: Allowed to publish...sent out updated draft a few mins ago
20:14:23 <Jan> Jeanne: Hopefully people will look at it
20:14:40 <Jan> Jeanne: I have to convert it to a LC working draft
20:14:48 <Jan> Jenane: No more rodblocks
20:14:59 <Jan> Jeanne: No more rodblocks
20:15:29 <Jan> JT: Given that when we will schedule LC has implications on F2F timing...
20:15:44 <Jan> Jeanne: Suggested we have 8 week review period.
20:15:56 <Jan> Jeanne: Assuming we go this week...
20:16:15 <Jan> Jeanne: We are looking at any time after Fri Aug 27....
20:16:41 <Jan> Jeanne: Really looking at end of aug, start of sept.
20:16:57 <Jan> JT, GP: Better mid-Sept
20:17:03 <Zakim> -AndrewR
20:17:08 <Jan> JT: In terms of a host, we could do it (OCAD)
20:17:21 <Jan> JT: Any probs for US companies?
20:17:28 <Jan> GP: Not for me (adobe)
20:17:37 <Jan> JT: I'll start the process at our end
20:17:38 <jeanne> not for me
20:18:11 <Jan> JT: We will be right downtown...Island Airport very close
20:19:20 <Jan> JT: We will need a survey of dates in Sept.
20:19:36 <Jan> Jeanne: Range?
20:19:57 <Jan> JT: I have ISO meeting week of Sept. 7.
20:20:09 <Jan> Jeanne: For me ok after Sept. 8th
20:20:46 <Jan> Jeanne: From Sept 8-24 range for survey?
20:21:16 <Jan> Topic: 2. New "Implementing ATAG 2.0" text
20:21:22 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0083.html
20:21:50 <jeanne> action: Jeanne to make a survey of available dates for the face to face using a date range of 8-24 of Sseptember
20:21:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-284 - Make a survey of available dates for the face to face using a date range of 8-24 of Sseptember [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2010-06-28].
20:23:18 <Jan> AC: I see this as a key problem for some CMS tools
20:23:38 <Jan> AC: I think it should be normative...but I'm not sure at what point something rises to that level
20:23:59 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:24:06 <Jan> AC: The text sounds fine for the informative...but I wonder what the criteria are for a new normative success criterion
20:24:39 <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-IMPLEMENTING-ATAG20-20100621/#sc_a311
20:25:50 <Jan> AC: I had seen a browser-based example where there was a long UI-distance between the selected text and the operators
20:26:01 <jeanne> present+ Tim_Boland
20:26:08 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:26:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:26:24 <jeanne> rrsagent, make logs public
20:26:34 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:26:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:27:48 <Jan> JR: I def. think its covered but we can't always control for bad usabilitity implementations
20:28:03 <Jan> Resolution: All accepted: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0083.html
20:28:03 <jeanne> present+ AlastairC, AnnM, GregP, JanR, AndrewR, JeanneS, JuttaT
20:28:15 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:28:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:28:20 <Jan> Topic: 3. IMPLEMENTATION GATHERING
20:29:13 <Jan> JR: I believe that people had said implementations would be coming soon
20:29:25 <Jan> GP: I believe so, some things have just become available
20:29:44 <Jan> JT: Can others who are on the call begin looking around for implementations
20:30:03 <Jan> JT: Can we quickly try to see how far we can get...
20:31:18 <Jan> Topic: B.2.1.2 Set Accessible Properties:
20:31:41 <jeanne> http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca/public/atag/implementation_report_rev5.html
20:34:00 <Jan> Topic: B.2.4.2 Automated suggestions
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20:36:36 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5.1 Templates Accessible (WCAG Level A)
20:37:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:38:24 <Jan> B.2.5.2 Provide Accessible Templates:
20:40:59 <Jan> B.3.2.1 Active by Default
20:41:37 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
20:42:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:43:36 <Jan> Topic: B.3.2.2 Reactivate Option:
20:44:41 <Jan> Topic: B.3.3.1 Instructions
20:45:27 <Jan> Topic: B.3.4.1 Model Accessible Practice (WCAG Level A)
20:51:40 <Jan> Topic: A.1.1.2 Web-Based Accessible (WCAG Level AA): 
20:53:57 <Tim> Tim has joined #au
20:56:21 <Jan> Topic: A.4.1.3 Undo is Reversible
20:57:20 <Jan> Next meeting is June 28
20:57:25 <Zakim> -Greg_Pisocky
20:57:30 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
20:57:31 <Zakim> -AnnM
20:57:32 <Zakim> -Jan
20:57:33 <Zakim> -Alastair
20:57:34 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
20:57:37 <Zakim> -Jutta
20:57:40 <jeanne> zakim, bye
20:57:40 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.617.324.aaaa, jeanne, Jan, Alastair, Greg_Pisocky, AnnM, Jutta, AndrewR, Tim_Boland, [IPcaller]
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20:58:09 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:58:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:59:12 <jeanne> rrsagent, bye
20:59:12 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-actions.rdf :
20:59:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jeanne to to find out when the UK zakim line will be fixed [1]
20:59:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-irc#T20-10-32
20:59:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeanne to make a survey of available dates for the face to face using a date range of 8-24 of Sseptember [2]
20:59:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/21-au-irc#T20-21-50