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19:49:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7769
19:49:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
19:49:23 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
19:49:23 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2010
19:49:46 <kerry> trackbot, start telcon 
19:49:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
19:49:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7769
19:49:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
19:49:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
19:49:52 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2010
19:52:38 <kerry> trackbot, start telcon 
19:52:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
19:52:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7769
19:52:42 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
19:52:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
19:52:43 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2010
19:53:30 <kerry> phone number is +16177616200
19:54:37 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has now started
19:54:44 <Zakim> + +61.4.097.8.aaaa
19:55:01 <kerry> conf code: 7769
19:55:31 <Zakim> + +1.206.662.aabb
19:55:47 <kerry> trackbot, start telcon 
19:55:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
19:55:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7769
19:55:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
19:55:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
19:55:52 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2010
19:57:26 <kelsey> zakim, 1.206.662.aabb
19:57:26 <Zakim> I don't understand '1.206.662.aabb', kelsey
19:57:37 <kelsey> zakim, +1.206.662.aabb
19:57:37 <Zakim> I don't understand '+1.206.662.aabb', kelsey
19:57:46 <kelsey> zakim, + +1.206.662.aabb
19:57:46 <Zakim> I wonder where +1.206.662.aabb is
19:58:12 <kelsey> zakim, + +1.206.662.aabb is me
19:58:12 <Zakim> I don't understand '+ +1.206.662.aabb is me', kelsey
19:58:20 <kelsey> zakim, 1.206.662.aabb is me
19:58:20 <Zakim> sorry, kelsey, I do not recognize a party named '1.206.662.aabb'
19:58:58 <kerry> kerry has joined #ssn
19:59:22 <kerry> hello?
20:00:12 <laurent_oz> laurent_oz has joined #ssn
20:00:25 <krp> krp has joined #ssn
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20:02:30 <kerry> zakim, who's making noise
20:02:30 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's making noise', kerry
20:02:46 <kerry> zakim, who's making noise?
20:02:46 <Zakim> sorry, kerry, I don't know what conference this is
20:03:02 <Bermudez_Luis> Bermudez_Luis has joined #ssn
20:03:20 <kerry> trackbot, start telcon
20:03:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
20:03:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7769
20:03:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
20:03:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
20:03:25 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2010
20:03:43 <kerry> zakim, who's making noise?
20:03:43 <Zakim> sorry, kerry, I don't know what conference this is
20:04:09 <kerry> zakim, this is inc_ssn
20:04:09 <Zakim> ok, kerry; that matches INC_SSN()4:00PM
20:04:16 <kelsey> who is talking
20:04:27 <kelsey> zakim, who is talking
20:04:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is talking', kelsey
20:04:34 <Zakim> +Susana
20:04:37 <kerry> zakim, who is making noise?
20:04:49 <Zakim> kerry, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Susana (19%), ??P11 (31%)
20:05:54 <Zakim> -??P11
20:06:02 <Zakim> + +0797376aadd
20:06:07 <Zakim> +??P11
20:06:16 <krp> zakim, +0797376aadd is me
20:06:16 <Zakim> +krp; got it
20:06:18 <kerry> zakim, who is making noise?
20:06:30 <Zakim> kerry, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Susana (46%)
20:06:32 <laurent_oz> zalim, +??P11 is me
20:06:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:07:00 <Arthur> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
20:07:00 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it
20:07:33 <kerry> Regrets: Oscar Krzystof Payam
20:08:34 <kerry> agenda+ Roll call  agenda+ Actions from last meeting (a. Accuracy in tracker b. obs record & device)  agenda+ Accuracy and other aspects of QualityofMeasurement  agenda+   agenda+ AOB
20:08:51 <kerry> agenda+ Roll call
20:09:05 <kerry> agenda+ Actions from last meeting (a. Accuracy in tracker b. obs record & device)
20:09:22 <kerry> agenda+ Accuracy and other aspects of QualityofMeasurement
20:09:40 <kerry> agenda+ AOB
20:09:54 <kerry> Chair: Kerry
20:10:14 <kerry> ScribeNick: kelsey
20:11:27 <krp> Nope, sorry, didn't catch it here.
