20:45:12 RRSAgent has joined #au 20:45:12 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/03/01-au-irc 20:45:14 RRSAgent, make logs public 20:45:14 Zakim has joined #au 20:45:16 Zakim, this will be AUWG 20:45:16 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 45 minutes ago 20:45:17 Meeting: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 20:45:17 Date: 01 March 2010 20:49:14 Jan has joined #au 20:52:06 Zakim, this will be AUWG 20:52:06 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago 20:52:12 Meeting: WAI AU 20:52:21 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0082.html 20:52:31 Regrets: Ann M 20:52:38 zakim, code? 20:52:38 the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Jan 20:57:01 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 20:57:08 +Jeanne 20:58:25 +[IPcaller] 20:58:46 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan 20:58:46 +Jan; got it 20:59:14 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 20:59:27 Scribe: Jan 21:01:53 +[IPcaller] 21:02:05 + +3aaaa 21:02:18 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta 21:02:18 +Jutta; got it 21:02:28 zakim, aaaa is really Greg 21:02:28 +Greg; got it 21:04:30 Topic: 1- Working through survey questions 21:04:47 ARonksley has joined #au 21:04:50 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0088.html 21:07:39 JT: ANy other concerns besides tim? 21:07:46 JS: No - quite good 21:07:54 +??P0 21:08:16 zakim, ??P0 is really Andrew 21:08:16 +Andrew; got it 21:08:42 JT: Given results of the survey should we accept? 21:08:57 JT: Let's circle back 21:09:11 (2) Removing term "option" from glossary 21:09:51 JR: Let's wait for http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0079.html 21:09:54 JT: OK 21:10:05 Topic: (3) Adding "Encouraged" the note on checking (Tim's action) 21:10:16 Resolution: Accepted (3) Adding "Encouraged" the note on checking (Tim's action) 21:10:27 Topic: (4) Updated intent text for B.2.1.3 Other Technologies 21:11:33 Resolution: Accepted http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0067.html with GP's "content" change 21:11:44 Topic: (5) Updated intent text for B.2.2.9 Metadata for Repair 21:15:31 Resolution: Accept: (5) Updated intent text for B.2.2.9 Metadata for Repair 21:15:47 Topic: (6) Various marked edits in Appendix A: Gathering Accessibility Information from Authors 21:16:30 GP: This is informative, so I'm ok 21:17:49 JR: I agree with Jeanne's comment: Detect objects serving special functions and suggest standard labels for them (e.g., "button", "spacer", "horizontal rule", etc.). 21:18:26 Resolution: (6) Various marked edits in Appendix A: Gathering Accessibility Information from Authors BUT removing the point re: detecting special functions 21:18:37 Topic: (7) Approving responses to IBM comments on the last public WD 21:18:42 Resolution: (7) Approving responses to IBM comments on the last public WD 21:19:00 Topic: (8) E.g. added to B.1.2.2 End Product Cannot Preserve Accessibility Information: Point 1 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0071.html 21:19:06 Resolution: (8) E.g. added to B.1.2.2 End Product Cannot Preserve Accessibility Information: Point 1 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0071.html 21:19:24 Topic: (9) E.g. added to B.1.2.2 Examples Point 4 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0071.html 21:19:37 GP: Example sounded like an image editing application 21:21:33 GP it's fine\ 21:21:58 Resolution: (9) E.g. added to B.1.2.2 Examples Point 4 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0071.html 21:22:10 Topic: (10) B.2.2.8 Metadata for Discovery: AA or AAA? 21:22:31 JT: One vote for AA, one for AAA and two for neutral 21:23:16 JT: My AA rationale is that there are quite a number of initiatives now that suppport metadata for discovery 21:24:18 +Tim_Boland 21:24:44 Tim has joined #au 21:25:13 JR: If a product meets everything else...should this req prevent a level-AA? 21:26:16 JT: Gives a use case for metadata for discovery. 21:28:55 JT: Tabling (10) 21:29:06 Topic: (11) Idea of noting keyboard optimizations are good for power users 21:29:16 JR: People want discuss. 21:29:56 JR: I'd say leave out for consitency 21:29:59 AR: Happy to leave it out 21:30:09 Resolution: Not to add power user note 21:30:23 Topic: Back to 1) New proposal on replacing term: freehand drawing 21:31:06 TB: Doesn't quite understand the reason to distiguish and te distinguishing isn't very objective 21:31:15 TB: Whole wording is confusing 21:44:37 Action JR: To flesh ou the watercolor example with more details e.g. frequency and why it is practically hard to do with keyboard 21:44:37 Created ACTION-263 - Flesh ou the watercolor example with more details e.g. frequency and why it is practically hard to do with keyboard [on Jan Richards - due 2010-03-08]. 21:45:03 Action Tim: To review JR's watercolor example actionitem. 21:45:03 Sorry, couldn't find user - Tim 21:46:12 Resolution: Put in text http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0063.html as temporary 21:46:38 Topic: ATAG 2.0: Document usability - referring to authors 21:46:45 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0080.html 21:50:01 JS: I like the idea... 21:50:42 JS: But I would like to go and look through doc for other places to put it... 21:51:07 JR: I'll do it but I think it will fit everywhere - that's why we have that top section 21:51:24 Resolution: Accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0080.html 21:51:37 Topic: 3- Small wording change in B.1.3 (Accessible Auto-Generated Content) 21:53:17 Resolution: Accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0076.html 21:53:28 Topic: 4-Proposed changes to status and metadata success criteria 21:53:34 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0077.html 21:54:55 -Tim_Boland 22:01:54 Action: JR rework the metadata requirement proposal 22:01:54 Created ACTION-264 - Rework the metadata requirement proposal [on Jan Richards - due 2010-03-08]. 22:02:48 JT: tabled 22:02:53 Topic: 5- Glossary Term: "Option" 22:05:20 -Jan 22:05:21 -Greg 22:05:23 -Andrew 22:05:24 -Jutta 22:05:24 -Jeanne 22:05:25 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 22:05:26 Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, +3aaaa, Jutta, Greg, Andrew, Tim_Boland 22:05:32 next mtg Marh 8 at 4pm 22:07:24 RRSAgent, make minutes 22:07:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/01-au-minutes.html Jan 22:07:30 RRSAgent, set logs public 22:07:35 Zakim, bye 22:07:35 Zakim has left #au 22:07:40 RRSAgent, bye 22:07:40 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/01-au-actions.rdf : 22:07:40 ACTION: JR to To flesh ou the watercolor example with more details e.g. frequency and why it is practically hard to do with keyboard [1] 22:07:40 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/01-au-irc#T21-44-37 22:07:40 ACTION: Tim to To review JR's watercolor example actionitem. [2] 22:07:40 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/01-au-irc#T21-45-03 22:07:40 ACTION: JR rework the metadata requirement proposal [3] 22:07:40 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/01-au-irc#T22-01-54