RDFa Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 10 March 2011

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0050
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Benjamin Adrian, Ivan Herman, Knud Möller, Manu Sporny, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton
Chair
Manu Sporny
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Steven Pemberton
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Resolutions
  1. Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified. link
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14:46:22 <trackbot> Date: 10 March 2011
14:46:28 <manu> Chair: Manu
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15:01:06 <Zakim> + +44.123.456.aaaa

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15:01:08 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

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15:01:59 <Knud> zakim, I am aabb

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15:02:01 <Zakim> +??P17

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15:02:14 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

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15:02:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see +44.123.456.aaaa, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17

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15:02:17 <Benjamin> zakim, i am aaaa

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15:02:50 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0050
15:05:12 <manu> Topic: Updating RDFa Test Suites

1. Updating RDFa Test Suites

15:05:19 <manu> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/

Manu Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/

15:05:48 <Steven> Manu: I have made some updates for different host languages

Manu Sporny: I have made some updates for different host languages

15:06:08 <Steven> ...I need to add back the RDF 1.0 work

...I need to add back the RDF 1.0 work

15:06:16 <Zakim> +??P31

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15:06:17 <Steven> ... anyone can write and submit tests

... anyone can write and submit tests

15:06:31 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:06:35 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?

Shane McCarron: zakim, who is here?

15:06:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ??P31

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15:06:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, Knud, Benjamin, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, webr3, ivan, tinkster2, manu, manu1, trackbot

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15:06:42 <manu> https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite

Manu Sporny: https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite

15:06:47 <ShaneM> zakim, I am ??P31

Shane McCarron: zakim, I am ??P31

15:06:47 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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15:07:28 <manu> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

15:07:41 <Steven> Manu: Please add tests you come across when doing your implementations

Manu Sporny: Please add tests you come across when doing your implementations

15:07:59 <Steven> Ivan: I've had problems accessing the site

Ivan Herman: I've had problems accessing the site

15:08:13 <Steven> Manu: You should have access

Manu Sporny: You should have access

15:08:18 <Steven> Ivan: I will try again

Ivan Herman: I will try again

15:08:39 <Steven> Manu: Ping me if you have problems

Manu Sporny: Ping me if you have problems

15:09:13 <Steven> Ivan: We should ensure we use the DTDs etc for the 1.1 tests

Ivan Herman: We should ensure we use the DTDs etc for the 1.1 tests

15:09:25 <ShaneM> Feel free to use the XML Schema for validation too.

Shane McCarron: Feel free to use the XML Schema for validation too.

15:09:27 <manu> Is this the DOCTYPE you're talking about: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-2.dtd">

Manu Sporny: Is this the DOCTYPE you're talking about: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-2.dtd">

15:09:45 <Steven> ... all the 1.0 tests are in XHTML

... all the 1.0 tests are in XHTML

15:09:55 <Steven> ... do we need to repeat them in HTML5 and pure XML?

... do we need to repeat them in HTML5 and pure XML?

15:10:02 <Steven> Manu: Yes. We have an HTML5 test

Manu Sporny: Yes. We have an HTML5 test

15:10:10 <manu> HTML5 test suite uses: <!DOCTYPE html>

Manu Sporny: HTML5 testsuite suite uses: <!DOCTYPE html>

15:10:11 <Steven> s/test/testsuite/
15:10:57 <Steven> Ivan: It's nice to have SVG

Ivan Herman: It's nice to have SVG

15:11:16 <Steven> ... we now specify what it means to have a hostlanguage

... we now specify what it means to have a hostlanguage

15:11:28 <Steven> ... but we don't yet have an SVG hostlanguage

... but we don't yet have an SVG hostlanguage

15:12:03 <ShaneM> q+ to discuss media types

Shane McCarron: q+ to discuss media types

15:12:06 <Steven> Manu: We use media type to identify the content types

Manu Sporny: We use media type to identify the content types

15:12:17 <manu> ack shanem

Manu Sporny: ack shanem

15:12:17 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to discuss media types

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15:12:33 <Steven> Shane: XHTML5+RDFa?

Shane McCarron: XHTML5+RDFa?

