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16:00:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
16:00:01 <Zakim> HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM
16:00:02 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:00:02 <trackbot> Date: 20 May 2010
16:00:04 <rubys> zakim, this will be HTML_WG
16:00:04 <Zakim> ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:00:09 <rubys> scribe: rubys
16:00:20 <rubys> chair: mjs
16:00:45 <Zakim> +??P16
16:01:07 <Julian> Zakim, +??P16 is me
16:01:07 <Zakim> sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named '+??P16'
16:01:08 <Zakim> +Sam
16:01:14 <Julian> Zakim, P16 is me
16:01:14 <Zakim> sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named 'P16'
16:01:21 <Julian> Zakim, ??P16 is me
16:01:21 <Zakim> +Julian; got it
16:01:23 <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aabb
16:01:53 <Zakim> +dsinger
16:02:11 <rubys> zakim, who is on the call?
16:02:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], +1.732.238.aaaa, Julian, Sam, +1.415.595.aabb, dsinger
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16:02:26 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:02:37 <dsinger__> zakim, mute dsinger
16:02:38 <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
16:02:43 <rubys> zakim, aabb is mjs
16:02:43 <Zakim> +mjs; got it
16:02:46 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:58 <Eliot> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:02:58 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
16:03:29 <Mark> t7732238 is Mark from AT&T
16:03:54 <dsinger__> zakim, who is here?
16:03:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.732.238.aaaa, Julian, Sam, mjs, dsinger (muted), Eliot
16:03:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see dsinger__, Zakim, RRSAgent, Dzung_Tran, Eliot, Mark, AllanJ, mjs, rubys, arronei, tH, Lachy, kliehm, MikeSmith, plh, gavin, miketaylr, aroben, krijnh, kennyluck, drry,
16:03:58 <rubys> zakim, aaaa is Mark from AT&T
16:04:01 <Zakim> ... dsinger, Julian, anne, xover, Fandekasp, karl, Dashiva, Philip, mamund, gavin_, lgombos, phenny, scotfl, CIA-1, syp, ed_work, webben, inimino, jgraham, jmb, gsnedders, Hixie,
16:04:06 <Zakim> ... Shunsuke, johndrinkwater, hober, thugbot, Yudai, pimpbot, hsivonen, trackbot
16:04:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaaa is Mark from AT&T', rubys
16:04:33 <plh> tel:+1.617.258.0992 (Office)
16:04:36 <Mark> 732238 is Mark from at&t 
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16:04:52 <plh> zakim, call plh-work
16:04:52 <Zakim> ok, plh; the call is being made
16:04:53 <dsinger__> Zakim, aaaa is Mark
16:04:53 <Zakim> +Plh
16:04:53 <Zakim> +Mark; got it
16:05:26 <Zakim> +??P2
16:05:40 <rubys> topic: 1. ACTION items due by Thu May 20 
16:05:46 <cyns> Zakim, who is on the phone
16:05:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', cyns
16:05:49 <rubys> mjs: there are none this week
16:05:51 <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka
16:05:58 <cyns> Zakim, who's on the phone
16:06:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's on the phone', cyns
16:06:03 <rubys> topic: 2. Issues with deadlines due by May 20
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16:06:05 <dsinger__> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:06:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mark, Julian, Sam, mjs, dsinger (muted), Eliot, Plh, ??P2, Janina_Sajka
16:06:09 <oedipus> cyns, you need to end with a ? - "Zakim, who is on the phone?"
16:06:17 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:06:22 <cyns> Zakim, P2 is me
16:06:22 <Zakim> sorry, cyns, I do not recognize a party named 'P2'
16:06:35 <cyns> Zakim, ??P2 is me
16:06:35 <Zakim> +cyns; got it
16:06:36 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] has adrianba
16:06:36 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
16:06:50 <rubys> mjs: surveys closed yesterday on issue 66, 90, 91, 93, 95, 96, 97
16:07:01 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
16:07:41 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
16:07:41 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:07:43 <Zakim> +Mike
16:07:44 <rubys> mjs: this covers issue analysis and removing various elements and attributes; chairs will be reviewing the responses, the changes proposals, and any relevant emails
16:07:44 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
16:07:51 <MikeSmith> Zakim, MikeSmith is me
16:07:51 <Zakim> sorry, MikeSmith, I do not recognize a party named 'MikeSmith'
16:08:00 <MikeSmith> Zakim, Mike is me
16:08:02 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
16:08:45 <MikeSmith> issue-103?
