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14:53:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 98765
14:53:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:53:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference
14:53:25 <trackbot> Date: 04 June 2010
14:53:44 <YolandaGil> Zakim, this will be inc_provxg
14:53:44 <Zakim> ok, YolandaGil, I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM already started
14:54:21 <YolandaGil> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-prov/2010Jun/0000.html
14:55:20 <YolandaGil> @ Dave: Hi, did you take a look at the pointer to joining the group?
14:55:33 <YolandaGil>  chair: Yolanda Gil
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14:59:02 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:59:26 <SamCoppens> zakim, [IPcaller] is SamCoppens
14:59:26 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it
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14:59:43 <Zakim> +??P10
14:59:52 <Paolo> zakim, P10 is me
14:59:52 <Zakim> sorry, Paolo, I do not recognize a party named 'P10'
15:00:04 <Paolo> zakim, ??P10 is me
15:00:04 <Zakim> +Paolo; got it
15:00:55 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
15:00:55 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
15:00:57 <Zakim> +Ivan
15:01:10 <ivan> zakim, mute me
15:01:10 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
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15:02:37 <Zakim> +[LC]
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15:03:46 <Zakim> +Jerry_Hobbs
15:04:20 <Zakim> +??P16
15:04:31 <kai> zakim, ??P16 is probably me.
15:04:31 <Zakim> +kai?; got it
15:05:05 <SamCoppens> presentation is available on: http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/users/samcoppe/W3C_ProvXG_PREMIS.pdf
15:05:54 <kai> yes, i can try
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15:07:15 <pgroth> can you paste it into irc?
15:07:25 <YolandaGil>  http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/users/samcoppe/W3C_ProvXG_PREMIS.pdf
15:08:03 <kai> Presentation of Sam Coppens together with Rebecca Guenther
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15:13:25 <pgroth> breaking up
15:15:58 <ivan> breaking up again:-(
15:16:03 <Paolo> breaking up again
15:16:11 <pgroth> please talk slow
15:21:10 <ivan> very difficult to follow
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15:27:54 <Paolo> q?
15:28:01 <kai> Presentation finished
15:28:15 <Zakim> +jeff
15:28:23 <Paolo> q+
15:30:13 <pgroth> q+
15:30:21 <kai> Rebecca: Emphasizes that PREMIS is a data dictionary, more a strategy, not everything has to be implemented
15:30:40 <YolandaGil> Zakim, Jerry_Hobbs is really me
15:30:40 <Zakim> +YolandaGil; got it
15:31:28 <kai> More information about intellectual entities is needed that seemed to be out of scope earlier
15:33:15 <kai> LoC published several vocabularies related to PREMIS
15:34:27 <kai> q?
15:35:20 <kai> Paulo: What kind of technologies are used for workflows?
15:36:49 <kai> Sam: Loose binding between workflows and PREMIS events, no specific ontology for the workflows
15:37:21 <kai> Sam:We use an event based workflow engine
15:38:05 <kai> Paolo: How do you define granularity of an object entitiy? File, Collection of file, ... depends on the access rights?
15:38:37 <pgroth> maybe rebecca can respond?
15:39:43 <kai> Rebecca: Objects can be everything, structure is needed to organize them.
15:41:34 <kai> Paul: Use cases for software generated intellectual entities?
15:42:38 <kai> Rebecca: It is more important to know, which Software and version was used, not so much how to exactly use the object
15:42:55 <kai> q?
15:43:06 <pgroth> q-
15:43:09 <kai> ack paolo
15:43:18 <kai> ack pgroth
15:43:30 <kai> zakim, mute paolo
15:43:30 <Zakim> Paolo should now be muted
15:44:08 <Luc> To follow on from Paul, is reproducibility of interest?
15:44:17 <kai> Rebecca: Invitation to send further questions via email
15:44:48 <kai> q?
15:44:56 <Zakim> -[LC]
15:45:13 <kai> Next topic: Update News Aggregator Scenario
15:45:16 <ivan> zakim, drop me
15:45:16 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
15:45:17 <Zakim> -Ivan
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15:45:52 <YolandaGil> Paul Groth is updating us on: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_News_Aggregator_Scenario
15:47:32 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aadd
15:48:28 <Zakim> -??P21
15:49:13 <kai> Paul asks for feedback from the community regarding the technical requirements
15:50:01 <kai> Paul: There should be some time for everyone to read through it
15:50:17 <YolandaGil> Scribe: Kai
15:52:11 <kai> Paul: Two approaches, one top down, one bottom up.
15:55:48 <kai> Paul: Is looking for existing solutions for the technical requirements
15:56:23 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aadd
15:57:05 <kai> The images are great :-)
15:57:49 <kai> Nect topic: Provenance vocabulary mapping
15:57:50 <pgroth> satya?
15:58:04 <kai> Yolanda: Postpone to next talk?
15:58:06 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Provenance_Vocabulary_Mappings
15:58:08 <pgroth> mappings?
15:58:57 <kai> Yolanda: SWAN and PML are missing
15:59:13 <pgroth> +q
15:59:50 <kai> Paul: Three people asked for provenance vocabulary, liked the mapping page very much.
16:00:24 <kai> Paul: Vocabulary Mappings are a concrete product of prov-xg
16:00:56 <pgroth> yolanda...what about the other scenarios?
16:01:05 <pgroth> who want to do that?
16:03:28 <Zakim> -YolandaGil
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16:03:33 <Zakim> -Paolo
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16:04:00 <YolandaGil> Thanks Kai!
16:04:06 <kai> You are welcome
16:04:09 <YolandaGil> I can take it from here and post the minutes.  Thank you!
16:04:17 <YolandaGil> rrsagent, set log public
16:04:26 <kai> I hope that was ok. Thank you for the postprocessing :-)
16:04:27 <YolandaGil> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-prov-xg-minutes.html YolandaGil
16:04:53 <kai> bye
16:05:12 <Zakim> -kai?
16:05:13 <Zakim> INC_PROVXG()11:00AM has ended
16:05:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.781.444.aaaa, SamCoppens, Paolo, Ivan, +0238059aabb, [LC], +1.518.276.aacc, kai?, [IPcaller], YolandaGil, michaelp, +1.937.775.aadd
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