15:12:42 <ivan> header http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/test-cases/0001.xhtmlHTTP/1.1 200 OK

Ivan Herman: header http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/test-suite/test-cases/0001.xhtmlHTTP/1.1 200 OK

15:12:43 <ivan> Date Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:12:24 GMT

Ivan Herman: Date Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:12:24 GMT

15:12:43 <Steven> Manu: Yes...

Manu Sporny: Yes...

15:12:43 <ivan> Server Apache/2.2.16 (Debian)

Ivan Herman: Server Apache/2.2.16 (Debian)

15:12:43 <ivan> Vary Accept-Encoding

Ivan Herman: Vary Accept-Encoding

15:12:43 <ivan> Content-Type text/html

Ivan Herman: Content-Type text/html

15:12:50 <Steven> Shane: Media type?

Shane McCarron: Media type?

15:13:05 <Steven> Steven: Same as XHTML1.1

Steven Pemberton: Same as XHTML1.1

15:13:32 <Steven> Ivan: I've just tried, and it doesn't seem to be working right

Ivan Herman: I've just tried, and it doesn't seem to be working right

15:13:36 <Steven> Manu: I'll check

Manu Sporny: I'll check

15:13:51 <ivan> alias header='curl --head '

Ivan Herman: alias header='curl --head '

15:14:01 <Steven> SHane: Your client has to say it accepts the media type in order to get it

Shane McCarron: Your client has to say it accepts the media type in order to get it

15:14:22 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
15:14:35 <Steven> Ivan: I don't think curl sends an accept header

Ivan Herman: I don't think curl sends an accept header

15:14:55 <Steven> Manu: Oh, I don't change the content type. Bug. Will fix

Manu Sporny: Oh, I don't change the content type. Bug. Will fix

15:15:56 <Steven> Shane: If XHTML5 uses the same media type as XHTML 1 (and it does) then we don't know what versio

Shane McCarron: If XHTML5 uses the same media type as XHTML 1 (and it does) then we don't know what versio

15:16:12 <Steven> Steven: There is no difference in processing between XHTML5 and 1.1 surely

Steven Pemberton: There is no difference in processing between XHTML5 and 1.1 surely

15:16:16 <Steven> Ivan: Right

Ivan Herman: Right

15:16:21 <Steven> Shane: Not yet...

Shane McCarron: Not yet...

15:17:06 <Steven> Ivan: The two are esssentially the same from an RDFa POV

Ivan Herman: The two are esssentially the same from an RDFa POV

15:17:08 <Steven> Shane: OK

Shane McCarron: OK

15:17:33 <Steven> Shane: Therefore we don't need a separate XHTML5+RDFa testsuite then

Shane McCarron: Therefore we don't need a separate XHTML5+RDFa testsuite then

15:17:51 <Steven> Manu: I need to think about it more

Manu Sporny: I need to think about it more

15:18:27 <Steven> Manu: we could have a separate selector for XHTML5 though

Manu Sporny: we could have a separate selector for XHTML5 though

15:19:11 <Steven> ... the DOCTYPE of the result would change

... the DOCTYPE of the result would change

15:19:36 <Steven> ... the RDFa rules don't take the DOCTYPE into account though

... the RDFa rules don't take the DOCTYPE into account though

15:19:37 <Steven> Subtopic: Guessing Content-Type and DOCTYPE/root element sniffing

1.1. Guessing Content-Type and DOCTYPE/root element sniffing

15:21:03 <Steven> Shane: There was a thread in the last 5 days

Shane McCarron: There was a thread in the last 5 days

15:21:35 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/thread.html

Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/thread.html

15:22:00 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0037.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0037.html

15:22:36 <Steven> Shane: He asked if it's OK to look at the root element

Shane McCarron: He asked if it's OK to look at the root element

15:23:16 <Steven> ... to determine the document type

... to determine the document type

15:23:38 <Steven> ... but you don't get a media type in a filesystem, so how do you know?

... but you don't get a media type in a filesystem, so how do you know?