16:08:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open
16:08:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103
16:08:46 <rubys> mjs: four items calls for counter proposal due today: issues 89, 92, 103, 107; Tab volunteered for 89 and 92.  No volunteers for 103 or 107.
16:08:46 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:09:01 <MikeSmith> issue-107?
16:09:01 <trackbot> ISSUE-107 -- Politics in fallback example for plugin usage -- open
16:09:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/107
16:09:02 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-107 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:09:16 <rubys> mjs: make sure that if you have an interest in these issues, volunteer
16:09:18 <mjs> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
16:09:19 <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
16:09:34 <rubys> mjs: questions or comments?
16:09:43 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
16:09:43 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
16:09:48 <rubys> topic: 3. Items that close next week (by Thu May 28) 
16:10:24 <rubys> mjs: may 27th the Accessiblity Task Force will submit a requirement document
16:10:32 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements
16:10:33 <pimpbot> Title: Media Accessibility Requirements - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
16:10:38 <rubys> mjs: due on may 28th:
16:10:55 <rubys> mjs: ... issue-109, a change proposal is due from Steve Faulkner
16:11:35 <MikeSmith> s/requirement document/media accessibility requirements document/
16:11:43 <rubys> mjs: ... nobody has volunteered for issue-111, issue-112, issue-113, issue-114, issue-115
16:11:50 <mjs> issue-111?
16:11:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-111 -- What does input.@required mean for @type = checkbox? -- raised
16:11:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/111
16:11:52 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-111 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:11:55 <mjs> issue-112>
16:11:58 <mjs> issue-112?
16:11:58 <trackbot> ISSUE-112 -- negative keywords-not meta tags -- raised
16:11:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/112
16:11:59 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-112 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:02 <mjs> issue-113?
16:12:02 <trackbot> ISSUE-113 -- add a preventable forced-fragment method -- raised
16:12:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/113
16:12:03 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-113 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:05 <mjs> issue-114?
16:12:05 <trackbot> ISSUE-114 -- link tag: rel: associate pages about the same organization across many sites for searches without a canonical page and despite a confusingly indistinct name -- raised
16:12:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/114
16:12:07 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-114 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:08 <mjs> issue-115?
16:12:10 <trackbot> ISSUE-115 -- link tag: rel: associate pages about the same person across many sites for searches without a canonical page and despite a confusingly indistinct name -- raised
16:12:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/115
16:12:14 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-115 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:22 <rubys> mjs: questions or comments?
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16:12:37 <rubys> topic: 4. New Issues This Week
16:12:47 <rubys> mjs: there are no newly raised issues this week
16:12:57 <rubys> topic: 5. New Calls for Proposals/Counter Proposals/Consensus this Week 
16:13:11 <rubys> issue-86?
16:13:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-86 -- HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability -- open
16:13:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/86
16:13:13 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-86 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:13:20 <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
16:13:51 <rubys> mjs: call for consensus to adopt the removal of Atom generation.  Tab previously objected, but no longer does, so we are looking for consensus.  
16:14:03 <rubys> topic: 6. WG Decision Policy update
16:14:21 <rubys> mjs: revisions are nearly done.  By next week there should be something available for the working group to discuss.
16:14:35 <rubys> mjs: questions or comments?
16:14:49 <rubys> topic: 7. Heartbeat Working Drafts & First Public Working Drafts 
16:15:21 <rubys> mjs: the chairs would like to beat the 3 month cycle this time.  If you don't object, you don't have to reply.
16:15:37 <rubys> mjs: we would like to republish the same six drafts as heartbeat drafts
16:15:51 <rubys>     HTML 5: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/     HTML+RDFa: http://dev.w3.org/html5/rdfa/     HTML Microdata: http://dev.w3.org/html5/md/     HTML Canvas 2D Context: http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/     HTML: The Markup Language: http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/     HTML5 Differences from HTML4: http://dev.w3.org/html5/html4-differences/ 
16:15:52 <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at dev.w3.org)
16:16:40 <rubys> mjs: two proposals for first public working drafts: HTML/XHTML compat (a.k.a., "polyglot")...
16:16:59 <rubys> mjs: I encourage people to review and file bugs
16:17:18 <oedipus> http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
16:17:19 <rubys> mjs: second draft is for techniques for providing useful text alternatives
16:17:19 <pimpbot> Title: HTML5: Techniques for the provision of text alternatives (at dev.w3.org)
16:17:30 <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtml-author-guide/html-xhtml-authoring-guide.html
16:17:31 <pimpbot> Title: HTML/XHTML Compatibility Authoring Guidelines (at dev.w3.org)
16:17:34 <rubys> mjs: questions or comments?
