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20:00:13 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
20:00:13 <trackbot> Date: 04 March 2010
20:00:55 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG()3:00PM has now started
20:01:02 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:07:22 <ed> Zakim, [IP is me
20:07:22 <Zakim> +ed; got it
20:07:27 <Zakim> +Shepazu
20:08:13 <Zakim> +??P2
20:08:53 <anthony> Zakim, ??P2 is me
20:08:53 <Zakim> +anthony; got it
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20:31:32 <shepazu> scribenick: shepazu 
20:31:42 <shepazu> Topic: FXTF
20:32:11 <shepazu> ed_work: I will send out an agenda for the telcon next thursday
20:32:12 <anthony> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGTiny12/coords.html#TransformList
20:32:23 <anthony> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-2d-transforms/
20:32:59 <shepazu> shepazu: it would be good to have specific issues to discuss, rather than broader topics
20:33:17 <ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Agenda#For_the_FX_TF
20:33:51 <shepazu> ed: other things to discuss?
20:34:00 <shepazu> shepazu: administrivia?
20:37:23 <shepazu> shepazu: XSL-FO is interested in many of the same topics that will be covered in FX... gradients, transforms, text wrapping
20:37:38 <shepazu> ... small group, might not have much bandwidth
20:37:51 <shepazu> ... but we should coordinate with them
20:40:50 <shepazu> ChrisL: both SVG and XSL use XML syntaxes, which should help there
20:41:49 <shepazu> shepazu: I've request a tracker instance for #fx, and a telcon slot, x3983 (FXTF)
20:46:36 <shepazu> shepazu: need to clarify in each instance which of Doug, Chris, or Eric will communicate with the CSS WG
20:47:56 <shepazu> Topic: SVG IG Japan
20:48:37 <shepazu> shepazu: KDDI is interested in moving to the next stage with their SVG Tiling and Layering Map spec
20:49:02 <shepazu> s/KDDI/SVG IG Japan/
20:49:26 <shepazu> ChrisL: an IG can't do Rec-track work
20:49:39 <shepazu> ... which has IPR considerations
20:50:02 <shepazu> shepazu: one possible problem is that KDDI is no longer a W3C Member
20:50:16 <shepazu> ... but the spec looks interesting to me
20:50:52 <shepazu> s/an IG can't do Rec-track work/an IG can't do Rec-track work, which means this would have to be a member submission
20:51:42 <ChrisL> and the non-Member authors would need to fill in RF IPR commitments
20:57:06 <shepazu> http://blog.svg-map.com/2009/09/tiling-and-laye.html
20:58:03 <ChrisL> http://www.dryade.net/navimap_gb/svg.htm
20:59:18 <shepazu> http://www.openstreetmap.org/
21:00:11 <shepazu> ChrisL: there is some important functionality this would provide, like Level of Detail
21:00:24 <shepazu> ... and Load on Demand
21:00:37 <ChrisL> LoD can mean both Level of Detail and Load on Demand. The latter is the way to get the former
21:00:59 <shepazu> ChrisL: I think there is general interest, and others might join in the work
21:01:14 <shepazu> shepazu: which would likely mean changes to the spec
21:01:28 <shepazu> ... needs mre review
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21:02:46 <shepazu> shepazu: is this something browser vendors would be interested in implementing?
21:03:09 <shepazu> ed: I think at least some of it would be interesting to Opera, would have to see more details
21:05:49 <ed> there might be some partial overlap with css media queries, which can also be used for some cases of LOD, e.g http://people.opera.com/andreasb/demos/demos_svgopen2009/svgscalelogo.html
21:15:10 <shepazu> s/mre/more
21:15:12 <shepazu> Topic: Charter
21:15:21 <shepazu> Chris: charter ending in April
21:15:28 <shepazu> ... need to get an extension
21:15:45 <shepazu> shepazu: I've got a draft charter, still needs work
21:17:17 <shepazu> ChrisL: maybe Mapping could be added to the new charter
21:19:26 <shepazu> draft charter -> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/charter/SVG-WG-charter.html
21:29:16 <shepazu> Topic: F2F
21:29:35 <shepazu> ed: what's the status with MS as host?
21:29:55 <shepazu> shepazu: I think the ball is in our court
21:30:04 <ed> May 24 - 26 and May 31 - June 1 (hosted by Microsoft), with May 31 as an open F2F meeting with Libre Graphics community
21:30:24 <shepazu> ed: have we confirmed with LGM
21:30:28 <shepazu> ChrisL: I think so
21:30:35 <shepazu> shepazu: I will reconfirm
21:32:17 <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
21:32:17 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
21:32:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been [IPcaller], ed, Shepazu, anthony, +39.524.9.aaaa
21:32:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
21:32:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/04-svg-minutes.html trackbot
21:32:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
21:32:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items