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11:03:03 <fsasaki> meeting: MAWG
11:03:09 <fsasaki> chair: Daniel
11:03:35 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010May/0030.html
11:03:37 <Zakim> +wonsuk
11:04:09 <joakim> Scribe: Joakim
11:04:38 <daniel> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html
11:04:45 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
11:05:02 <daniel> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-mediaann-minutes.html
11:05:03 <joakim> Topic: Minutes from last meeting
11:05:49 <joakim> Minutes from last meeting approved
11:06:09 <joakim> Next telecon June 25
11:06:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
11:06:56 <joakim> Topic: Open Actions Items
11:07:10 <fsasaki> present: Joakim, wonsuk, daniel, john, fsasaki
11:07:39 <joakim> Regrets: Werner, Tobias
11:08:06 <fsasaki> regrets+ florian
11:08:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
11:08:13 <joakim> Keep Action 214 open
11:09:15 <joakim> close: 225
11:09:29 <joakim> close Action- 225
11:09:36 <joakim> close: Action-225
11:09:50 <fsasaki> close ACTION-225
11:09:50 <trackbot> ACTION-225 Inclusion of mapping table into ontology document closed
11:11:24 <joakim> 234 keep open
11:11:33 <joakim> close: ACTION-236
11:11:37 <joakim> close ACTION-236
11:11:37 <trackbot> ACTION-236 Make table 4.1.2 same format as the mapping table (using the same template) closed
11:12:20 <joakim> close ACTION-237
11:12:20 <trackbot> ACTION-237 examples missing for getDiagnosis, getOriginalData, getSourceFormatsWithValues, selectMAResource closed
11:12:29 <joakim> close ACTION-238
11:12:29 <trackbot> ACTION-238 Add example regarding column 11 closed
11:12:39 <fsasaki> present+ chris
11:12:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
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11:13:38 <joakim> close ACTION-250
11:13:38 <trackbot> ACTION-250 Prepare a document containing the examples from thes introduction (to be used for test cases) closed
11:14:13 <Zakim> +[VrijeUni]
11:14:22 <joakim> close ACTION-251
11:14:22 <trackbot> ACTION-251 Supply jpeg images with exif closed
11:14:35 <veronique> zakim, +[VrijeUni] is me
11:14:35 <Zakim> sorry, veronique, I do not recognize a party named '+[VrijeUni]'
11:14:39 <joakim> present+ Veronique
11:15:12 <veronique> zakim, VrijeUni is me
11:15:12 <Zakim> +veronique; got it
11:15:20 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/NightOnEarthMPEG7
11:15:31 <joakim> close ACTION-253
11:15:31 <trackbot> ACTION-253 Provide mpeg-7 describing a movie closed
11:16:52 <joakim> Topic: Status of Ontology Doc
11:18:05 <wonsuk> The diff version between the result of Vienna f2f meeting and the last one: http://tinyurl.com/2er68a5
11:18:10 <joakim> Daniel: to communicate with thierry regarding publication
11:18:17 <fsasaki> felix: for LC preparation you need to have a record of a vote for the LC publication, and somebody to prepare the document. That will be Thierry I guess
11:18:36 <fsasaki> s/felix:/Felix:/
11:19:30 <veronique> I still don't understand what this means (identifier:URI), (type:String)
11:19:37 <daniel> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html
11:23:22 <joakim> Wonsuk: Has incorprated the text från John and Joakim into the ontology
11:24:33 <joakim> Veronique: Do we really define an ontology according to the definition?
11:25:46 <fsasaki> +1 to Veronique's proposal
11:25:52 <joakim> Veronique: Add one sentence to the definition that explains the difference between the scientific meaning of an ontology to what we present
11:26:41 <joakim> Veronique: Will send a sentence to the mailing list later to day!
11:27:23 <joakim> Q: do we have to cerate an URL to our namespace?
11:27:43 <fsasaki> Felix: you need to create a namespace document
11:27:57 <fsasaki> I will paste the URI for the explanation in IRC in a second 
11:28:10 <fsasaki> Felix: Thierry should also take care of that
11:28:19 <joakim> But we can do that after LC?
