14:59:15 RRSAgent has joined #prov-xg 14:59:15 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/30-prov-xg-irc 14:59:17 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:59:17 Zakim has joined #prov-xg 14:59:19 Zakim, this will be 98765 14:59:19 ok, trackbot; I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute 14:59:20 Meeting: Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference 14:59:20 Date: 30 April 2010 14:59:33 rrsagent, make logs public 14:59:44 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:59:44 INC_PROVXG()11:00AM has not yet started, kai 14:59:45 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Jose_, JimM, kai, smiles, SamCoppens, Yolanda, Irini, trackbot 15:00:10 Paulo has joined #prov-xg 15:00:12 Zakim, this will be inc_provxg 15:00:12 ok, Yolanda, I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM already started 15:00:20 +Irini 15:00:22 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:00:22 On the phone I see Yolanda, ??P1, ??P2, +49.621.181.aabb, +1.619.524.aacc, Yogesh, +1.614.764.aadd, Irini 15:00:37 zakim, +49.621.181.aabb is really me 15:00:37 +kai; got it 15:00:44 + +03491334aaee 15:01:04 jun has joined #prov-xg 15:01:04 michaelp has joined #prov-xg 15:01:06 zakim, who is making noise? 15:01:07 Yogesh has joined #prov-xg 15:01:18 Yolanda, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yolanda (5%), ??P1 (9%), ??P2 (9%) 15:01:39 zakim, who's on the phone? 15:01:39 On the phone I see Yolanda, ??P1, ??P2, kai, +1.619.524.aacc, Yogesh, +1.614.764.aadd, Irini, +03491334aaee 15:01:42 + +1.915.603.aaff 15:01:44 zakim, who is making noise? 15:01:46 + +1.217.417.aagg 15:01:56 Yolanda, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yolanda (47%), ??P1 (66%), ??P11 (8%) 15:02:20 zakim, mute me 15:02:20 sorry, SamCoppens, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 15:02:33 zakim, mute KimM 15:02:33 sorry, Yolanda, I do not know which phone connection belongs to KimM 15:02:38 zakim, mute me 15:02:38 Yogesh should now be muted 15:02:50 zakim, mute +1.217.417.aagg 15:02:50 +1.217.417.aagg should now be muted 15:02:56 JimM is muted 15:03:17 zakim, who is muted? 15:03:17 I see kai, Yogesh, michaelp, +1.217.417.aagg muted 15:03:36 SamCoppens has left #prov-xg 15:03:40 SamCoppens has joined #prov-xg 15:03:52 I think the static comes from ??P1. 15:04:12 -Irini 15:04:26 61# 15:04:32 is the code for the phone 15:04:37 +[IPcaller] 15:04:43 zakim, mute me 15:04:43 sorry, SamCoppens, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 15:04:52 zakim, who is muted? 15:04:52 I see Yogesh, michaelp, +1.217.417.aagg muted 15:04:54 Luc has joined #prov-xg 15:05:25 zakim, mute me 15:05:25 sorry, Luc, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 15:06:03 jcheney has joined #prov-xg 15:06:04 * zakim, who is muted? 15:06:18 zakim, unmute me 15:06:18 Yogesh should no longer be muted 15:06:31 zakim, who is on the phone 15:06:31 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Luc 15:07:01 zakim, who is muted? 