IRC log of lld on 2010-06-10

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13:49:51 [RRSAgent]

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13:49:56 [TomB]

rrsagent, bookmark

13:49:56 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T13-49-56

13:50:00 [TomB]

zakim, this will be lld

13:50:00 [Zakim]

ok, TomB; I see INC_LLDXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes

13:50:06 [TomB]

Meeting: LLD XG

13:50:11 [antoine]

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13:50:12 [TomB]

Chair: Tom

13:50:33 [TomB]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0035.html

13:51:02 [TomB]

Previous: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html

13:51:40 [mhausenblas]

I have to send last minutes regrets, sorry

13:52:08 [TomB]

Regrets: Bernard, Carlo, Andras, Dickson, Jonathan, Fumiihiro, Wolfgang, Felix, Stu

13:52:17 [TomB]

rrsagent, please make minutes public

13:52:17 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes public', TomB. Try /msg RRSAgent help

13:52:22 [mhausenblas]

regrets+ Michael

13:52:58 [TomB]

rrsagent, please make record public

13:53:13 [Zakim]

INC_LLDXG()10:00AM has now started

13:53:20 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

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+michaelp

13:55:32 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

13:55:47 [Zakim]

+michaelp.a

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13:56:38 [antoine]

zakim, IPcaller is Tom

13:56:38 [Zakim]

+Tom; got it

13:56:42 [jeff]

zakim, who is on the phone?

13:56:42 [Zakim]

On the phone I see antoine, michaelp, Tom, michaelp.a

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13:57:36 [Zakim]

+??P17

13:57:44 [kai]

zakim, ??P17 is really me.

13:57:44 [Zakim]

+kai; got it

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13:58:08 [kai]

zakim, mute me

13:58:08 [Zakim]

kai should now be muted

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13:58:26 [Zakim]

+ +0789798aaaa

13:58:39 [antoine]

zakim, aaaa is william

13:58:39 [Zakim]

+william; got it

13:58:57 [Zakim]

+jodi

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+jeff.a

13:59:56 [Zakim]

+ +1.607.785.aabb

13:59:58 [Zakim]

+jneubert

14:00:11 [Zakim]

+ +0361279aacc

14:00:17 [ww]

could someone remind me of the keybindings for mute/unmute?

14:00:30 [Zakim]

+??P25

14:00:40 [jodi]

ww: Conferees can mute themselves by dialing 61#. In that case, unmute is 60#.

14:00:47 [jodi]

ww: from http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot

14:00:49 [JonP]

zakim, aabb is me

14:00:51 [ww]

jodi: ty

14:00:52 [Zakim]

sorry, JonP, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'

14:00:53 [Zakim]

+ +03315379aadd

14:01:07 [Zakim]

+[LC]

14:01:09 [emmanuelle_]

zakim, aadd is me

14:01:09 [Zakim]

+emmanuelle_; got it

14:01:22 [Zakim]

+??P37

14:01:28 [JonP]

zakim, jon is me

14:01:28 [Zakim]

+JonP; got it

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14:01:49 [rsinger]

zakim, ??P25 is really me

14:01:49 [Zakim]

+rsinger; got it

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14:02:08 [digikim]

hello

14:02:14 [Zakim]

+??P43

14:02:15 [digikim]

ok, I just called in

14:02:19 [digikim]

Kim Viljanen

14:02:20 [Zakim]

+??P38

14:02:51 [TomB]

Scribe: JonP

14:02:56 [TomB]

Scribenick: JonP

14:03:10 [digikim]

(first time using this + first time calling with skype to ordinary phone so still learning + first time installed skype on this new computer, so configuration not done) :)

14:03:13 [AlexanderH]

Zakim, ?p43 is me

14:03:15 [Zakim]

+[LC]

14:03:16 [edsu]

Zakim, LC is edsu

14:03:22 [Andras]

zakim, code?

14:03:25 [Zakim]

sorry, AlexanderH, I do not recognize a party named '?p43'

14:03:28 [Zakim]

+edsu; got it

14:03:29 [Zakim]

the conference code is 55394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Andras

14:03:39 [Zakim]

+??P44

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+[IPcaller]

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14:06:36 [ww]

Zakim, ww is william

14:06:36 [Zakim]

sorry, ww, I do not recognize a party named 'ww'

14:06:47 [ww]

Zakim, william is ww

14:06:47 [Zakim]

+ww; got it

14:07:43 [Zakim]

+ +1.330.289.aaee

14:07:54 [Zakim]

+Oreste

14:08:15 [AlexanderH]

61#

14:08:26 [JonP]

http://www.mibbit.com/chat/#lld@irc.w3.org:6665

14:08:36 [edsu]

JonP: tweet it

14:08:37 [Nico]

hi everyone

14:08:42 [jodi]

Or -- with the channel Mibbit direct link to share with those not on IRC: http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&channel=%23lld

14:08:48 [Nico]

I'm trying to join telecon :)

14:08:51 [digikim]

I'm using http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc -- working ok (didn't have time to join by my ordinary irc client)

14:09:16 [AlexanderH]

zakim, mute me

14:09:16 [Zakim]

sorry, AlexanderH, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

14:09:41 [digikim]

must I mute myself also from the phone conference system or is skype mute enough?