15:24:02 <Steven> Ivan: FIlename extensions are used to map to media types

Ivan Herman: Filename extensions are used to map to media types

15:24:08 <ShaneM> Gregg said in his mail: "I guess what concerns me is the requirements of a conforming processor. This depends on the interpretation of the third sentence (If the RDFa Processor is unable ...). I would hope/expect that a processor which uses unspecified heuristics to determine the document type (e.g., file extension, root element name, etc.) would not be inconsistent with this definition. If this leaves room for other forms of identification, perhaps the spec shoul

Shane McCarron: Gregg said in his mail: "I guess what concerns me is the requirements of a conforming processor. This depends on the interpretation of the third sentence (If the RDFa Processor is unable ...). I would hope/expect that a processor which uses unspecified heuristics to determine the document type (e.g., file extension, root element name, etc.) would not be inconsistent with this definition. If this leaves room for other forms of identification, perhaps the spec shoul

15:24:09 <Steven> s/FI/Fi/
15:24:35 <Steven> Shane: It is not required though

Shane McCarron: It is not required though

15:24:44 <Steven> Ivan: It is the only way I can see it working

Ivan Herman: It is the only way I can see it working

15:25:46 <Steven> Shane: Gregg wants to know if you are nonconforming if you sniff

Shane McCarron: Gregg wants to know if you are nonconforming if you sniff

15:26:13 <Steven> Manu: The decision to sniff happens after all other means have failed.

Manu Sporny: The decision to sniff happens after all other means have failed.

15:26:19 <Steven> ... we don't need to specify that

... we don't need to specify that

15:26:56 <Steven> ... do we think there are many people with this issue?

... do we think there are many people with this issue?

15:27:02 <Steven> ... I don't think so

... I don't think so

15:27:48 <Steven> Shane: But, if you don't specify it, you won't get interoperability

Shane McCarron: But, if you don't specify it, you won't get interoperability

15:27:58 <Steven> ... I agree we don't need to lock it down

... I agree we don't need to lock it down

15:28:30 <Steven> ... "We don't specify behaviour in the environment of incorrect input"

... "We don't specify behaviour in the environment of incorrect input"

15:29:01 <Steven> Manu: I propose leaving it unspecified. Any objections?

Manu Sporny: I propose leaving it unspecified. Any objections?

15:29:33 <Steven> Shane: Do we say that in the spec?

Shane McCarron: Do we say that in the spec?

15:29:39 <Steven> Manu: Probably

Manu Sporny: Probably

15:30:15 <ShaneM> I proposed: "If the media type is unavailable, a conforming RDFa Processor MAY look at the document's DOCTYPE to determine if its Formal Public Identifier matches that of a known Host Language."

Shane McCarron: I proposed: "If the media type is unavailable, a conforming RDFa Processor MAY look at the document's DOCTYPE to determine if its Formal Public Identifier matches that of a known Host Language."

15:30:28 <ShaneM> no reason to say this though

Shane McCarron: no reason to say this though

15:30:39 <Steven> Shane: Or use a note

Shane McCarron: Or use a note

15:31:24 <ShaneM> NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable.  These mechanisms are unspecified.

Shane McCarron: NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.

15:33:03 <ShaneM> NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable.  These mechanisms are unspecified.

Shane McCarron: NOTE A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.

15:33:19 <Steven> Manu: I like that text

Manu Sporny: I like that text

15:33:20 <manu> PROPOSAL: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.

PROPOSED: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.

15:33:23 <Steven> Ivan: It's fine

Ivan Herman: It's fine

15:33:37 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

15:33:41 <Knud> +1

Knud Möller: +1

15:33:41 <Steven> ... I don't want to be obliged to do sniffing

... I don't want to be obliged to do sniffing

15:33:45 <Steven> +1

+1

15:33:47 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

15:34:00 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

15:34:02 <manu> RESOLVED: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.

RESOLVED: Add text to the RDFa Core document specifying a note that reads: NOTE: A conforming RDFa Processor MAY use additional mechanisms (e.g., the DOCTYPE, a file extension, the root element) to attempt to determine the Host Language if the media type is unavailable. These mechanisms are unspecified.

