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18:59:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
18:59:09 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:59:10 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
18:59:10 <trackbot> Date: 24 May 2010
18:59:25 <richardschwerdtfe> Zakim, this will be 92473
18:59:25 <Zakim> ok, richardschwerdtfe; I see WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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19:00:03 <Zakim> +Rich
19:00:43 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
19:00:51 <richardschwerdtfe> chair: Rich
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19:01:18 <richardschwerdtfe> meeting: W3C HTML 5 Canvas Accessibility Meeting
19:02:23 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0040.html
19:03:13 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0041.html
19:04:45 <richardschwerdtfe> scribe: Rich
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19:06:26 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0041.html
19:06:46 <richardschwerdtfe> Topic: Apple comments
19:06:48 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0041.html
19:08:50 <Zakim> +??P5
19:10:10 <richardschwerdtfe> Zakim, ??P5 is jongunderson
19:10:10 <Zakim> +jongunderson; got it
19:10:21 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0041.html
19:15:03 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: Operating system accessibility API only provide for rectangles
19:15:52 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: Can we simply provide two x and y coordinates representing lower left and upper right hand coordinate of the rectangle that best fits the shape drawn?
19:15:58 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: Agreed
19:16:06 <richardschwerdtfe> Jon: Agreed
19:16:55 <richardschwerdtfe> Resolution: Use two points providing a best fit shape rectangular shape for the author drawn focus ring
19:19:04 <richardschwerdtfe> Topic: Apple feedback on reporting caret position
19:19:06 <richardschwerdtfe> If the user's zoom level can display the entire selection, it probably should. Most common usage will still be a single caret position, but there should be an option for authors to specify the size, shape, and location of the entire selection range. Also, a single point does not indicate font-size/line-height on the canvas representation of the control. Without the additional information, for example, a magnifier may only display the top-half of th
19:19:06 <richardschwerdtfe> text or line-box on the canvas.
19:19:48 <richardschwerdtfe> Jon: is what selected important:
19:20:10 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: What is selected can be retrieved from the fallback content being mapped
19:20:56 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: Window provides caret tracking
19:21:05 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: Windows provides caret tracking
19:21:21 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: What if the zoom level changes automatically?
19:22:29 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: Windows only zooms on the caret and I feel the caret is sufficient
19:25:04 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: Windows does not have a line height related to a caret position
19:26:53 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: Zoom levels are typically fixed. If the maginifier were to automatically zoom based on the selected text (smaller magnification) that would defeat the purpose of the magnifier
19:28:08 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: I would be happy  with just the point
19:28:55 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: We could provide a rectangle representing the caret ( provide two x and y coordinates). This would cover the height issue James raised.
19:29:08 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: agreed
19:29:12 <richardschwerdtfe> Jon: Agreed
19:29:53 <richardschwerdtfe> Resolution: Change point to a rectangle representing the last drawn caret or selection which includes the height of the text
19:30:54 <richardschwerdtfe> Topic: add cursor shape suggestion?
19:31:01 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: drop
19:31:04 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: drop
19:31:08 <richardschwerdtfe> Jon: drop
19:31:30 <richardschwerdtfe> RESOLUTION: drop addition of cursor shape
19:32:21 <richardschwerdtfe> Topic: Chaals Area Map proposal
19:32:52 <richardschwerdtfe> Frank: I would like to see it as wel
19:32:55 <richardschwerdtfe> well
19:34:20 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: no updated proposal from Charles so will wait another week
19:34:32 <richardschwerdtfe> Rich: I will update the current canvas API draft to reflect today's changes
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19:36:51 <richardschwerdtfe> RRSAgent, draft minutes
19:36:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/24-html-a11y-minutes.html richardschwerdtfe
19:37:53 <Zakim> -jongunderson
19:37:55 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
19:38:05 <richardschwerdtfe> Zakim, bye
19:38:05 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Rich, [Microsoft], jongunderson
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19:38:14 <richardschwerdtfe> RRSAgent, draft minutes
19:38:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/24-html-a11y-minutes.html richardschwerdtfe
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