14:09:58 [kai]

if your line is not noisy, skype mute should be ok

14:10:04 [digikim]

kai: ok, great

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14:10:51 [JonP]

Topic: Administrative

14:11:36 [Marcia]

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14:11:45 [JonP]

RESOLVED: accept minutes of previous telecon

14:11:56 [Nico]

I can't join the conference room

14:11:56 [jodi]

Those minutes are here btw: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html

14:12:41 [antoine]

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Telecons

14:13:07 [JonP]

Antoine: discussing generated minutes process

14:13:39 [Nico]

code has changed since last week ?

14:13:45 [JonP]

TomB: Part of our routine should be to include a link in the minutes to the wiki page

14:13:58 [JonP]

TomB: Introductions redux

14:14:01 [digikim]

I was not

14:14:09 [jodi]

yes, I was here last time

14:14:16 [ahoughton]

Andrew Houghton, OCLC

14:14:25 [digikim]

hello all & world :)

14:15:45 [kai]

I was here but did not introduce myself

14:15:50 [antoine]

William: Open knowledge foundation

14:16:01 [GordonD]

i.m currently working with rdf representations of frbr, frad and isbd (ifla standards) and rda, vmf and other related stuff - i'm also a practicing cataloguer of 25 years experience

14:16:20 [jneubert]

Joachim Neubert, German National Library of Economics

14:16:47 [jodi]

(please add to action items -- "send introduction to listserv" -- and specify which one ;) )

14:17:12 [JonP]

TomB: mailing lists

14:17:22 [gneher]

Guenther Neher, Universitiy of Appied Sciences, interested in educational aspects

14:17:42 [Zakim]

+ +049238aaff

14:17:56 [jodi]

q+ please add to action items -- "send introduction to listserv" -- and specify which one ;)

14:18:01 [fsasaki]

s/Appied Sciences/Applied Sciences Potsdam/

14:18:13 [digikim]

Kim Viljanen, Aalto University (Helsinki, Finland); interested in Linked Open Data; ontology repositories; our research group has been working on e.g. cultural heritage, health, government, etc etc + ontologies + apps + etc

14:18:14 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-minutes.html fsasaki

14:18:19 [antoine]

q+ to add actions

14:18:23 [JonP]

TomB: 2 lists, one specifically focused on the work of the XG

14:18:27 [digikim]

http://www.seco.tkk.fi (our research group: Semantic Computing Research Group SeCo)

14:18:27 [Nico]

yes I am in

14:18:46 [JonP]

TomB: the other is completely open for community participation

14:19:00 [JonP]

TomB: cross-posting is encouraged

14:21:26 [JonP]

ACTION: All group members should please post and introduction to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld

14:22:29 [antoine]

ACTION: Antoine to clean up mailing list on http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action01]

14:22:33 [antoine]

--CONTINUES

14:23:05 [digikim]

:)

14:24:57 [digikim]

who is an experienced scribent?

14:25:04 [JonP]

TomB: scribing duties will rotate. Everyone scribes unless Tom grants an indulgence

14:25:22 [JonP]

Topic: Use Cases

14:26:14 [jodi]

Here is said email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0040.html

14:26:34 [JonP]

Antoine: sent a message to start the process of gathering use cases

14:27:03 [jneubert]

q+ to ask about the type of use cases

14:27:10 [digikim]

(antoine's sound is slightly distorted... difficult to hear...)

14:27:18 [Zakim]

antoine, you wanted to add actions

14:27:24 [digikim]

I can hear you

14:27:28 [JonP]

Antoine:key is feedback from the broader community for incorporation into the use case document

14:27:36 [Zakim]

jneubert, you wanted to ask about the type of use cases

14:28:23 [JonP]

jneubert: challenging or typical use cases?