15:37:17 <manu> https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite/blob/master/crazyivan.js#L272

Manu Sporny: https://github.com/msporny/rdfa-test-suite/blob/master/crazyivan.js#L272

15:38:18 <Steven> Manu: We are not going to review test cases; we'll hear about it from users if any are wrong

Manu Sporny: We are not going to review test cases; we'll hear about it from users if any are wrong

15:38:28 <Steven> ... OK with that?

... OK with that?

15:38:41 <manu> Topic: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 2nd Last Call

2. RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 2nd Last Call

15:39:00 <Steven> ManU: I sent emails to all reviews of LC1

Manu Sporny: I sent emails to all reviews of LC1

15:39:06 <Steven> s/U/u/
15:39:46 <Steven> ... we have done our duty

... we have done our duty

15:40:21 <Steven> Ivan: We don't need a reply; it would be good though

Ivan Herman: We don't need a reply; it would be good though

15:40:44 <Steven> Manu: Nathan has to reply to Ian Hickson

Manu Sporny: Nathan has to reply to Ian Hickson

15:41:02 <Steven> ... I haven't seen that reply yet

... I haven't seen that reply yet

15:41:17 <Steven> ... Issue-66

... ISSUE-66

15:41:52 <manu> Nathan is supposed to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/66 and http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/76

Manu Sporny: Nathan is supposed to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/66 and http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/76

15:42:07 <manu> Toby has to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/74

Manu Sporny: Toby has to respond to: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/74

15:42:21 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone?

15:42:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM

15:42:49 <Steven> Manu: We need to do these

Manu Sporny: We need to do these

15:43:35 <Steven> ... let's delay for a week to let them do that

... let's delay for a week to let them do that

15:44:04 <Steven> Ivan: Maybe we should send replies

Ivan Herman: Maybe we should send replies

15:46:15 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call?

15:46:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, Ivan, Steven, Knud, ??P17, ShaneM

15:46:26 <manu> zakim, ??P17 is me

Manu Sporny: zakim, ??P17 is me

15:46:26 <Zakim> +manu; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +manu; got it

15:46:38 <Steven> web3r++

webr3++

15:46:48 <Steven> s/3r/r3/
15:47:17 <Steven> Manu: Delay a week?

Manu Sporny: Delay a week?

15:47:20 <Steven> Ivan: No

Ivan Herman: No

15:47:46 <Steven> Steven: But that risks LC3

Steven Pemberton: But that risks LC3

15:47:52 <Steven> Ivan: OK

Ivan Herman: OK

15:49:43 <Steven> Manu: THe TAG says we should clarify that we cannot follow the specs to figure out what a fragid means when you use it in the way RDFa uses it

Manu Sporny: The TAG says we should clarify that we cannot follow the specs to figure out what a fragid means when you use it in the way RDFa uses it

15:49:48 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
15:49:55 <manu> about="#me"

Manu Sporny: about="#me"

15:50:28 <Steven> Steven: I hate that. Foaf:PrimaryTopicOf is much better

Steven Pemberton: I hate that. Foaf:PrimaryTopicOf is much better

15:51:01 <ShaneM> I note that the TAG's job is to be pedantic.

Shane McCarron: I note that the TAG's job is to be pedantic.

15:51:12 <Steven> Manu: The TAG says it is fine to use #me, but we need to say that you can't work out what it is

Manu Sporny: The TAG says it is fine to use #me, but we need to say that you can't work out what it is

15:51:14 <manu> "In some of the examples below we have used URIs with fragment ids

Manu Sporny: "In some of the examples below we have used URIs with fragment ids

15:51:15 <manu> that are local to the document containing the RDFa fragments shown

Manu Sporny: that are local to the document containing the RDFa fragments shown

15:51:17 <manu> (e.g. 'about="#me"'). This idiom, which is also used in RDF/XML and

Manu Sporny: (e.g. 'about="#me"'). This idiom, which is also used in RDF/XML and

15:51:18 <manu> other RDF serializations, gives a simple way to 'mint' new URIs for

Manu Sporny: other RDF serializations, gives a simple way to 'mint' new URIs for

15:51:20 <manu> entities described by RDFa and therefore contributes considerably to

Manu Sporny: entities described by RDFa and therefore contributes considerably to

15:51:21 <manu> the expressive power of RDFa. However, the media type registrations

Manu Sporny: the expressive power of RDFa. However, the media type registrations

15:51:23 <manu> that govern the meaning of fragment identifiers (see section 3.5 of

Manu Sporny: that govern the meaning of fragment identifiers (see section 3.5 of

15:51:23 <Steven> Shane: It is nonnormative.