20:12:05 <kerry> regrets: holger
20:14:06 <kelsey> topic:  accuracy & qual of measurements (micheal not available to discuss)
20:15:19 <kelsey> TOPIC: tracker (obvs records & devices, kerry to go over sensor network description)
20:17:16 <krp> Seems sensible to postpone, we're low on numbers today.
20:17:48 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Modelling_of_Accuracy%2C_etc
20:19:32 <kelsey> Laurent: (posted Michael's wiki ref of accuracy modeling), discussed with Michael Qual of Measurement intermediate class vs. specific class for each metric (e.g. accuracy)
20:22:39 <krp> +q
20:23:41 <kelsey> Kerry:  may require OWL-Full for accuracy representation
20:23:46 <Bermudez_Luis> +q
20:25:11 <kerry> +krp
20:25:26 <kerry> ack krp
20:26:08 <kelsey> Laurent:  challenge is to provide complex accuracy when accuracy is derived from multiple sensors plus additional computations
20:28:07 <kerry> ack Bermudez_Luis
20:28:15 <kelsey> krp: easy case is when the accuracy is derived from the sensor itself
20:31:07 <laurent_oz> krp: also have the case where the measurement quality of a sensor is modified by wind conditions
20:31:19 <kelsey> kerry:  table further discussion, will revisit when Micheal is available (mailing list / next meeting)
20:31:48 <krp> Yes, that's useful, that's filled in what I missed  :)
20:32:25 <kelsey> topic:  other business
20:33:12 <kelsey> kerry:  meeting time has changed (please watch for updates)
20:34:04 <kelsey> kerry:  1st week in April
20:35:10 <kelsey> kerry:  reported on SSN-XG last week during W3C semantic web meeting
20:35:48 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-swcg-minutes.html#item02:
20:36:14 <kelsey> kerry: Third deliverable - member submission on our approach to markup
20:37:03 <kelsey> kerry:  CSIRO has decided not to engage in the member submission, need other members to contribute to the member submission
20:37:34 <kelsey> kerry:  Do you intend to be part of the member submission team?
20:38:23 <laurent_oz> +q
20:38:38 <kerry> ack laurent_oz
20:39:08 <kelsey> laurent:  there was a presentation on how to align the ontology with DOLCE, krystov will be return next week to discuss
20:43:54 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Mappings_Deliverable
20:45:08 <krp> This is the member submission: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Markup_Draft_Deliverable
20:45:46 <krp> and the mappings deliverable is just a report, not a member submission, right?
20:45:59 <kerry> rp-- yes
20:46:11 <kerry> krp -- yes you are right
20:48:15 <kelsey> luis:  in response to laurent, IEEE 1451 currently does not appear to relate to this incubator group
20:50:36 <kerry> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Communities
20:51:50 <kelsey> kerry:  wish to describe?
20:51:53 <kelsey> -1
20:53:27 <kelsey> laurent: will be out for two weeks
20:54:08 <krp> Ok, thanks, bye!
20:54:37 <Zakim> - +1.202.408.aacc
20:54:38 <Zakim> -Arthur
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20:54:45 <Zakim> -krp
20:54:50 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2008/04/scribe
20:55:30 <Zakim> - +1.206.662.aabb
20:55:32 <Zakim> - +61.4.097.8.aaaa
20:55:45 <Zakim> -Susana
20:55:47 <Zakim> -??P11
20:55:48 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has ended
20:55:49 <kerry> zakim, bye
20:55:49 <Zakim> Zakim has left #ssn
20:55:49 <Zakim> Attendees were +61.4.097.8.aaaa, +1.206.662.aabb, +1.202.408.aacc, Susana, krp, Arthur
20:56:03 <kerry> rrsagent, make log public
20:56:11 <kerry> draft minutes
20:57:08 <kerry> rrsagent, draft minutes
20:57:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/16-ssn-minutes.html kerry
20:57:22 <kerry> rrsagent, bye
20:57:22 <RRSAgent> I see no action items