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14:49:22 <csma> rrsagent, make log public
14:49:28 <csma> rrsagent, make minutes
14:49:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-rif-minutes.html csma
14:50:43 <csma> Chair: Christian de Sainte Marie
14:51:30 <csma> Regrets: Gary Hallmark, Dave Reynolds
14:51:42 <csma> rrsagent, clear agenda
14:51:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'clear agenda', csma.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:51:51 <csma> rrsagent, reset agenda
14:51:51 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'reset agenda', csma.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:52:03 <csma> zakim, clear agenda
14:52:03 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:52:25 <csma> item+ Admin
14:52:38 <csma> agendum+ Admin
14:52:56 <csma> agendum+ Liaisons
14:53:04 <csma> agendum+ Actions review
14:53:23 <csma> agendum+ PR followup
14:53:39 <csma> agendum+ RIF Primer
14:53:49 <csma> agendum+ RIF in RDF
14:54:05 <csma> agendum+ RIF combination with XML data
14:54:14 <csma> agendum+ Test cases
14:54:24 <csma> agendum+ AOB (next meeting)
14:58:14 <MichaelKifer> MichaelKifer has joined #rif
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15:00:58 <josb> josb has joined #rif
15:01:01 <Zakim> SW_RIF()11:00AM has now started
15:01:09 <Zakim> +Mike_Dean
15:01:56 <Zakim> +??P2
15:02:45 <Zakim> +LeoraMorgenstern
15:02:59 <Zakim> +Sandro
15:03:32 <Zakim> + +1.631.833.aaaa
15:03:39 <MichaelKifer> zakim, aaaa is me
15:03:52 <Zakim> +MichaelKifer; got it
15:05:21 <csma> cannot join, for some reason
15:05:26 <csma> trying again
15:05:54 <Zakim> +[NRCC]
15:05:54 <josb> I also had trouble with the French bridge; now using the one in the UK
15:06:07 <Harold> zakim, NRCC is me.
15:06:07 <Zakim> +Harold; got it
15:06:22 <csma> yes, but i am calling from my private phone...
15:06:45 <josb> I'm using a SIP client :)
15:07:24 <Zakim> -josb
15:08:13 <Zakim> +??P2
15:08:33 <csma> I tried that also, but my laptop tells me the UK bridge does not work either :-(
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15:10:45 <csma> sandro, can you chair, please, while I try connect
15:12:59 <csma> zakim, what is the code?
15:12:59 <Zakim> the conference code is 74394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), csma
15:13:35 <Zakim> + +25437591aabb
15:14:05 <sandro> zakim, list attendees
15:14:05 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Mike_Dean, josb, LeoraMorgenstern, Sandro, +1.631.833.aaaa, MichaelKifer, Harold, +25437591aabb
15:14:23 <sandro> scribenick: MichaelKifer 
15:14:37 <sandro> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:14:46 <sandro> topic: Admin
15:15:16 <sandro> topic: Liason
15:15:46 <Zakim> + +33.9.53.56.aacc
15:16:00 <csma> zakim, aacc is me
15:16:00 <Zakim> +csma; got it
15:16:37 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
15:16:48 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MichaelKifer (38%), csma (66%)
15:17:00 <csma> next item
15:17:20 <csma> zakim, take up item 3
15:17:20 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Actions review" taken up [from csma]
15:18:26 <Zakim> -josb
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15:22:40 <josb> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/OWL_Combination_Invalid_DL_Import
15:25:19 <csma> next item
15:25:29 <csma> take up item 4
15:26:49 <Zakim> -josb
15:31:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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15:39:01 <MichaelKifer> nice to have a press release during semtech conference, but not clear who will do it.
15:39:55 <csma> take up item 5
15:41:14 <MichaelKifer> Leora has circulated some sections of the primer to Harold and Chris.
15:41:30 <MichaelKifer> Currently not on the wiki
15:43:33 <MichaelKifer> csma: 22nd is expected to be the rec day for RIF. Would be nice to have the primer by then.
15:45:14 <MichaelKifer> Leora will put the primer on the wiki within a few days
15:45:50 <csma> take up item 6
15:47:16 <MichaelKifer> Sandro not ready to discuss RIF in RDF. The document is on the wiki.
15:48:19 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/RIF_In_RDF
15:56:50 <csma> take up item 7
15:57:09 <csma> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/XML-Data
15:57:34 <MichaelKifer> csma: new version of XML data doc.
15:58:03 <MichaelKifer> improvements in the semantics (closer to RIF+OWL and such)
16:00:09 <MichaelKifer> works both with schema-less XML and with XML schema. But no explanations or examples
16:01:39 <csma> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Dean, LeoraMorgenstern, Sandro, MichaelKifer, Harold, csma, josb
16:02:26 <MichaelKifer> need volunteers to review csma's RIF+XML.
16:03:11 <MichaelKifer> csma would like to republish it as a second WD at the rec time
16:04:18 <MichaelKifer> Jos was arm-twisted into reviewing the doc next week.
16:04:46 <MichaelKifer> Mike is arm-twisted as well
16:06:30 <MichaelKifer> next meeting is on June 22nd
16:06:44 <sandro> or maybe next meeting Thu 17th or 18th
16:07:23 <sandro> jos and leora: I wont object, I just wont be there.  :-)
16:08:24 <MichaelKifer> sandro will poll by email to determine the time of the next meeting
16:08:58 <sandro> ACTION: sandro to setup poll for RIF WG meeting for Jun 17th or 18th, to talk about XML-Data and RIF-in-RDF drafts for publication on 22nd. 
16:08:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1030 - Setup poll for RIF WG meeting for Jun 17th or 18th, to talk about XML-Data and RIF-in-RDF drafts for publication on 22nd.  [on Sandro Hawke - due 2010-06-15].
16:09:29 <csma> PROPOSED: approve minutes of May 18
16:09:30 <csma> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010May/att-0071/rif-minutes-18-may-2010.html
16:09:56 <MichaelKifer> +1
16:10:10 <csma> RESOLVED: approve minutes of MAy 18
16:10:38 <josb> +1
16:10:46 <csma> PROPOSED: adjourn now
16:10:55 <sandro> +1
16:10:56 <MichaelKifer> +1
16:11:01 <mdean> +1
16:11:02 <Zakim> -josb
16:11:04 <Zakim> -LeoraMorgenstern
16:11:10 <Zakim> -Harold
16:11:23 <csma> rrsagent, make minutes
16:11:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-rif-minutes.html csma
16:11:25 <Zakim> -Mike_Dean
16:11:36 <csma> zakim, list attendees
16:11:36 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Mike_Dean, josb, LeoraMorgenstern, Sandro, +1.631.833.aaaa, MichaelKifer, Harold, +25437591aabb, +33.9.53.56.aacc, csma
16:11:48 <csma> rrsagent, make minutes
16:11:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-rif-minutes.html csma
16:12:20 <Zakim> -MichaelKifer
16:12:59 <MichaelKifer> MichaelKifer has left #rif
16:24:27 <Zakim> -csma
16:24:28 <Zakim> SW_RIF()11:00AM has ended
16:24:29 <Zakim> Attendees were Mike_Dean, josb, LeoraMorgenstern, Sandro, +1.631.833.aaaa, MichaelKifer, Harold, +25437591aabb, +33.9.53.56.aacc, csma