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13:40:19 <ivan> zakim, this will be swcg
13:40:19 <Zakim> ok, ivan; I see SW_CG()9:00AM scheduled to start in 20 minutes
13:40:28 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
13:40:44 <ivan> Meeting: SW CG Telco, 2010-03-10
13:40:47 <ivan> Chair: Ivan
13:40:59 <ivan> Regrets: Ian, Manu
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13:54:15 <Zakim> +??P9
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13:54:37 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
13:54:37 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
13:54:38 <Zakim> +Ivan
13:55:13 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aaaa
13:55:22 <ivan> zakim, ??P9 is Tom
13:55:22 <Zakim> +Tom; got it
13:55:34 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Amit
13:55:34 <Zakim> +Amit; got it
13:56:45 <TomB> rrsagent, bookmark
13:56:45 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-swcg-irc#T13-56-45
13:57:04 <TomB> zakim, this will be swcg
13:57:04 <Zakim> ok, TomB; I see SW_CG()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:00:19 <TomB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-semweb-cg/2010Mar/0002.html
14:00:23 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
14:00:23 <Zakim> I notice SW_CG()9:00AM has restarted
14:00:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see Tom, Ivan, Amit, Sandro
14:00:47 <TomB> Meeting: SWD CG
14:01:51 <TomB> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-swcg-minutes.html
14:02:04 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
14:02:21 <ivan> Scribenick: Sandro
14:03:12 <ivan> Topic: Admin, Last meeting
14:03:28 <sandro> Ivan, it's here: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/RIF_In_RDF
14:03:29 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-swcg-minutes.html Last meeting minutes
14:03:42 <sandro> (but I expect to change the title to "Frame View of RIF Syntax"
14:03:46 <sandro> )
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14:04:26 <sandro> ivan: Any problems with minutes?
14:04:33 <sandro> minutes approved
14:04:49 <Zakim> +ChrisW
14:04:55 <mhausenblas>  http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-swcg-minutes.html
14:05:07 <ivan> Topic : next meeting
14:05:16 <Zakim> +mscottm
14:05:26 <sandro> next meeting: march 24
14:05:34 <sandro> AC Meeting is March 22-23.
14:05:46 <sandro> Ivan: I may not be able to send agenda
14:05:59 <sandro> regrets (will be at FOSE)
14:05:59 <TomB> TomB will be traveling and may have to send regrets
14:06:49 <mscottm> also regrets: AAAI Linked Data meeting
14:06:56 <sandro> regrets for Scott and Harry
14:07:33 <ivan> Topic: Semantic Sensor Network
14:07:40 <AmitSheth> Main page: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Main_Page
14:08:10 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
14:08:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Tom, Ivan, Amit, Sandro, mhausenblas, ChrisW, mscottm
14:08:47 <sandro> round-the-table intros
14:09:42 <sandro> amit: Some members of my team have been participating in these groups
14:11:31 <sandro> (sorry, I'm not making enough sense of this to scribe.   when/if it starts to make sense to me, I'll write things.)
14:13:10 <sandro> amit: At W3C, we've done describing things (OWL), semantically enhanced services, queries, RDF as integration environment, WSDL services....   the idea now is to bridge with OGC.
14:13:31 <AmitSheth> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Main_Page
14:13:32 <sandro> amit: Begin the formal process of defining ontologies which describe sensors and sensor networks.
14:13:53 <Zakim> +keckert
14:13:57 <sandro> amit: currently 38 people from 17 organizations, academic and industrial.
14:14:04 <danbri> zakim, keckert is really danbri
14:14:04 <Zakim> +danbri; got it
14:14:06 <AmitSheth> •	http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Participants
14:14:10 <danbri> i think  - i just joined
14:14:16 <sandro> ... ogc provides geospacial and sensor web experise.
14:14:51 <sandro> AmitSheth: Three deliverables.    1.     ontology for sensors and sensor observations
14:15:07 <sandro> AmitSheth: 2.  relate to OCG ontologies
14:15:40 <sandro> AmitSheth: 3.  Semantic annotations of resources for sensor data   
14:16:04 <sandro> AmitSheth: We've been reviewing previous work, on sensor networks, observation ontologies, sensor techniques
14:16:14 <sandro> AmitSheth: Developing several use cases.
