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18:58:15 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:58:16 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
18:58:16 Date: 15 March 2010
18:58:39 Zakim, this will be 92473
18:58:39 ok, richardschwerdtfe; I see WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
18:59:02 Meeting: HTMl Accessibility Task Force Canvas Accessibility Call
18:59:25 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Canvas Accessibility Call
18:59:43 WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM has now started
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18:59:50 +Rich
19:01:20 +Jon_Gunderson
19:01:52 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010JanMar/0295.html
19:04:51 +[Microsoft]
19:06:38 Scribe: gunderson
19:06:57 RS: I have been talking with M... about selection
19:07:21 RS: He wants the caret API from the focus selection, that seems to work for me
19:07:42 RS: I am having a tough time with caret position
19:08:07 Frank: That is a good question about where the caraet is in a selection
19:08:39 Frank: When you select something, let me check what we do with caret browsing on
19:08:53 Frank: The caret is at the end of the selection
19:09:23 RS: He said it doesn't move, I tried it with NOTES, and it is consistent with what you are saying
19:10:21 RS: I brought up the agenda
19:10:44 RS: I am going to point to the last one from M...
19:10:50 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010JanMar/0296.html
19:11:19 RS: Maciej does not know what a point of regard
19:11:37 RS: It you have caret browsing on it goes to the end, what happens in Safari?
19:11:48 RS: Does Safari have the notion of caret browsing?
19:12:01 RS: I don't see anything there
19:12:13 RS: IE is at the end of the selection
19:12:25 Frank: End of the drag, yes
19:13:24 RS: Canvas can draw custom unless special focus ring is set, he thinks this will have the opposite effect
19:13:35 RS: The author is requesting to draw, does that make sense
19:14:31 RS: They have this custom drawing function, unless focus..., add method request draw, author requests focus ring
19:14:40 Frank: that makes sense
19:15:09 Frank: Last time we discusses this there was a draw ...., what happened to that proposal
19:15:52 RS: They have a draw focus ring, a rectangle, they requested that the caret be moved separately, for set selection position, for the start of the selection, but it is really the end of the selection
19:16:52 RS: I propose we have a separate function to draw the caret and AT could be given the coordination, the browser can't draw the caret in the canvas, since it does not have any context or information
19:17:27 RS: the desktop should control the blink rate, the canvas does not have access to OS, unless there is a function in canavs
19:17:51 Frank: We have a blink rate preference, it would be need to wired up
19:18:12 frank: Focus ring there is not a huge burden ont eh author to draw that
19:18:21 RS: Using a call back method?
19:19:22 franl: it would be nice to have display cursor here method, it would know about styling and zoom, these seems better than the author having to draw and create a blink rate
19:20:01 Frank: It is really up to the author to make sure everything is right, it is more fruitful to keep these concepts at a higher level
19:20:44 RS: I did not know if there would be a problem with drawing on the camvas, I ii is a problem when the drawing program knows noting of the canvas
19:21:44 Frank: The blink rate and style is set by the author and the zoom would be calculated by browser
19:21:58 RS: Is the blink rate in blinks per second?
19:22:26 Frank: I think it is a 0.5 Hz
19:22:50 RS: We will have a get blink rate, with a default?
19:22:54 frank: yes
19:23:05 RS: What is the default for windows?
19:23:23 frank: .4 - 2.5 Hz (.5 is default)
19:23:47 RS: Frequency? Would the blink rate ever be slower than X times per second?
19:24:13 Frank: When javascript is used it will be in millisecond using a call back
19:24:40 RS: So the milliseconds is every so many millisecones
19:24:47 RS: So the milliseconds is every so many millisecondes
19:25:00 RS: What is the default rate?
19:25:07 Frank: I think it is 500 msec
19:25:32 Frank: I will take a few minutes to find out
19:25:36 RS: send to the list
19:26:03 RS: .. he was suppose to put up the nav sub tree, the only objection was CMN
19:26:13 RS: May be able to take to the sub group this week
19:26:18 RS: let me check
19:26:38 RS: We are suppose to put a vote out for the HTML
19:27:05 RS: It is suppose to move forward, I don't see any objections
19:27:45 RS: I agreed to work with AREA map to support a sub tree, this would be a pretty big change to the spec by bringing in the AREA map requirement
19:28:02 RS: Do you prefer the caret call to be a caret or selection
19:28:12 RS: Selection position or caret position
19:28:20 Frank: I vote caret position
19:28:28 RS: Apple does not agree
19:28:55 RS: I am not sure we have anything else to discuss
19:29:19 rssagent draft, minutes
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19:29:52 rrsagent, draft minutes
19:29:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/15-html-a11y-minutes.html jongunderson
19:30:27 -[Microsoft]
19:30:29 -Jon_Gunderson
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19:30:32 Attendees were Rich, Jon_Gunderson, [Microsoft]
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