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19:48:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, bookmark
19:48:55 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-irc#T19-48-55
19:50:28 <laurent_lefort_cs> rssagent, make logs world
19:50:56 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, this will be inc_ssn 
19:50:56 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
19:51:29 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:   SSN XG
19:51:43 <laurent_lefort_cs> Chair:     Laurent
19:52:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> Agenda:    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jun/0000.html 
19:52:13 <laurent_lefort_cs> Previous:  2010-05-25 http://www.w3.org/2010/05/25-ssn-minutes.html
19:53:05 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets:   Kevin, Luis, Sumita
19:53:22 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please make record public
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19:56:51 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has now started
19:56:58 <Zakim> + +1.206.662.aaaa
19:56:59 <Arthur> Arthur has joined #ssn
19:57:12 <mib_vxob0c> zakim, +1.206.662.aaaa is me
19:57:12 <Zakim> +mib_vxob0c; got it
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19:57:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:58:05 <Payam> zakim, IPcaller is me
19:58:05 <Zakim> +Payam; got it
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19:59:42 <Zakim> +??P2
19:59:59 <Arthur> zakim, ??P2 is me
19:59:59 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it
20:03:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:03:05 <mib_vxob0c> zakim, mib_vxob0c is david
20:03:05 <Zakim> +david; got it
20:03:21 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
20:03:21 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it
20:03:36 <michael> michael has joined #ssn
20:03:37 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, I am Laurent
20:03:37 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs, I now associate you with laurent_lefort_cs
20:04:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, who is here?
20:04:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see david, Payam, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs
20:04:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see michael, mib_vxob0c, Arthur, RRSAgent, Zakim, laurent_lefort_cs, Payam, trackbot
20:05:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:05:26 <krzysztof_j> krzysztof_j has joined #ssn
20:05:37 <Zakim> +??P5
20:05:39 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
20:05:51 <michael> zakim, ??P5 is me
20:05:51 <Zakim> +michael; got it
20:06:02 <Zakim> +??P4
20:06:06 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, who is here?
20:06:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see david, Payam, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs, michael, ??P4
20:06:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see krzysztof_j, michael, mib_vxob0c, Arthur, RRSAgent, Zakim, laurent_lefort_cs, Payam, trackbot
20:06:12 <krzysztof_j> zakim, ??P4 is me
20:06:12 <Zakim> +krzysztof_j; got it
20:06:21 <Payam> I hear a heavy noise
20:06:31 <krzysztof_j> sa,e for me
20:06:40 <mib_vxob0c> zakim, I am David
20:06:40 <Zakim> ok, mib_vxob0c, I now associate you with david
20:06:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, who is making noise?
20:06:54 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aabb
20:07:13 <cory> cory has joined #ssn
20:07:19 <Zakim> laurent_lefort_cs, listening for 16 seconds I could not identify any sounds
20:08:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, who's here?
20:08:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see david, Payam, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs, michael, krzysztof_j, +1.937.775.aabb
20:08:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see cory, krzysztof_j, michael, mib_vxob0c, Arthur, RRSAgent, Zakim, laurent_lefort_cs, Payam, trackbot
20:10:18 <krzysztof_j> (will try)
20:12:28 <michael> sorry, I have a sick wife a two little kids here, so I'll probably be in an out as I deal with whatever.
20:14:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> Scribing cheat sheet: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/Scribing.html
20:15:18 <laurent_lefort_cs> Telecon etiquette http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/TeleconEtiquette
20:16:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> scribenick David
20:17:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Work plan for the completion of the XG deliverables 
20:17:41 <laurent_lefort_cs> CG guide: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/xg-guide.html 
20:19:17 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: I'd like to try to apply the principles set in the XGuide
20:20:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: planning for Semantic Markup Deliverables
20:20:36 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Mark_up
20:21:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: let's discuss the content of this page
20:24:06 <mib_vxob0c> Laurent: need to identify non-author reviewers to sections in table
20:26:33 <krzysztof_j> +q
20:27:06 <krzysztof_j> i can do it
20:27:08 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack krzysztof 
20:27:13 <krzysztof_j> but it will be a short section
20:27:21 <mib_vxob0c> Laurent: All, please identify other inputs not currently planned in the report 
20:27:49 <mib_vxob0c> ... e.g. Sapience
20:28:08 <cory> ?q
20:31:46 <mib_vxob0c> Laurent:  "outcomes" as defined in the Semantic Markup table are lessons learned and discussion regarding XML and semantic web languages approach and suitability
20:32:40 <david> david has joined #ssn
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20:36:59 <Payam> ACTION: <name> to ..........
20:36:59 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - <name>
20:37:08 <david2> (sorry lost my irc connection, back)
20:38:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Cory to report on Semantic Markup deliverable status in two weeks
20:38:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Report on Semantic Markup deliverable status in two weeks [on Cory Henson - due 2010-06-09].