14:28:40 [JonP]

Antoine:both -- open to both kinds

14:30:04 [emmanuelle_]

q+ to ask about use case methodology

14:30:15 [TomB]

ack emmanuelle

14:30:15 [Zakim]

emmanuelle_, you wanted to ask about use case methodology

14:30:25 [JonP]

Antoine: We will write the use cases ourselves based on gathered use cases from the community

14:30:58 [TomB]

Semantic Web Usage Cases: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/

14:31:07 [JonP]

emmanuelle_: should the use cases follow the form of the semantic web use cases

14:31:14 [TomB]

q+ to suggest that SWEO use cases might set the bar too high

14:31:28 [Zakim]

TomB, you wanted to suggest that SWEO use cases might set the bar too high

14:31:48 [JonP]

Antoine: we should focus on use cases more specific to our community

14:32:06 [JonP]

TomB: the SWEO use cases are quite polished

14:32:19 [oreste]

oreste has changed the topic to: LLD-XG Telecon 2010-06-10 (oreste)

14:32:23 [JonP]

TomB: and may be more than we need

14:32:59 [JonP]

TomB: we want to capture work in progress, as problems emerge, and are simpler/shorter than SWEO

14:33:11 [ahoughton]

+1

14:33:22 [jeff]

+1

14:33:30 [oreste]

+1

14:33:39 [gneher]

+1

14:33:40 [fsasaki]

+1

14:33:49 [JonP]

Antoine: consensus seems to be emerging :-)

14:33:56 [edsu]

+1

14:33:59 [michaelp]

q+

14:34:08 [jneubert]

i'd love to contribute

14:34:27 [GordonD]

i am happy to contribute some embryonic use cases

14:34:43 [JonP]

michaelp: contributing or curating use cases?

14:34:50 [Zakim]

-GordonD

14:34:58 [kcoyle]

http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/ has some cataloging use cases/ site seems down

14:35:05 [digikim]

Antoine: I would be interested, but I'm not yet completely sure about the goals of this XG (first meeting for me today)

14:35:33 [kai]

q+ to recommend as first step some framing details about the use cases to gather

14:35:37 [Nico]

Do we focus on library use cases or "border lines" are accepted too ?

14:35:42 [JonP]

Antoine: it depends on who is interested. We should first determine who will be performing the editor role

14:35:55 [TomB]

http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/ is available

14:36:17 [jodi]

kai++ framing details useful

14:36:22 [Nico]

q+

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14:37:15 [Zakim]

kai, you wanted to recommend as first step some framing details about the use cases to gather

14:37:24 [GordonD]

Has the bristol bridge gone down - I've been cut off

14:37:32 [JonP]

Antoine: it would seem that the XG wouldn't restrict the use cases initially

14:38:06 [oreste]

I think we should emphasize the usefulness of Linked Data in multidisciplinary approach. In this sense, border line UC should be considered

14:38:07 [TomB]

+1 that the first step should be to define the framework for use cases

14:38:16 [emmanuelle_]

+1

14:38:19 [Andras]

Gordon: I am also using Bristol

14:38:32 [JonP]

kai: we should decide whether we want to create a template for submitted use cases

14:39:05 [JonP]

kai: as a first step. There is one that could be used

14:39:09 [jodi]

oreste++ very interested in supporting collaboration outside library+obvious partners

14:39:17 [Zakim]

-marcia

14:40:23 [ww]

GordonD: I am on the bristol bridge, no problems here

14:40:34 [JonP]

ACTION: Antoine and kai to prepare a template for use cases. Kai to contibute a template from the provinance group

14:41:39 [JonP]

Antoine: is the timeline in the agenda acceptable?

14:42:01 [AlexanderH]

+1

14:42:21 [JonP]

TomB: suggest we consider this a strawman timeline and refine as we go

14:42:22 [jeff]

+1

14:42:43 [kai]

+1

14:42:51 [JonP]

TOPIC: Karen Demo

14:42:52 [digikim]

+1

14:43:17 [JonP]

karen: we need something that we can use to take the lld work on the road

14:44:17 [antoine]

s/one that could be used/one that could be used from the Prov XG

14:44:29 [JonP]

KCoyle: looking to create some visualizations and presentations

14:44:50 [rsinger]

can you reuse things on slideshare?

14:44:55 [rsinger]

i mean, individual slides...

