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18:00:20 RRSAgent has joined #webapps 18:00:20 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-irc 18:00:22 RRSAgent, make logs public 18:00:22 Zakim has joined #webapps 18:00:24 Zakim, this will be DOM3 18:00:24 ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start now 18:00:25 Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference 18:00:25 Date: 21 April 2010 18:00:33 Zakim, call shepazu 18:00:33 ok, shepazu; the call is being made 18:00:34 IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has now started 18:00:35 +Shepazu 18:00:54 just a minute 18:03:22 +[Microsoft] 18:03:27 +[IPcaller] 18:03:43 Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay 18:03:43 +Olli_Pettay; got it 18:03:51 Travis has joined #webapps 18:04:48 scribe: Travis 18:04:52 scribeNick: Travis 18:05:05 Topic: Issues review 18:05:34 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010AprJun/0031.html 18:05:47 Current editor's draft dated 4/20/2010: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html 18:06:01 shepazu: Many issues resolved in this draft. 18:06:31 ... after review, we will be ready to publish (Working Draft) 18:07:27 ... would like to go to LCWD in first two weeks of May. 18:08:12 smaug: I see setCapture still. Looks to have issues... 18:09:00 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-event-type-setCapture 18:09:01 Topic: set/releaseCapture. 18:10:53 smaug: Recommend not taking these for D3E -- many unresolved issues... 18:11:57 shepazu: [discusses possible use cases] 18:14:20 I am also in favor of postponing this to a future spec. 18:15:05 ... many of the use-cases can be handled via the capture phase of the event model. Granted, capturing events over an iframe is not possible, however, we have had known security exploits as a result of this feature in IE. 18:17:51 Topic: magnify reference misleading? 18:18:16 We all resolve to remove it because it might lead folks to think that it's spec'd somewhere... 18:18:22 shepazu: OK. removed. 18:19:43 Topic: trusted/untrusted events? 18:19:54 shepazu: I think we've already resolved this... 18:20:52 Topic: FocusEvent relatedTarget 18:21:14 Speced as the eventTarget recieveing focus... 18:21:44 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-focus 18:24:58 18:24:58 18:24:58 18:24:58 Untitled Page 18:24:58 18:25:00 18:25:02

18:25:04 18:25:06 18:25:08 18:25:24 18:25:26 18:25:50 (That's a sample code that "undoes" the check action after the fact, via preventDefault.) 18:26:06 (This is related to the issue in default actions.) 18:26:18 shepazu: Great. I'll clean this up and keep the wording as-is. 18:28:47 Back to relatedTarget/focus event type... 18:29:10 IE9 is currently reporting the same object for relatedTarget as target. We can adjust this if necessary... 18:29:31 smaug: Yes, I don't see why we need to have them both point to the same place... 18:30:06 shepazu: OK. I'm changing relatedTarget to be 'null' in cases where the relatedTarget and target are the same in the FocusEvent interface. 18:34:49 Topic: Focus event types interaction (Issue 102) 18:37:50 Action: shepazu to coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. 18:37:50 Created ACTION-529 - Coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-28]. 18:38:41 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-wheel 18:47:05 (back to focus/blur topic... I sent the mail re: this topic on Feb 8, 2010, but it may have been rejected from www-dom. I just resent it to www-archive. 18:47:47 Topic: wheel event, button value 18:49:17 Firefox: it appears to be 0 (which is the default when no value is assigned) 18:49:37 Opera: seems kinda random 0's, 1's, and 2's reported... 18:49:52 shepazu: Should there be an associated button? 18:50:31 I like just having button and 'buttons' be zero. 18:50:35 smaug: me too. 18:50:38 shepazu: OK. Done. 19:00:43 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#keyset-DeadKeys 19:01:02 Topic: dead key values during composition 19:02:51 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#key-values 19:02:57 shepazu: Simple resolves... 19:03:16 Topic: JavaScript escaped characters 19:04:54 All the issues listed seem more like a Note than an issue. 19:04:58 shepazu: Agree. 19:06:32 Might even get its own section, a la "Considerations for key values in other language bindings"? 19:06:47 shepazu: Do we need to worry about C/Java interactions? 19:07:17 ... the implementation will just need to handle it. 19:08:36 ... I'm going to convert these to notes. 19:08:49 shepazu: I think that's the last major issue! 19:09:58 smaug: When the draft is updated, and before publication, please send out a mail. 19:25:36 -Olli_Pettay 19:25:38 -[Microsoft] 19:25:38 -Shepazu 19:25:39 IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended 19:25:41 Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay 19:27:12 trackbot, end telcon 19:27:12 Zakim, list attendees 19:27:12 sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is 19:27:13 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 19:27:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-minutes.html trackbot 19:27:14 RRSAgent, bye 19:27:14 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-actions.rdf : 19:27:14 ACTION: shepazu to coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [1] 19:27:14 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-irc#T18-37-50