11:28:39 <fsasaki> Felix: no, normally not
11:28:47 <fsasaki> Felix: better check with Thierry
11:29:19 <joakim> action: Joakim to create a namespace doc
11:29:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-259 - Create a namespace doc [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2010-05-25].
11:29:33 <fsasaki> Felix: document about namespace documents is at http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri
11:30:40 <Zakim> -Felix
11:30:40 <joakim> veronique: why do we want represent position with lon,lat
11:31:52 <joakim> veronique: don't understand: maidentifier format
11:32:08 <joakim> Explain Chris, Wonsuk
11:35:19 <joakim> veronique: should altidude not be optional!
11:35:26 <joakim> Wonsuk: it is!
11:36:57 <joakim> werner and wonsuk have added some explanation for the sub-type in 4.2.
11:37:23 <joakim> added a short senctnece about the API doc
11:37:52 <joakim> Wonsuk has integrated the mapping pages as static pages into the doc
11:41:27 <joakim> I dont have MAYA set up on my new computer
11:41:38 <joakim> Can someone help out?
11:41:59 <joakim> Thanks Wonsuk:-)
11:42:42 <joakim> Problem with CL and EBU tables
11:43:56 <joakim> Wonsuk revised the references by moving some ref from nor to non-nor
11:44:50 <joakim> Daniel: Issues about the Onotology Doc: small sentence from Ver and remove empty columns!
11:44:54 <joakim> any more issues?
11:45:15 <joakim> John should elaborate on the conformance part
11:45:50 <veronique> "In this recommendation, the vocabulary in question is the list of core properties (relationships) defined in the ma namespace, and the machine-readable format is not specified here: the recommendation provides a simple text description and definition of the relationships. An implementation of the vocabulary in RDF has been developed in the MAWG RDF? task force [REF]. Implementations in different formats are nevertheless allowed."
11:45:50 <joakim> There are two AP that John will carry out when Wonsuk is ready
11:46:00 <veronique> how about this ad-on?
11:46:06 <joakim> is it possible to this week
11:46:25 <joakim> Johan: Possibly during the weekend
11:47:33 <joakim> Topic: Status on API doc
11:47:51 <daniel> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html
11:48:27 <joakim> what has change in the last version, is that Chris has added examples on how to use the API
11:49:02 <joakim> now the outline is: introduction, how it works, the we list all the interfaces and for each we give an example
11:49:13 <joakim> examples are in JS and as for a WS
11:49:46 <joakim> have added the error codes to the document
11:50:12 <joakim> According to Chris the Doc is ready for LC,
11:50:45 <joakim> his only concern is that it doesn't look good in IE
11:51:43 <joakim> Wonsuk: DAP: Usually update the draft, but when they publish they do some differetn version for publication, so IE can read that version
11:52:19 <joakim> action: Joakim to ask thierry of how to make a version that works woth IE
11:52:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-260 - Ask thierry of how to make a version that works woth IE [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2010-05-25].
11:52:59 <joakim> wonsuk: there are some errors in the document, check that with W3C team contact
11:53:30 <joakim> Daniel: we need some (HTML) validation of our document before going to LC
11:54:36 <joakim> Daniel and Joakim will contact THIERRY for validation before LC
11:55:36 <joakim> Daniel: are there any other open issues
11:56:41 <joakim> Some open issues before LC. ontology: english improvement by John, sentence from Veronique, mapping table errors 
11:57:11 <joakim> API: is ok, but has to be HTML validated 
11:57:35 <joakim> Wonsuk can yoy please add Ver sentence to the ontology doc?
11:57:54 <joakim> thanks!
11:58:00 <joakim> AOB`?
11:58:14 <joakim> meeting to be adjourned!
11:58:23 <Zakim> -johnS
11:58:26 <Zakim> - +0329331aaaa
11:58:27 <Zakim> -wonsuk
11:58:28 <Zakim> -??P4
11:58:30 <Zakim> -veronique
11:58:41 <joakim> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:58:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html joakim
11:59:44 <Zakim> -joakim
11:59:45 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()7:00AM has ended
11:59:47 <Zakim> Attendees were +0329331aaaa, joakim, wonsuk, [IPcaller], Felix, johnS, veronique
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