14:44:59 [JonP]

TomB: Powerpoint? First step is to create a wiki page and upload existing presentations

14:45:15 [kai]

+1 for openoffice

14:45:20 [edsu]

yeah, maybe not ... i guess just putting them on the wiki is fine

14:45:40 [AlexanderH]

you can download slides as registered user

14:45:46 [JonP]

TomB: an opportunity to create public slides, Creative Commons attribution to this group

14:45:57 [jodi]

edsu: I think putting them on the wiki, and copying elsewhere (e.g. slideshare) would be useful

14:46:00 [edsu]

it's a really good idea

14:46:03 [oreste]

openoffice or slidy (and having a pdf version, too)

14:46:18 [antoine]

I wonder whether slideshare license policy is compatible with W3C one

14:46:19 [JonP]

ACTION: TomB and KCoyle will create a page for presentations and will upload some slides

14:46:34 [edsu]

so i don't have to make any slides for my presentation next week :-)

14:46:48 [rsinger]

edsu++ # that was my plan, too

14:47:05 [jodi]

ah, slidy is awesome: http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/ -- can link to particular slides

14:47:14 [ww]

jodi: +1

14:47:26 [edsu]

rsinger: ok we've got laziness down, now we just need some hubris and impatience :-)

14:47:33 [JonP]

KCoyle: presentations in multiple formats, multiple languages, some simpler than others

14:48:03 [JonP]

KCoyle: trying to present familiar information in an unfamiliar way

14:48:30 [JonP]

TOPIC: Next steps

14:48:54 [jodi]

wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics

14:49:06 [JonP]

TomB: we have a wiki page that is a brain dump of relevant topics

14:49:41 [JonP]

TomB: everyone should feel free to use the wiki to add items to the list

14:50:03 [antoine]

q+

14:50:05 [JonP]

TomB: we should be looking to consolidate some of these items into task groups

14:50:13 [JonP]

TOPIC: telecons

14:50:55 [JonP]

TomB: we should hold June telecons even though it can be tough for some of us

14:51:08 [JonP]

TOPIC: summer telecons

14:51:33 [JonP]

TomB: there's a doodle link for people to indicate availability for July and August

14:51:56 [digikim]

Antoine: +1

14:52:09 [JonP]

ACTION: all group members should please go to http://www.doodle.com/hvwb4fe4x2kdq3cy - indicate your availability

14:52:27 [edsu]

only a handful of people on http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Topics&action=history

14:52:40 [antoine]

ACTION: ALL: Edit the topics for our work at the wiki: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action02]

14:52:46 [antoine]

--CONTINUES

14:52:59 [edsu]

tbaker, ebermes, mzeng, jschneider, jneubert

14:53:40 [jeff]

+1

14:53:44 [antoine]

+1

14:53:46 [rsinger]

+1

14:53:47 [ww]

+1

14:53:48 [emmanuelle_]

+1

14:53:53 [kai]

+1

14:53:56 [digikim]

+1

14:53:58 [AlexanderH]

+1

14:54:20 [antoine]

q+

14:54:25 [JonP]

ACTION: ALL: members of the XG please add your name to the topics list to indicate where their interests lie

14:54:43 [JonP]

TOPIC: Face 2 face

14:54:53 [digikim]

is the travel costs funded by W3C or our own organizations? (newbie question)

14:55:03 [antoine]

no :-(

14:55:12 [antoine]

it should be your own org

14:55:18 [digikim]

ok

14:55:21 [JonP]

TOMB: propose meeting be held Saturday and Sunday 2324 October in Pittsburgh

14:55:34 [antoine]

... but we link it to a nice motivating pair of conferences :-)

14:55:53 [digikim]

antoine: yep, noticed :)

14:56:01 [jodi]

colocated with ASIST: http://www.asis.org/asist2010/ and DC2010: http://www.asis.org/Conferences/DC2010/

14:56:37 [antoine]

q+ on SWIB conf

14:56:45 [Zakim]

antoine, you wanted to comment on SWIB conf

14:56:47 [JonP]

ACTION: ALL: group members please indicate your availability for the proposed F2F meeting in a Doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/gaipzmfc7xp9f4zq

14:56:58 [edsu]

shoot, overlaps with ipres this year

14:57:22 [kcoyle]

the one in koln?

14:57:26 [TomB]

edsu, when is ipres?

14:57:30 [digikim]

Antoine: ISWC 2010 would be good meeting place

14:57:30 [kai]

+1 for SWIB

14:57:52 [antoine]

s/ISWC 2010/SWIB 2010

14:57:58 [jodi]

SWIB 2010: http://swib.org/swib10/e_call-for-participation.html

14:58:14 [kai]

Someone on JCDL/ICALD?

14:58:26 [edsu]

+1 for SWIB as parallel venue

14:58:47 [digikim]

(antoine: no I was trying to suggest ISWC as an additional possibility)

14:59:00 [Andras]

or ECDL 2010: http://www.ecdl2010.org/ ?

