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15:15:59 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 98765
15:15:59 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM scheduled to start 16 minutes ago
15:16:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference
15:16:00 <trackbot> Date: 18 June 2010
15:16:24 <smiles> Simon: <describes template for analysis with regard to the business contract scenario>
15:17:20 <pgroth> I thought about this as a hierarchy
15:17:24 <YolandaGIl> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_News_Aggregator_Scenario
15:17:49 <pgroth> topic - user requirements - technical requirements
15:18:18 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_Disease_Outbreak_Scenario
15:18:21 <YolandaGIl> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_Disease_Outbreak_Scenario
15:20:14 <pgroth> entry points would be good
15:20:23 <pgroth> from the research
15:20:30 <pgroth> have fun everyone
15:20:32 <pgroth> i'm off
15:22:06 <smiles> Yolanda: by anchoring state of the art analyses in scenarios, helps those who need to represent provenance
15:23:03 <smiles> James: worry about saying the same thing in several places, as state of art/TR apply in multiple scenarios
15:23:41 <Paolo_> q+
15:23:42 <smiles> Yolanda: general TRs have overlap, need to be cut down
15:23:58 <smiles> yes, that's what I meant
15:25:28 <smiles> James: can start analysis by looking at general state of art known about (e.g. prov in databases) and say how it applies - part of gap analysis
15:25:54 <smiles> q?
15:26:33 <Paolo_> q-
15:26:58 <smiles> James: some people, including me, could work on analyses of technology towards scenarios
15:27:16 <smiles> Yolanda: also signs up for this
15:27:37 <Dgarijo> me too
15:28:10 <smiles> James: 1-2 page survey of technology area for provenance (e.g. me for databases) - who is interested in joining?
15:28:21 <smiles> Yolanda: use existing survey papers as guidance
15:28:55 <smiles> Yolanda: get started on it, bring it up on later telecon to recruit more people
15:39:03 <smiles> Simon: scenario-specific user requirements as instances of the general user requirements originally listed as relevant to scenario 
15:45:39 <jcheney> The conclusions of the report may then be incorporated into policy briefing documents used by civil servants or experts on behalf of the government to identify possible policy decisions that will be made by (non-expert) decision makers, to help avoid or respond to future outbreaks of owl flu. This process may involve considering hypotheticals or reevaluating the primary data using different methodologies than those applied originally by Alice. The report and
15:46:37 <smiles> Yolanda: need to rephrase, cut out general requirements where ambiguous, overlapping - check coverage by 3 scenarios after all analyses
15:50:56 <Paolo_> this seems to be very specific now, checking out I will catch up on the details
15:55:15 <smiles> Simon: attach specific examples to user requirements (as in analysis of scenario 1) to aid understanding
15:56:20 <smiles> Yolanda: remaining content user requirements seem relevant
15:58:45 <smiles> Yolanda: not sure whether long list of general reqs will be a product of the group
15:59:13 <smiles> Simon: Paul intends to copy back rephrased requirements from scenarios to long list after analyses
16:00:12 <Dgarijo> Sure
16:00:21 <Dgarijo> i dont have a mic sorry
16:00:53 <Dgarijo> ok
16:01:28 <smiles> Yolanda: to work on URs for scenario 2, TRs will be started in later telecon
16:02:10 <smiles> Yolanda: diagrams very helpful - anyone willing to help with this?
16:04:27 <Dgarijo> bye
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16:04:40 <smiles> trackbot, end telecon
16:04:40 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:04:40 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:04:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:04:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/18-prov-xg-minutes.html trackbot
16:04:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
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