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16:19:51 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
16:19:51 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
16:20:00 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
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16:20:13 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization WG Teleconference
16:20:16 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:20:21 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
16:20:24 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
16:20:40 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Mar/0030.html
16:20:46 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:20:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html aphillip
16:21:06 <David> just noticed on the agenda: Time     : 18:30 UTC !!!
16:21:32 <David> should be 16:30
16:23:49 <David> How are you addison?
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16:30:25 <David> hello Norbert
16:30:51 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has now started
16:30:58 <Zakim> +Norbert
16:32:17 <Zakim> +David
16:32:25 <Zakim> +aphillip
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16:33:42 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:33:42 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:33:44 <Zakim> +Richard
16:34:10 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
16:34:13 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
16:34:13 <Zakim> -Richard
16:34:37 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:34:37 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:34:39 <Zakim> +Richard
16:34:57 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
16:34:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Norbert, David, aphillip, Richard
16:34:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see r12a, Norbert, David, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip
16:36:36 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
16:36:49 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:36:59 <aphillip> Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue 
16:37:11 <aphillip> discussions going on about html5 markup
16:37:24 <aphillip> until settled, can't do anything about this
16:37:34 <aphillip> kill issue as stale for now
16:37:48 <aphillip> addison: follow up on Issue-88 on March 23 with HTML-WG 
16:37:52 <aphillip> done
16:37:58 <aphillip> see response from paul
16:38:56 <aphillip> all: review the bidi note document, sending comments as appropriate, by next teleconference (17 March) 
16:38:57 <aphillip> stale
16:39:07 <aphillip> addison: make additional call on email for input on telecon time, suggesting current time if no objections?? 
16:39:11 <Zakim> -Richard
16:39:15 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:39:15 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:39:16 <Zakim> +Richard
16:39:41 <aphillip> addison: prepare blurb on -u- extension for i18n homepage 
16:40:03 <aphillip> to be done on time
16:40:09 <aphillip> (publication coming today)
16:40:13 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:40:30 <aphillip> richard: new twitter channel (web-i18n) dedicated to our group
16:40:42 <aphillip> s/web-i18n/webi18n
16:40:50 <aphillip> s/web-i18n/webi18n/
16:41:26 <aphillip> ... and announcements (such as addison's -u- announcement) will go out on it
16:41:51 <aphillip> richard: started working on i18n checker
16:42:03 <aphillip> ... trying to make it look like "mobile ok" checker as much as possible
16:42:34 <aphillip> ... will try to have something done by 1 June
16:42:51 <r12a> http://rishida.net/tools/i18nchecker/
16:43:20 <aphillip> Topic: Issue-88 discussion
16:43:29 <aphillip>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2010JanMar/0159.html
16:45:12 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0116.html
16:45:32 <aphillip> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
16:45:42 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Htmlissue88
16:45:59 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2010Mar/0032.html
16:46:03 <aphillip> Hixie's: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2010Mar/0032.html
16:48:40 <aphillip> not clear on how we actually proceed
16:49:37 <aphillip> "For meta elements with an http-equiv attribute in the Content Language state, the content attribute must have a value consisting of one or more valid BCP 47 language codes, separated by spaces. [BCP47]" 
16:49:41 <Zakim> -Richard
16:49:49 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:49:49 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:49:51 <Zakim> +Richard
16:52:04 <aphillip> richard: new algorithm: if multiple values, then stop with no value
16:52:20 <aphillip> ... but text still says...
16:54:13 <aphillip> richard: @lang has priority, so we're all set, except for that one sentence
16:55:26 <aphillip> ACTION: richard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of <meta> C-L's structure
16:55:54 <aphillip> richard: we also asked for additional note about difference between @lang and C-L
16:56:12 <aphillip> ... spec says if you have C-L and no @lang, then a warning should be issued
16:56:19 <aphillip> ... this could be good text for the warning
16:56:51 <aphillip> ... either include our text in spec; or suggest as the note in the warning; or just put it into our documentation set
16:58:50 <aphillip> richard: consider for the markup document
16:59:29 <aphillip> ... won't insist but will suggest for markup document
16:59:53 <aphillip> per group: make it so
17:00:14 <aphillip> norbert: language codes -> language tags
17:02:32 <aphillip> Topic: Calendaring API 
17:02:43 <aphillip>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0096.html
17:03:34 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0099.html
17:03:55 <aphillip> richard: spoke to some Korean folks at AC and they showed me Korean traditional calendar on an iPhone
17:04:02 <aphillip> ... and ability to flip between them
17:18:01 <aphillip> Action: Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??)
17:18:39 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi WG Note progress 
17:18:56 <aphillip> richard: Aharon did provide a list of issues
17:20:18 <aphillip> ... but only to me
17:20:37 <aphillip> ... will reply and ask for it to go to list
17:21:35 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
17:22:06 <aphillip> Marcos Caceres and widgets P&C
17:23:03 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0114.html
17:23:18 <aphillip> [[ Note: Implementations intending to display IRIs and IDNA addresses found  in the configuration document are strongly encouraged to follow the  security advice given in [UTR36]. This could include, for example,  behaving as if the dir attribute had no effect on any IRI attributes,  path attributes, and the author element's email attribute. ]]
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17:27:53 <aphillip> addison: maybe "as if the dir attribute had no effect" => "as if the dir attribute were 'lro'"
17:29:02 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
17:29:12 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:29:37 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: write to html-wg after richard's note is sent asking for next steps
17:29:51 <aphillip> s/next steps/process clarification/
17:29:59 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:29:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:30:33 <r12a> s/eastern/Easter/
17:30:49 <Zakim> -aphillip
17:30:51 <Zakim> -Norbert
17:30:56 <Zakim> -Richard
17:30:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:30:58 <Zakim> -Felix
17:30:59 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
17:31:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Norbert, David, aphillip, Richard, [IPcaller], Felix
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17:31:08 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-actions.rdf :
17:31:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of <meta> C-L's structure [1]
17:31:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-irc#T16-55-26
17:31:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??) [2]
17:31:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-irc#T17-18-01
17:31:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Addison: write to html-wg after richard's note is sent asking for next steps [3]
17:31:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-irc#T17-29-37