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18:04:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
18:04:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM already started
18:04:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
18:04:42 <trackbot> Date: 31 March 2010
18:04:51 <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu 
18:04:51 <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
18:04:52 <Zakim> +Shepazu
18:06:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:07:04 <smaug> Zakim:, [IPcaller] is me
18:07:16 <smaug> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
18:07:16 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
18:13:37 <Travis> topic: beforescroll, magnify ideas
18:13:50 <Travis> Very interesting ideas.
18:14:05 <Travis> wheel event provides some of these use cases (for panning anyway).
18:14:55 <Travis> smaug: Chatted with Joao and recommended that these ideas be addressed in a future events spec.
18:15:16 <Travis> shepazu: We're pretty much feature-complete at this point.
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18:17:24 <Travis> topic: DOMActivate
18:18:12 <Travis> shepazu: Spoke with PF WG and addressed the topic of deprecating DOMActivate.
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18:19:07 <Travis> ... Their resolution was that they had no objections so long as activation behvior is retained (we have clarified that) and make it more clear that "click" is device independent.
18:19:40 <Travis> ... I will add some specific text to the spec to address these point immediately.
18:19:55 <Travis> ... From XForms WG, they are still concerned about deprecating DOMActivate.
18:23:00 <Travis> shepazu: All of our "optional" features are also "deprecated" at the moment.
18:23:49 <Travis> ... One approach to addressing the concerns of XForms is to keep DOMActivate as optional, but remove the "deprecated" status.
18:27:17 <Travis> ... I'm not thrilled about splitting the concept of "optional" and "deprecated".
18:31:38 <Travis> ... Given that a majority of other WG are on board (including accessibility), we believe that any objections at this point should be taken to the list, and addressed at last call.
18:35:46 <Travis> topic: textInput and input modes
18:39:27 <Travis> In some scenarios (editing w/execCommands and contenteditable), we may not be able to discern script from end-user input.
18:39:36 <Travis> Action: shepazu to add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input.
18:39:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-512 - Add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-07].
18:43:42 <Travis> topic: composition start/end and cancelable
18:44:12 <Travis> smaug: Got some feedback regarding the ability to cancel IMEs in GTK in Unix-based OS
18:44:41 <Travis> ... didn't seem to be able to cancle the IME on these platforms.
18:53:56 <Travis> ... need to get further clarification.
18:54:56 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
18:54:58 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
18:55:06 <Zakim> -Shepazu
18:55:07 <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
18:55:08 <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], Shepazu, Olli_Pettay
18:55:11 <Travis> Travis: I also had some feedback that I'll send to the list.
18:56:39 <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
18:56:39 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
18:56:39 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
18:56:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:56:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
18:56:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
18:56:41 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-actions.rdf :
18:56:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu to add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input. [1]
18:56:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-irc#T18-39-36