14:16:28 <Zakim> -ChrisW
14:16:42 <AmitSheth> •	http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Reference_Use_Cases
14:16:42 <sandro> AmitSheth:  1- device discovery,   2- data discovery,   3- process provenance
14:16:55 <Zakim> +ChrisW
14:17:02 <AmitSheth> •	http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_terms
14:17:04 <danbri> (somewhat related http://www.w3.org/2010/Talks/0123-dsr-sofsem.pdf from Dave Raggett - 'Extending the Web into the Real World')
14:17:16 <AmitSheth> •	http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology
14:18:58 <AmitSheth> •	http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Markup_Draft_Deliverable
14:19:04 <sandro> AmitSheth: integrating into ogcswe documents
14:19:34 <AmitSheth> •	http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/The_Report_in_Progress
14:19:47 <ivan> q+
14:19:56 <ivan> ack ivan
14:20:56 <danbri> hmm /me wonders if an iphone is a sensor in this sense <- http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/
14:22:13 <AmitSheth> http://knoesis1.wright.edu/SSW_NEW_BETA/
14:23:24 <sandro> AmitSheth: If you want to ask the nearest sensor location, ... ... you'll see that a node shows up.     You'll see latest observation about that sensor.   uses linked data geonames.
14:25:53 <AmitSheth> http://wiki.knoesis.org/index.php/SSW
14:27:19 <AmitSheth> http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base.cgi?stn=KDAY
14:28:03 <AmitSheth> http://sws.geonames.org/4515418/
14:28:59 <AmitSheth> http://wiki.knoesis.org/index.php/SSW_Datasets
14:29:13 <ivan> q?
14:32:17 <sandro> mscottm: (describes some stuff, not understood by scribe)
14:32:35 <sandro> AmitSheth: Please mail me that information, and I'll pass it on to group.
14:32:56 <AmitSheth> amit@knoesis.org
14:33:25 <sandro> mscottm: It takes some effort to cast your work into the application that you're trying to interest.  It's a difficulty with all XGs.
14:33:42 <AmitSheth> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Participants
14:33:50 <sandro> mscottm: Try to engage with these groups.   If they read your pages, they wont understand what you're doing.
14:34:17 <sandro> AmitSheth: Fortunateiy, we have involvement from key folks, eg CSIRO.
14:36:08 <sandro> ivan: Do you envisage that the XG will suggest further work?
14:37:01 <sandro> AmitSheth: There is a value to completing the ontologies.
14:37:18 <sandro> AmitSheth: If that feeling prevails, yes, we may want to take that work to Rec.
14:37:54 <sandro> ivan: Thanks, AmitSheth!   Looking forward to final report.
14:37:56 <Zakim> -Amit
14:38:06 <sandro> AmitSheth: I'll send you the one pager now, Ivan.
14:38:23 <sandro> Topic: RDF Next Steps
14:38:41 <sandro> Ivan: Please beat the bushes; submission deadline is early April.
14:39:00 <danbri> I will chase SWIG folk (they noticed already but a deadline reminder should help)
14:39:03 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
14:39:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Tom, Ivan, Sandro, mhausenblas, mscottm, danbri, ChrisW
14:39:25 <sandro> ivan: RDF Next Steps workshop will be at Stanford, on the weekend after SemTech.
14:39:55 <TomB> http://www.w3.org/2009/12/rdf-ws/ - Workshop 26-27 June, Stanford
14:40:04 <sandro> mscottm: Who is going to SemTech?
14:40:21 <sandro> ivan: I expect Me, Sandro, EricP, and Karen, from W3C Team.
14:40:31 <sandro> chris: Christian and I are giving two different RIF presentations.
14:40:50 <sandro> mhausenblas: I'm not expecting to go, but some DERI folks will.
14:41:20 <sandro> mscottm: Aimed at industry?
14:41:57 <sandro> ivan: Yes, it's not a scientific conference.
14:42:48 <sandro> ivan: So, yes it's relevant to HCLS.
14:43:15 <sandro> ivan: Next meeting in 2 weeks, probably.
14:43:19 <sandro> ADJOURN
14:43:21 <danbri> re AOB, only as i mentioned earlier - be good to have a CG homepage in the public wiki
14:43:35 <Zakim> -ChrisW
14:43:37 <Zakim> -danbri
14:43:41 <Zakim> -Sandro
14:43:42 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
14:43:45 <Zakim> -Tom
14:43:46 <Zakim> -mscottm
14:43:48 <ivan> rrssagent, draft minutes
14:43:56 <ivan> zakim, drop me
14:43:56 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
14:43:57 <Zakim> SW_CG()9:00AM has ended
14:43:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Ivan, +1.937.775.aaaa, Tom, Amit, Sandro, mhausenblas, ChrisW, mscottm, danbri
14:44:08 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:44:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-swcg-minutes.html ivan
14:44:16 <ivan> zakim, bye
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14:44:26 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:44:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-swcg-minutes.html ivan
14:44:31 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
14:44:31 <RRSAgent> I see no action items