18:58:11 RRSAgent has joined #html-a11y 18:58:11 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/03/15-html-a11y-irc 18:58:13 RRSAgent, make logs world 18:58:13 Zakim has joined #html-a11y 18:58:15 Zakim, this will be 2119 18:58:15 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 18:58:16 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference 18:58:16 Date: 15 March 2010 18:58:39 Zakim, this will be 92473 18:58:39 ok, richardschwerdtfe; I see WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 18:59:02 Meeting: HTMl Accessibility Task Force Canvas Accessibility Call 18:59:25 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Canvas Accessibility Call 18:59:43 WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM has now started 18:59:44 jongunderson has joined #html-a11y 18:59:50 +Rich 19:01:20 +Jon_Gunderson 19:01:52 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010JanMar/0295.html 19:04:51 +[Microsoft] 19:06:38 Scribe: gunderson 19:06:57 RS: I have been talking with M... about selection 19:07:21 RS: He wants the caret API from the focus selection, that seems to work for me 19:07:42 RS: I am having a tough time with caret position 19:08:07 Frank: That is a good question about where the caraet is in a selection 19:08:39 Frank: When you select something, let me check what we do with caret browsing on 19:08:53 Frank: The caret is at the end of the selection 19:09:23 RS: He said it doesn't move, I tried it with NOTES, and it is consistent with what you are saying 19:10:21 RS: I brought up the agenda 19:10:44 RS: I am going to point to the last one from M... 19:10:50 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010JanMar/0296.html 19:11:19 RS: Maciej does not know what a point of regard 19:11:37 RS: It you have caret browsing on it goes to the end, what happens in Safari? 19:11:48 RS: Does Safari have the notion of caret browsing? 19:12:01 RS: I don't see anything there 19:12:13 RS: IE is at the end of the selection 19:12:25 Frank: End of the drag, yes 19:13:24 RS: Canvas can draw custom unless special focus ring is set, he thinks this will have the opposite effect 19:13:35 RS: The author is requesting to draw, does that make sense 19:14:31 RS: They have this custom drawing function, unless focus..., add method request draw, author requests focus ring 19:14:40 Frank: that makes sense 19:15:09 Frank: Last time we discusses this there was a draw ...., what happened to that proposal 19:15:52 RS: They have a draw focus ring, a rectangle, they requested that the caret be moved separately, for set selection position, for the start of the selection, but it is really the end of the selection 19:16:52 RS: I propose we have a separate function to draw the caret and AT could be given the coordination, the browser can't draw the caret in the canvas, since it does not have any context or information 19:17:27 RS: the desktop should control the blink rate, the canvas does not have access to OS, unless there is a function in canavs 19:17:51 Frank: We have a blink rate preference, it would be need to wired up 19:18:12 frank: Focus ring there is not a huge burden ont eh author to draw that 19:18:21 RS: Using a call back method? 19:19:22 franl: it would be nice to have display cursor here method, it would know about styling and zoom, these seems better than the author having to draw and create a blink rate 19:20:01 Frank: It is really up to the author to make sure everything is right, it is more fruitful to keep these concepts at a higher level 19:20:44 RS: I did not know if there would be a problem with drawing on the camvas, I ii is a problem when the drawing program knows noting of the canvas 19:21:44 Frank: The blink rate and style is set by the author and the zoom would be calculated by browser 19:21:58 RS: Is the blink rate in blinks per second? 19:22:26 Frank: I think it is a 0.5 Hz 19:22:50 RS: We will have a get blink rate, with a default? 19:22:54 frank: yes 19:23:05 RS: What is the default for windows? 19:23:23 frank: .4 - 2.5 Hz (.5 is default) 19:23:47 RS: Frequency? Would the blink rate ever be slower than X times per second? 19:24:13 Frank: When javascript is used it will be in millisecond using a call back 19:24:40 RS: So the milliseconds is every so many millisecones 19:24:47 RS: So the milliseconds is every so many millisecondes 19:25:00 RS: What is the default rate? 19:25:07 Frank: I think it is 500 msec 19:25:32 Frank: I will take a few minutes to find out 19:25:36 RS: send to the list 19:26:03 RS: .. he was suppose to put up the nav sub tree, the only objection was CMN 19:26:13 RS: May be able to take to the sub group this week 19:26:18 RS: let me check 19:26:38 RS: We are suppose to put a vote out for the HTML 19:27:05 RS: It is suppose to move forward, I don't see any objections 19:27:45 RS: I agreed to work with AREA map to support a sub tree, this would be a pretty big change to the spec by bringing in the AREA map requirement 19:28:02 RS: Do you prefer the caret call to be a caret or selection 19:28:12 RS: Selection position or caret position 19:28:20 Frank: I vote caret position 19:28:28 RS: Apple does not agree 19:28:55 RS: I am not sure we have anything else to discuss 19:29:19 rssagent draft, minutes 19:29:39 rrsagent draft, minutes 19:29:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 19:29:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/15-html-a11y-minutes.html jongunderson 19:30:27 -[Microsoft] 19:30:29 -Jon_Gunderson 19:30:31 WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM has ended 19:30:32 Attendees were Rich, Jon_Gunderson, [Microsoft] 21:01:34 Zakim has left #html-a11y 21:28:08 MikeSmithXX has joined #html-a11y 23:58:27 davidb has joined #html-a11y