15:07:01 I see ??P2, kai, michaelp, +1.217.417.aagg muted 15:07:18 zakim, ??P2 is smiles 15:07:18 +smiles; got it 15:08:00 +??P15 15:08:05 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Prov_XG_Live#Face_to_Face_Meeting_April_25-26.2C_2010 15:08:12 zakim, ??P15 is me 15:08:12 +jcheney; got it 15:09:43 Jose_ has joined #prov-xg 15:12:52 + +1.518.763.aahh 15:13:19 zakim, who is here? 15:13:19 On the phone I see Yolanda, ??P1, smiles (muted), kai (muted), +1.619.524.aacc, Yogesh, michaelp (muted), +03491334aaee, +1.915.603.aaff, +1.217.417.aagg (muted), [IPcaller], 15:13:22 ... jcheney, +1.518.763.aahh 15:13:24 On IRC I see Jose_, jcheney, Luc, SamCoppens, Yogesh, michaelp, Paulo, Zakim, RRSAgent, JimM, kai, smiles, Yolanda, Irini, trackbot 15:14:21 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Provenance_Vocabulary_Mappings 15:19:04 Since the number of terms is limited, perhaps w could have terms in the columns and the vocabularies and current columns as rows? 15:19:30 q+ 15:19:36 Just thinking I'd like to scan across all vocabs to see which have what mappings and scrolling sideways through many vocabs seems harder 15:19:54 +q 15:20:16 zakim, unmute +1.217.417.aagg 15:20:16 +1.217.417.aagg should no longer be muted 15:20:33 i second that, wanted to mention the same 15:20:37 q+ 15:20:49 ack michaelp 15:21:42 ack Paulo 15:21:49 ack Jose_ 15:22:00 +q 15:22:23 ack smiles 15:24:12 just to capture my concern: how one can understand the semantics of, for example, opm:Agent so that we can map to terms on other models 15:25:55 q+ 15:27:14 q- 15:27:31 q+ 15:28:56 ack Paulo 15:30:13 q+ 15:31:04 ack JimM 15:32:04 + +1.518.276.aaii 15:32:08 - +1.518.763.aahh 15:32:08 q+ 15:32:13 q- 15:33:20 DeborahMcG has joined #prov-xg 15:33:33 scenario details are in: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_News_Aggregator_Scenario 15:34:16 sorry Paulo, i needed to move on 15:34:21 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_News_Aggregator_Scenario 15:35:25 +Irini 15:36:15 Zakim, +03491334aaee is Jose_ 15:36:15 +Jose_; got it 15:38:57 note that the tech requs in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Requirements have the same ids as in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_News_Aggregator_Scenario 15:39:28 and yet we changed the description of the requirement so it would be more clear 15:43:05 i will point a student to it. i will let you know if the timing works 15:50:38 - +1.619.524.aacc 15:51:21 DeborahMcG has joined #prov-xg 15:53:13 q+ 15:53:25 ack Paulo 15:53:26 definitely it is interesting 15:53:28 ack smiles 15:55:32 Related announcement - IPAW is accepting late breaking submissions for posters and/or demos. http://tw.rpi.edu/portal/IPAW2010/cflbc. also registration will go up next week. 15:55:35 +q 16:02:19 we had discussed considering a mini f2f co-located with ipaw or semtech - is either happening? 16:04:19 q+ 16:06:37 ack DeborahMcG 16:06:47 ack Jose_ 16:07:20 -[IPcaller] 16:08:02 Yogesh has left #prov-xg 16:09:03 -Yolanda 16:09:04 - +1.217.417.aagg 16:09:04 -Yogesh 16:09:05 -Irini 16:09:06 - +1.915.603.aaff 16:09:07 -smiles 16:09:07 -kai 16:09:08 -??P1 16:09:10 -jcheney 16:09:12 -Jose_ 16:09:14 -michaelp 16:09:20 - +1.518.276.aaii 16:09:21 michaelp has left #prov-xg 16:09:21 INC_PROVXG()11:00AM has ended 16:09:23 Attendees were Yolanda, +49.621.181.aaaa, +1.619.524.aacc, Yogesh, Irini, kai, +1.915.603.aaff, +1.217.417.aagg, michaelp, [IPcaller], smiles, jcheney, +1.518.763.aahh, 16:09:25 ... +1.518.276.aaii, Jose_ 16:10:02 jcheney has left #prov-xg 16:10:22 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-prov/2010Apr/0022.html 16:10:50 rrsagent, set log public 16:10:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:10:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/30-prov-xg-minutes.html Yolanda 18:29:56 Zakim has left #prov-xg