16:17:36 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-66-objection-poll/results
16:17:37 <pimpbot> Title: Results of Questionnaire ISSUE-66 - Image Analysis Heuristics - Straw Poll for Objections - Web-Based Straw-poll and Balloting System (at www.w3.org)
16:18:01 <rubys> topic: 8. Other Business 
16:18:07 <rubys> mjs: any other business?
16:18:28 <rubys> topic: 9. Scribe for next meeting
16:18:48 <rubys> mjs: I encourage folks to volunteer
16:19:04 <rubys> mjs: thank you plh for volunteering
16:19:14 <rubys> topic:  10. Adjournment 
16:19:38 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:19:40 <Zakim> -Plh
16:19:41 <rubys> mjs: I hope that the quick meeting means that communications have been clear
16:19:41 <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
16:19:42 <Zakim> -mjs
16:19:42 <Zakim> -cyns
16:19:44 <MikeSmith> Zakim, drop Mike
16:19:44 <Zakim> MikeSmith is being disconnected
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16:19:46 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
16:19:46 <Zakim> -Julian
16:19:47 <Zakim> -Eliot
16:19:47 <Zakim> -Mark
16:19:50 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
16:19:51 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:19:55 <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
16:19:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
16:19:57 <Zakim> -dsinger
16:19:57 <Laura> bye
16:22:05 <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
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16:41:55 <pimpbot> planet: How do i play H264 video? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2789838/how-do-i-play-h264-video>
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17:17:51 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:17:53 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.732.238.aaaa, Sam, Julian, +1.415.595.aabb, dsinger, mjs, Eliot, Plh, Mark, Janina_Sajka, cyns, adrianba, Michael_Cooper, Gregory_Rosmaita, MikeSmith,
17:17:55 <Zakim> ... Laura_Carlson
17:18:08 <plh> zakim, bye
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17:48:12 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9782] New: This could be a valuable addition to the textarea element as well <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0410.html>
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18:42:23 <pimpbot> planet: Audio input via HTML5? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2876329/audio-input-via-html5> 4** An Open Web App Store <11http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2010/05/20/an-open-web-app-store/> 4** Updated WebKit SDK (@r59726) <11http://whtconstruct.blogspot.com/2010/05/updated-webkit-sdk-r59726.html>
18:48:25 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9771] It's slightly strange that the Tokenizer keeps changing the "insertion mode" which appears to be parser-state. eric@webkit.org <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0411.html>
19:18:33 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if IE has a sane condition for ignoring it <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0412.html>
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19:42:38 <pimpbot> planet: Next revision of Dive Into HTML5 video chapter will use and recommend http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody/test.html <11http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/14378963477> 4** “Video For Everybody” Test Page <11http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody/test.html>
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19:48:40 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9783] New: I'd like to see a short explanation of online white list in this section and a link where it's used the first time. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010May/0413.html>
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20:42:51 <pimpbot> planet: Learning HTML 5 <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1494451/learning-html-5> 4** Who is using Websocket and why? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2877337/who-is-using-websocket-and-why> 4** How to write backwards compatible HTML5 ? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2674655/how-to-write-backwards-compatible-html5>
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21:43:05 <pimpbot> planet: Websocket vs Ajax vs cometd <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2877337/websocket-vs-ajax-vs-cometd>
21:49:07 <pimpbot> changes: eliot: Updated publication date <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0103.html> 4** eliot: Updated 5.2.3 Attribute Values and included list of values that must be lower case; fixed typo in 5.1; in 5.3 removed white space from <p> </p>; <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0102.html>
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22:43:16 <pimpbot> planet: Dive Into HTML5 video, now with WebM compatibility tables and a WebM encoding guide: http://diveintohtml5.org/video.html <11http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/14388026836> 4** deprecating html5-video.js <11http://hg.diveintohtml5.org/hgweb.cgi/rev/aaf2fbd9c273d6458963126a0640eeaa32e8559a>
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23:43:31 <pimpbot> planet: What are some methods to debug Javascript inside of a UIWebView? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2767902/what-are-some-methods-to-debug-javascript-inside-of-a-uiwebview> 4** Bug in iPad's html5 canvas drawimage() implementation? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2878580/bug-in-ipads-html5-canvas-drawimage-implementation>
23:49:32 <pimpbot> changes: sam: Move issues 76 poll link into the table; link to results <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010May/0104.html>