14:59:03 [fsasaki]

+1 for SWIB as well

14:59:05 [edsu]

whew, thanks :-)

14:59:05 [ww]

+1 swib

14:59:07 [emmanuelle_]

no overlap with IPRES, its in september

14:59:23 [rsinger]

can there be more options of dates in that week?

14:59:37 [rsinger]

i mean, more aligned with DC2010 than ASIST?

14:59:48 [JonP]

TomB: we can explore alternative options to Pittsburgh in addition to indicating availability

15:00:25 [JonP]

TomB: upcoming topics

15:00:28 [kcoyle]

+1 swib

15:00:43 [JonP]

Community building and outreach: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RelatedGroups

15:01:00 [Zakim]

-edsu

15:01:00 [digikim]

thank you & bye

15:01:01 [JonP]

Assessment of technology pieces and vocabularies: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Technology

15:01:02 [ww]

thank you everyone.

15:01:03 [Zakim]

-rsinger

15:01:05 [Zakim]

-alexander

15:01:06 [Zakim]

-ww

15:01:07 [Zakim]

-andras

15:01:09 [Zakim]

-gneher

15:01:10 [Zakim]

-Nico

15:01:14 [Zakim]

-ray

15:01:16 [Zakim]

-michaelp.a

15:01:16 [edsu]

no reason why we can't stay on the irc channel :-)

15:01:17 [oreste]

bye bye

15:01:23 [Zakim]

-jeff

15:01:24 [edsu]

if things come up, and you sit at a computer all day

15:01:28 [hvdsomp]

+1 for SWIB. this group should present there.

15:01:29 [JonP]

[adjourned]

15:01:31 [Zakim]

-Oreste

15:01:35 [Zakim]

-kim

15:01:37 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-minutes.html fsasaki

15:01:41 [Zakim]

-michaelp

15:01:42 [JonP]

zakim, list attendees

15:01:45 [Zakim]

-ahoughton

15:01:47 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been antoine, Tom, jeff, kai, +0789798aaaa, jodi, +1.607.785.aabb, jneubert, michaelp, +0361279aacc, +03315379aadd, emmanuelle_, andras, JonP,

15:01:50 [Zakim]

... ray, rsinger, kim, alexander, edsu, [IPcaller], fsasaki, ahoughton, ww, +1.330.289.aaee, Oreste, marcia, GordonD, +049238aaff, Nico

15:02:01 [hvdsomp]

-hvdsomp

15:02:04 [michaelp]

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15:02:05 [antoine]

ACTION: ALL: Flag July/August availability at http://www.doodle.com/hvwb4fe4x2kdq3cy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action03]

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--CONTINUES

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Zakim -hvdsomp

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-kai

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15:04:11 [jodi]

bye :)

15:04:17 [Zakim]

-jodi

15:05:00 [antoine]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

15:05:00 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-minutes.html antoine

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-jneubert

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-emmanuelle_

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15:09:54 [antoine]

zakim, bye

15:09:54 [Zakim]

leaving. As of this point the attendees were antoine, Tom, jeff, kai, +0789798aaaa, jodi, +1.607.785.aabb, jneubert, michaelp, +0361279aacc, +03315379aadd, emmanuelle_, andras,

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... JonP, ray, rsinger, kim, alexander, edsu, [IPcaller], fsasaki, ahoughton, ww, +1.330.289.aaee, Oreste, marcia, GordonD, +049238aaff, Nico

15:10:02 [antoine]

rrsagent, bye

15:10:02 [RRSAgent]

I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: All group members should please post and introduction to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld [1]

15:10:02 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-21-26

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ACTION: Antoine to clean up mailing list on http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action01] [2]

15:10:02 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-22-29

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ACTION: Antoine and kai to prepare a template for use cases. Kai to contibute a template from the provinance group [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-40-34

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ACTION: TomB and KCoyle will create a page for presentations and will upload some slides [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-46-19

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ACTION: all group members should please go to http://www.doodle.com/hvwb4fe4x2kdq3cy - indicate your availability [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-52-09

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ACTION: ALL: Edit the topics for our work at the wiki: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action02] [6]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-52-40

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ACTION: ALL: members of the XG please add your name to the topics list to indicate where their interests lie [7]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-54-25

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ACTION: ALL: group members please indicate your availability for the proposed F2F meeting in a Doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/gaipzmfc7xp9f4zq [8]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T14-56-47

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ACTION: ALL: Flag July/August availability at http://www.doodle.com/hvwb4fe4x2kdq3cy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action03] [9]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-lld-irc#T15-02-05

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