Shane McCarron: It is nonnormative.

15:51:24 <manu> the URI specification RFC 3986, RFC 3023, and RFC 2854) have not yet

Manu Sporny: the URI specification RFC 3986, RFC 3023, and RFC 2854) have not yet

15:51:26 <manu> caught up with this practice. Uses of fragment identifiers that are

Manu Sporny: caught up with this practice. Uses of fragment identifiers that are

15:51:27 <manu> arbitrarily different from the meaning they are assigned by the

Manu Sporny: arbitrarily different from the meaning they are assigned by the

15:51:29 <manu> relevant media type registrations (eg. via @id) should be avoided. See

Manu Sporny: relevant media type registrations (eg. via @id) should be avoided. See

15:51:30 <manu> also AWWW 3.2.1."

Manu Sporny: also AWWW 3.2.1."

15:51:50 <Steven> Shane: The TAG should give us text iof they think it's so importnant

Shane McCarron: The TAG should give us text if they think it's so important

15:51:51 <manu> I think that change is fine

Manu Sporny: I think that change is fine

15:51:55 <Steven> s/nant/ant/
15:53:21 <Steven> s/iof/if/
15:55:19 <Steven> Shane: Is this about using #id when there is no such id?

Shane McCarron: Is this about using #id when there is no such id?

15:55:39 <Steven> Manu: There is no spec that specifies the use of this use of fragids

Manu Sporny: There is no spec that specifies the use of this use of fragids

15:55:55 <Steven> Ivan: We're wasting time on this

Ivan Herman: We're wasting time on this

15:56:06 <Steven> Steven: It's our own fault for using it in our examples

Steven Pemberton: It's our own fault for using it in our examples

15:57:51 <Steven> Manu: OK with the text I pasted?

Manu Sporny: OK with the text I pasted?

15:57:57 <Steven> Shane: Up to the last sentence

Shane McCarron: Up to the last sentence

15:58:06 <Steven> Manu: I will strike it

Manu Sporny: I will strike it

15:58:09 <ShaneM> Strike the last sentence and move on.

Shane McCarron: Strike the last sentence and move on.

15:58:15 <Steven> +1

+1

15:58:17 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

15:59:09 <Steven> Steven: Next week's call is an hour earlier for Europeans

Steven Pemberton: Next week's call is an hour earlier for Europeans

16:00:16 <Steven> Shane: New dated ED?

Shane McCarron: New dated ED?

16:00:25 <Steven> Manu: Nah. Just make the changes

Manu Sporny: Nah. Just make the changes

16:00:48 <Steven> ... ping Gregg

... ping Gregg

16:00:52 <Steven> Shane: Already done

Shane McCarron: Already done

16:00:55 <Steven> [ADJOURN]

[ADJOURN]

16:00:56 <Zakim> -manu

Zakim IRC Bot: -manu

16:00:57 <Zakim> -Knud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Knud

16:00:58 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

16:00:58 <ivan> zakim, drop me

Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me

16:00:59 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected

16:00:59 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

16:01:00 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

16:01:09 <Zakim> -Benjamin

Zakim IRC Bot: -Benjamin

16:01:10 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

16:01:11 <Zakim> Attendees were +44.123.456.aaaa, Ivan, Steven, +3539149aabb, Knud, Benjamin, ShaneM, manu

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +44.123.456.aaaa, Ivan, Steven, +3539149aabb, Knud, Benjamin, ShaneM, manu

16:01:14 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

16:01:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/10-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/10-rdfa-minutes.html Steven



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This revision (#1) generated 2011-03-10 16:17:17 UTC by 'msporny', comments: 'Minor fix-ups to the Agenda'