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09:01:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
09:01:34 <trackbot> Date: 05 May 2010
09:02:17 <raphael> Chair: Raphael
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09:02:38 <raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0005.html
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09:03:15 <raphael> Regrets: Michael, Jack, Conrad, Davy
09:03:16 <Zakim> + +0329331aabb
09:15:02 <raphael> Raphael: 15 min waiting, no sign of Yves, all others have sent regrets :-(
09:15:12 <raphael> ... no need for Silvia for dialing 
09:15:20 <raphael> ... suggest to cancel the telecon
09:15:30 <raphael> ... express deep concern about the lack of progress
09:15:43 <raphael> ... 14 overdue actions, how should we deal with that?
09:15:50 <silvia> you will need to chase up ppl directly
09:16:09 <silvia> not just through the meeting, but during the week
09:16:15 <silvia> it's not happening otherwise
09:16:32 <silvia> I guess that's part of a chair's job, as unfortunate as it is
09:17:00 <silvia> btw: how was the conference?
09:18:25 <raphael> Erik and I did chase the people all over this week ... emailing and phoning!
09:18:34 <silvia> oh wow
09:18:44 <silvia> can some actions be re-distributed?
09:18:46 <raphael> It is not enough apparently :-(
09:18:55 <raphael> This is what I think we should do
09:19:19 <raphael> Yves is apparently in forced holidays until end of May ... but told us he would be able to work anyway
09:19:47 <raphael> The WWW conference was great, media fragments was presented twice, during the Developer's Track and during the HTML5 track
09:20:08 <raphael> ... slides are online: http://www.slideshare.net/troncy/implementing-the-media-fragments-uri-specification
09:20:32 <silvia> good feedback?
09:20:36 <raphael> ... Davy made twice the Ninsuna demo
09:20:50 <silvia> did you present all cases, also the one Yves is still working on?
09:21:12 <silvia> ohhhh - you should have put the Mozilla logo on for me, not Vquence
09:21:16 <silvia> but never mind :)
09:21:28 <raphael> ... very good feedback from the participants, yes we present the 4 scenarios
09:22:23 <silvia> any concerns by ppl?
09:23:01 <Zakim> -Erik
09:23:03 <Zakim> - +49.300.aaaa
09:23:04 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended
09:23:06 <Zakim> Attendees were +49.300.aaaa, +0329331aabb, Erik
09:23:09 <raphael> [meeting adjourned]
09:23:25 <raphael> people were enthousiastic with the work done
09:23:43 <silvia> excellent
09:23:48 <raphael> ... I have also shown the Firefox plugin we are developing in EURECOM, and that I hope to release very soon
09:24:00 <silvia> could Davy record his demo and publish the screencast somewhere (youtube?)
09:24:13 <silvia> oh nice!
09:24:20 <silvia> same request there - do make a screencast!
09:24:34 <raphael> ... we had another great idea with Davy: that I could have a parameter in my plugin to proxy the request for media fragments towards Ninsuna
09:25:04 <raphael> ... so that for any videos, if you decide to proxy it ... then you can get Ninunsa serving you media fragments of any videos
09:25:23 <raphael> ... of course, if ALl the web does that, poor Davy's mcahine will be killed, but for a demo purpose, it could be great
09:25:37 <raphael> ... good idea for the screencast, I believe indeed we should make one
09:26:05 <silvia> hahaha - poor Davy!
09:27:05 <silvia> yeah, screencasts will give you exposure to a larger audience
09:27:12 <silvia> they will also explain better what should happen
09:27:24 <silvia> I think it will be easy to explain to the browser vendors what to implement
09:27:41 <silvia> I'd just like to resolve to error cases before moving it forward
09:28:00 <silvia> I might start an email discussion on the mailing list for it - seems that might get us a little progress at least
09:28:08 <raphael> yep, I mention a patch currently submitted to Mozilla by Dailymotion for better interaction with the media player of the browser if receiving just video fragment
09:28:29 <raphael> I will comment as well on your action 161
09:28:33 <raphael> tonight most likely
09:28:56 <raphael> need to get some work done! and more important, get in touch with Yves to see whether we should re-allocate his actions NOW or not
09:29:19 <silvia> yeah - I'd be happy to work on some of them
09:29:29 <silvia> what's Dailymotion's patch?
09:29:43 <silvia> it implements media fragments?
09:30:20 <raphael> yeah, before we made it :-)
09:30:38 <raphael> Dailymotion has made its implementation of media fragments, slightly different syntax, and keep it secret :-)
09:30:53 <raphael> now, they will be full W3C spec compliant
09:31:13 <silvia> oh! how is it different?
09:31:19 <raphael> ... they submitted a patch a year ago to mozilla, for the issues we are talking about, but the patch has not yet been included in the main release
09:31:30 <raphael> I need to find the number and relaunch the process, I'm working on that with DM
09:31:37 <silvia> cool
09:31:54 <silvia> I can get the right ppl to look at it if you point me to it
09:32:22 <raphael> ok, good to know, I will first find the patch in the mozilla trunk and then, once I got the URI, get in touch with you :-)
09:32:34 <silvia> cool
09:32:49 <silvia> caption support is going into HTML5 as we speak
09:32:50 <raphael> my student, developing the media fragments ff plugin, might ask you some questions too
09:32:56 <silvia> chapter tracks, too
09:32:58 <raphael> yep, I noticed the news :-)
09:33:00 <silvia> and the javascript api
09:33:06 <silvia> then we will be able to address by name, too
09:33:07 <raphael> wonderful, it is moving forward
09:33:22 <silvia> sure, go ahead with any questions
09:33:54 <raphael> great, I let you have your dinner, I need to have some work _done_ :-)
09:34:03 <raphael> Talk to you next week, hopefully !
09:34:03 <silvia> just prepared the schnitzel
09:34:07 <silvia> will now have to cook them!
09:34:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
09:34:16 <silvia> yeah - let's hope we have some progress then
09:34:19 <silvia> ciao!
09:34:45 <raphael> scribenick: raphael
09:34:51 <silvia> good talking with you, btw ;)
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09:37:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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12:29:27 <raphael> RRSAgent, bye
12:29:27 <RRSAgent> I see no action items