20:39:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: planning for Mappings deliverable
20:39:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Mappings_Deliverable
20:40:03 <david2> Laurent: Please volunteer if you are willing to help with the "Mappings Deliverable" (link above)
20:40:03 <cory> note that 2010-06-09 is next week:  "Report on Semantic Markup deliverable status in two weeks [on Cory Henson - due 2010-06-09]"
20:41:53 <david2> Cory:  ACTION-27 should be due 2010-06-16
20:42:43 <cory> ?1
20:42:45 <cory> ?q
20:43:20 <david2> trackbot, comment action-27 due 2010-06-16
20:43:20 <trackbot> ACTION-27 Report on Semantic Markup deliverable status in two weeks notes added
20:45:47 <david2> Discussion of ontology coverage within the Mappings deliverable referencing the worked example (mappings vs. markup ontology discussion)
20:46:14 <david2> Laurent:  Initial, should have a wiki page discussing the ontology mappings
20:46:34 <david2> s/Initial/Intially
20:46:49 <david2> Laurent: use the same example for both the ontology and mapping discussion
20:47:49 <david2> Laurent will update the table on the wiki
20:48:13 <Payam> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:OperatingModel.png
20:48:15 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Progress on Ontology: Operational/survival range  (Payam)
20:48:43 <Arthur> s/Intially/Initially
20:49:06 <david2> thanks :|
20:49:12 <david2> Payam:  Update regarding separation of properties
20:49:43 <michael> +q
20:49:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack michael
20:49:55 <david2> Payam: Device lifetime and battery lifetime - are they both necessary?
20:50:29 <david2> +1, they are different
20:52:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> +q
20:53:07 <david2> Discussion of static vs dynamic lifetime - to time stamp measured value.
20:54:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: can I ask everyone if they can provide input / examples for Payam?
20:55:24 <david2> Laurent:  Requesting someone to assist Payam regarding the boundary for the ontology using a practical case.
20:55:27 <michael> MMI might have some examples
20:56:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: Laurent will create Operation Model wiki for Payam's work   
20:56:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/Model wiki/Model wiki page/
20:56:53 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Laurent
20:56:57 <Payam> +q
20:57:21 <david2> Action: Luis: Provide MMI related use case associated with operating model due 2010-06-09
20:57:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-28 - Provide MMI related use case associated with operating model due 2010-06-09 [on Luis Bermudez - due 2010-06-09].
20:58:23 <michael> +q
20:58:39 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Payam
20:59:09 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack michael
20:59:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: AOB
20:59:31 <david2> Laurent: will update table to provide clarity of group-task
21:00:08 <krzysztof_j> great news, thanks to kerry
21:00:19 <david2> Laurent: Kerry's submission to International Semantic Web Conference has been accepted
21:00:37 <michael> Payam, I'll add to OWL model and we can work on an example together with Luis, sound ok?
21:01:02 <Payam> would be great, thanks
21:02:09 <david2> Laurent: will identify what is done within the XG and what is done outside and by whom
21:04:17 <krzysztof_j> bye
21:04:27 <Zakim> -krzysztof_j
21:04:27 <david2> bye
21:04:29 <cory> bye
21:04:31 <Zakim> -Payam
21:04:31 <michael> bye
21:04:33 <Zakim> -david
21:04:35 <Payam> bye
21:04:35 <Zakim> -michael
21:04:39 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aabb
21:04:50 <Zakim> -Arthur
21:07:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, list attendees
21:07:10 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Payam, Arthur, david, laurent_lefort_cs, [IPcaller], michael, krzysztof_j, +1.937.775.aabb
21:07:36 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
21:07:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:09:46 <laurent_lefort_cs> rssagent, make log public
21:09:50 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, laurent_lefort_cs, in INC_SSN()4:00PM
21:09:54 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has ended
21:09:56 <Zakim> Attendees were Payam, Arthur, david, laurent_lefort_cs, [IPcaller], michael, krzysztof_j, +1.937.775.aabb
21:10:08 <laurent_lefort_cs> rssagent, please draft minutes
21:11:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> rssagent, please generate minutes
21:11:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, bye
21:11:59 <Zakim> Zakim has left #ssn
21:12:37 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, draft minutes
21:12:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:12:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:12:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
23:22:04 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, bye
23:22:04 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-actions.rdf :
23:22:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: <name> to .......... [1]
23:22:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-irc#T20-36-59
23:22:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cory to report on Semantic Markup deliverable status in two weeks [2]
23:22:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-irc#T20-38-50
23:22:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Luis: Provide MMI related use case associated with operating model due 2010-06-09 [3]
23:22:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-irc#T20-57-21