16:36:50 RRSAgent has joined #core 16:36:50 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-irc 16:36:55 Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group 16:37:00 Chair: Richard Ishida 16:37:12 Agenda: http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Homework 16:37:17 Regrets: Addison 16:37:59 Topic: Action item review 16:39:29 ACTION: Addison: write to html-wg after richard's note is sent asking for process clarification DONE 16:39:47 Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??) 16:39:57 Work begun, hopefully done today 16:40:06 richard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of C-L's structure 16:40:10 DONE 16:40:32 Topic: Info Share 16:41:16 RI: I'll be speaking at Localization world in June in Berlin 16:41:42 Norbert: TPAC scheduled for November - should we assume that we will meet there? 16:41:52 RI: yes, it'll be in Lyon, France 16:42:09 ... we should plan to attend 16:42:52 Topic: HTML Issues-88 Response 16:50:42 zakim, mute David 16:50:42 David should now be muted 16:52:10 zakim, unmute David 16:52:10 David should no longer be muted 16:56:44 najib has joined #core 17:00:40 Richard: Meta content-lang was supposed to be for servers to pick up lang for header, but it does not seem to be actually used for this purpose. 17:01:39 from some research, it appears that it is commonly filled with meaningless values. 17:02:49 Richard suggests deprecating it, for this reason. Although it is de-facto being used to set default language. 17:03:20 Then new documents should use http or rdfa to specify it. 17:03:52 It is currently recognised by many developers, but prone to confusion. 17:06:36 action: all Read the Issue 88 thread with deprecation in mind 17:07:14 Topic: Bidi Document Progress 17:07:52 Richard: been unable to progress much due to other issues... 17:08:22 Aharon has had a meeting in Israel and come up with further suggestings. 17:08:59 Mati: Bidi list has been active, and we should try to integrate results into HTML5 WG soon. 17:09:01 najib_ma has joined #core 17:10:07 mati: It is now time to separate good and bad then stabilise the documentation, but will be travelling and may be unable to assist. 17:10:34 Richard: Agrees we should progress it. Does Aharon have a planned date. 17:10:58 Mati: Not spoken to him recently, so not sure. 17:11:36 Action: Prompt Aharon on Bidi document progress. 17:11:55 Topic: Widgets P&C 17:12:34 Widgets comments need to be raised soon or it will be too late. 17:12:50 bidi overrides seem satisfactory. 17:13:34 Action: All: Any widget comments need to be emailed in next 24 hours. 17:13:58 Topic: Things currently in progress 17:14:16 Ruby in HTML5 17:14:37 Widgets P&C 17:14:42 DOM3 Key events 17:15:32 previous comments currently being implemented 17:15:47 HTML5 i18n review, including Issue-88 17:15:53 XSL-FO ruby 17:15:55 -Felix 17:16:12 CSS3 Ruby 17:16:29 fsasaki_ has joined #core 17:16:31 DAP, Calendaring 17:16:43 HTML, the Markup Language 17:17:16 +[IPcaller] 17:18:46 David: May need to consider calendar impact on HTML5 etc. 17:19:49 Character encodings in HTML and CSS tutorial 17:19:59 HTML5 seems to be expanding its scope, as you can use XHTML strict types but not transitional... 17:19:59 Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTML 17:20:09 Japanese Layout Requirements 17:22:12 +mati.a 17:22:24 Felix: Murata san has taken core requirements from JLReq and used for EPUB specification and it may be workth us looking at that 17:22:26 -mati 17:22:42 ACTION: Felix to send information about Japanese EPUB requirements 17:23:18 EPUB is used fro Ebook readers like Kindle 17:23:56 Also compatible with Daisy format for talking books, so Daisy is a subset of EPUB. 17:24:02 s/fro /for / 17:25:04 http://www.openebook.org/ (specifying epub) 17:25:08 unsure of market share of EPUB 17:26:15 EPUB used on IPAD, Samsung, Google Android devices etc... 17:26:16 najib has joined #core 17:27:06 Not currently the dominant standard, as much is PDF and proprietary formats 17:27:44 Vertical text tests 17:27:44 while EPUB is is trying to be cross proprietary boundaries. 17:27:53 Finishing the i18n test suite port 17:29:17 groups intenting to use the tests: Opera (internally), CSS2.1 HTML5 possibly. 17:29:50 -mati.a 17:29:51 -Andrew 17:29:52 -Felix 17:29:53 -David 17:29:53 -Norbert 17:29:55 -Richard 17:29:57 I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended 17:29:59 Attendees were [IPcaller], Norbert, mati, Richard, David, Felix, Andrew 17:30:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 17:30:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-minutes.html r12a 17:30:55 rrsagent, make log public 17:31:56 rrsagent, bye 17:31:56 I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-actions.rdf : 17:31:56 ACTION: Addison: write to html-wg after richard's note is sent asking for process clarification DONE [1] 17:31:56 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-irc#T16-39-29 17:31:56 ACTION: all Read the Issue 88 thread with deprecation in mind [2] 17:31:56 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-irc#T17-06-36 17:31:56 ACTION: Prompt Aharon on Bidi document progress. [3] 17:31:56 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-irc#T17-11-36 17:31:56 ACTION: All: Any widget comments need to be emailed in next 24 hours. [4] 17:31:56 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-irc#T17-13-34 17:31:56 ACTION: Felix to send information about Japanese EPUB requirements [5] 17:31:56 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-core-irc#T17-22-42