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15:54:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SJMS
15:54:49 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
15:54:50 <trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
15:54:50 <trackbot> Date: 18 May 2010
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16:00:50 <mphillip> genda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010May/0018.html
16:01:00 <mphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010May/0018.html
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16:01:39 <padams> Zakim, who is here?
16:01:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see alewis, padams, Derek
16:01:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see padams, Derek, Zakim, RRSAgent, mphillip, alewis, Yves, trackbot
16:02:02 <Zakim> + +0196287aabb
16:02:11 <mphillip> zakim, aabb is Mark
16:02:11 <Zakim> +Mark; got it
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16:03:45 <mphillip> Chair: Eric
16:04:39 <Zakim> -padams
16:04:41 <mphillip> Topic: 1) Appointment of the scribe
16:04:46 <mphillip> scribe: Mark
16:04:57 <mphillip> Topic: 2) Approval of prior meeting minutes
16:06:39 <mphillip> Topic: Review the Agenda 
16:06:56 <mphillip> Topic: Review action items
16:06:58 <Zakim> + +1.512.750.aacc
16:07:14 <mphillip> Mark: No progress on 148 and 154
16:08:43 <mphillip> Peter: 163 (Contact people who are committing changes related to SOAP/JMS for  the Apache CXF ) believe this is closed - Peter has been raising Jiras against CXF
16:08:49 <mphillip> close action-163
16:08:49 <trackbot> ACTION-163 Contact people who are committing changes related to SOAP/JMS for the Apache CXF project closed
16:09:20 <mphillip> Eric: 166 - URI has been republished 
16:09:25 <mphillip> close action-166
16:09:25 <trackbot> ACTION-166 Update the URI RFC and republish, then resubmit to IETF review mailing list closed
16:10:17 <mphillip> Eric: 167 - have sent mail to Yves.  Yves is comfortable with the idea that we could move WSDL 2  section to a non-normative appendix
16:10:23 <mphillip> close action-167
16:10:24 <trackbot> ACTION-167 Talk to Yves about possibility of making WSDL 2.0 section non-normative closed
16:10:45 <mphillip> TOPIC: URI Specification
16:11:24 <mphillip> ...has been posted to URI review list with the older IETF language
16:12:18 <mphillip> Eric: URI specification is now stored in mercurial repository - email Eric to get a link to the Trunk
16:12:49 <mphillip> Eric: Minor changes made to date and to fix namespacing of some example URIs 
16:12:54 <eric> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-merrick-jms-uri-07.txt  
16:15:07 <mphillip> Eric: Open issue 27 and action 146 cover the final part - to update the binding spec to point to latest draft
16:15:31 <mphillip> Topic: Raised issues
16:16:34 <mphillip> Issue 29 needs a note from me to the list - will not involve spec. changes, but may be FAQ changes
16:16:53 <mphillip> Peter: New issues 34-37
16:17:23 <mphillip> Eric: How do we want to track/treat issues with test cases?
16:18:58 <mphillip> Peter: Would be happy to treat them as action items rather than issues if that is easier
16:20:44 <mphillip> Eric: We probably don't need the full 4-step Issue workflow to change test cases -would be OK to discuss, then raise action items and fix them 
16:22:01 <mphillip> Eric: then we review the change at the next meeting
16:22:24 <mphillip> All: No problems with the lightweight process for test case changes
16:23:19 <mphillip> Peter: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/34 - we need schema for the SOAP faults
16:24:49 <mphillip> Eric: We have schema in Appendix B 
16:25:02 <mphillip> Mark: But that just covers the properties
16:25:31 <eric> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#binding-faults
16:25:38 <mphillip> Peter: This XML schema is based on the way that WS-Addressing defines faults
16:26:13 <mphillip> Eric: 2 problems with faults - described differently between SOAP 1.1 and 1.2 
16:27:59 <mphillip> Eric: For SOAP 1.1 we would need to define elements in the schema
16:28:15 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: No objection to opening Issue 34
16:29:38 <mphillip> Peter: Issue 35 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/35 - tests exploring WSDL precedence use the wrong value for delivery mode PERSISTENT
16:30:25 <mphillip> Peter: Should be 2 http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/api/constant-values.html#javax.jms.DeliveryMode.NON_PERSISTENT
16:30:57 <peaston> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/testcases/testcases.html#test0013
16:32:22 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: No objection to opening Issue 35
16:32:47 <mphillip> Peter: Issue 36 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/36
16:33:43 <peaston> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/testcases/testcases.html#test1103
16:37:31 <mphillip> Peter: There's a reference to Protocol-2013 which has been removed and Protocol-2012 which does not appear relevant to this testcase 
16:39:06 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: No objection to opening Issue 36
16:39:15 <mphillip> Peter: Issue 37 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/37
16:40:01 <mphillip> Peter: We should have some positive tests for SOAP 1.2
16:40:41 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: No objection to opening Issue 37
16:41:34 <mphillip> TOPIC: 7) Accepting proposals to close open issues
16:42:04 <mphillip> Eric: Issue 34 needs a more detailed proposal
16:43:25 <mphillip> Peter: Agreed - SOAP 1.1 will need some special treatment
16:43:44 <mphillip> action Peter to develop a more detailed proposal for issue 34
16:43:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-168 - Develop a more detailed proposal for issue 34 [on Peter Easton - due 2010-05-25].
16:43:47 <Zakim> -alewis
16:44:25 <mphillip> Eric: It would be worth adding some text to indicate that it follows the pattern used by WS-Addressing
16:46:26 <mphillip> Peter: happy to take an action item to apply resolutions for Issues 35-37
16:46:42 <mphillip> action Peter to apply resolutions for Issues 35-37
16:46:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-169 - Apply resolutions for Issues 35-37 [on Peter Easton - due 2010-05-25].
16:46:59 <mphillip> Topic: Accepting applied resolutions 
16:47:00 <mphillip> None
16:47:05 <mphillip> Topic: Moving to PR
16:47:38 <mphillip> Eric: Need to finish Issue 27
16:48:47 <mphillip> Eric: We need the WSDL 2 changes - to tka the text and make it a non-normative section
16:51:28 <mphillip> This would involve removing assertions (if there are any), and adding a brief paragraph 
16:52:16 <mphillip> Action Eric to raise an Issue proposing the move  of the WSDL 2 section to the appendix
16:52:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Raise an Issue proposing the move  of the WSDL 2 section to the appendix [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-05-25].
16:52:55 <mphillip> Topic: AOB
16:53:50 <mphillip> None
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16:54:11 <mphillip> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:54:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip
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