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15:54:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SJMS
15:54:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
15:54:49 <trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
15:54:49 <trackbot> Date: 13 April 2010
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16:01:06 <mphillip> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Apr/0005.html
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16:02:47 <mphillip> Zakim, aabb is Mark
16:02:47 <Zakim> +Mark; got it
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16:03:54 <mphillip> TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe 
16:04:00 <mphillip> scribe: Mark
16:04:10 <mphillip> TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes 
16:04:37 <mphillip> Minutes from 30/03 were approved 
16:04:46 <mphillip> Minutes from 6/04 were approved 
16:04:56 <mphillip> TOPIC: Review the agenda
16:05:34 <mphillip> Eric: Also need to discuss testing items - after Item 8 on agenda
16:06:17 <mphillip> Agenda approved with no other amendments 
16:06:26 <mphillip> TOPIC: Review action items 
16:06:42 <mphillip> Eric: No progress on 146
16:06:52 <mphillip> Mark: No progress on 148 and 154
16:07:02 <mphillip> Phil: Completed 155 and 157
16:07:07 <mphillip> close action-155
16:07:07 <trackbot> ACTION-155 Check that we have coverage of all non-WSDL assertions if we do not run the WSDL tests closed
16:07:09 <mphillip> close action-157
16:07:09 <trackbot> ACTION-157 Propose an alternate proposal to resolve issue 30 closed
16:07:22 <mphillip> TOPIC: URI specification
16:07:34 <mphillip> Still pushing Oracle for reply
16:07:56 <mphillip> TOPIC: Raised issues
16:08:12 <mphillip> Issue 29 still raised - awaiting action 148
16:08:20 <mphillip> TOPIC: Accepting proposals to close open issues 
16:08:37 <eric> Issue 30 - existing proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Apr/0002.html
16:09:00 <mphillip> Phil: Proposed alternative resolution
16:09:19 <mphillip> Phil: See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Apr/0006.html
16:14:14 <mphillip> Mark: wording is slightly different - can we make it consistent e.g. "then port" should be "then other properties set on the endpoint"
16:14:45 <mphillip> Eric: Agreed - we will revisit this issue when Phil has revised this proposal
16:14:55 <mphillip> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/31 
16:15:07 <mphillip> Eric's revised proposal:   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Mar/0024.html 
16:17:28 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: ALL approve the updated proposal 
16:17:41 <padams> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Apr/0008.html
16:18:01 <mphillip> Phil's link above is the revised proposal for issue 30
16:18:43 <mphillip> No objections to revised proposal
16:18:53 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: ALL approve Phil's changes
16:19:24 <mphillip> Issue 32 - http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/32 
16:21:09 <mphillip>   http://www.w3.org/2010/04/06-soap-jms-minutes.html 
16:21:28 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: No objections to the proposed resolution to issue 32
16:21:49 <mphillip> Issue 33 : http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/33
16:25:34 <mphillip>   http://www.w3.org/2010/04/06-soap-jms-minutes.html 
16:25:53 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: All approve the  proposed resolution to issue 33
16:26:11 <mphillip> TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions
16:26:48 <mphillip> action: Phil to apply the resolutions to issue 30, 31, 32, and 33 
16:26:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-159 - Apply the resolutions to issue 30, 31, 32, and 33  [on Phil Adams - due 2010-04-20].
16:27:33 <mphillip> Resolution for Issue 22: 
16:27:51 <mphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jan/0026.html
16:31:06 <mphillip> All approve the application of the resolution for Issue 22
16:31:18 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: Issue 22 can be closed 
16:31:38 <mphillip> Issue 28: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/28 
16:32:15 <mphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Mar/0025.html
16:36:22 <mphillip> Discussion on whether topicReplyToName is allow in the JNDI variant 
16:36:53 <eric> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-merrick-jms-uri-06.txt
16:37:13 <mphillip> Section 2.2.2 of binding spec confirms it is not valid for the jndi variant
16:39:49 <mphillip> All approve the application of the resolution for Issue 28
16:39:58 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: Issue 28 can be closed 
16:40:34 <eric> Topic: Test assertions
16:40:38 <eric> Phil's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Apr/0003.html
16:42:05 <mphillip> Phil: Temporarily modified testcases.xml to remove WSDL tests and built a new testcases document to find out which assertions are not covered.  Observations in email.
16:47:05 <mphillip> Eric: Regarding proposal 5 - if using jndi how can you force the test to use a topic
16:49:24 <mphillip> Phil: The object defined to jndi wouldhave to be defined to be a topic - don't think the test needs to go as far as checking the object type to enforce it being a topic
16:50:11 <mphillip> Mark: Following that line of thought we *could* remove proposal 5 because everything we get out of jndi is a JMSDestination, but happy to leave it in 
16:50:32 <mphillip> Peter: Agreed - feels more secure to leave it in 
16:51:30 <mphillip> action: Phil to implement the test coverage proposals 
16:51:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-160 - Implement the test coverage proposals  [on Phil Adams - due 2010-04-20].
16:52:16 <mphillip> TOPIC: AOB 
16:52:53 <mphillip> Eric: Will not be available next week - nor will Amy, so no TIBCO reps....  propose we skip next week's call and work on actions
16:54:09 <mphillip> Eric: Need to think about how we get two different implementations that we can test together 
16:54:32 <mphillip> Phil: Do we need two implementations from different companies?
16:54:51 <mphillip> Eric: Technically not, but it would be preferable
16:55:23 <mphillip> Eric: The CXF project has an implementation, so that plus a vendor project would be sufficient
16:55:45 <mphillip> Phil: Is anyone from the working group companies involved in CXF?
16:57:37 <mphillip> Eric: Barrier to involvement with Apache projects should be fairly low
16:59:26 <mphillip> Next call - usual time 27th April 
16:59:29 <Zakim> -Peter_Easton
16:59:30 <Zakim> -eric
16:59:30 <Zakim> -Derek
16:59:31 <Zakim> -alewis
16:59:31 <Zakim> -padams
16:59:33 <Zakim> -Mark
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16:59:35 <Zakim> Attendees were padams, Peter_Easton, alewis, +1.708.246.aaaa, +0196270aabb, Mark, eric, Derek
16:59:47 <mphillip> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:59:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip
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