RDFa Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 03 June 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0007.html
Present
Steven Pemberton, Ivan Herman, Benjamin Adrian, Manu Sporny, Mark Birbeck, Shane McCarron, Toby Inkster
Regrets
Ben Adida
Chair
Manu Sporny
Scribe
Mark Birbeck
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Remove 'rdfa' interface from RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()' link
  2. Remove indexed getter methods from RDF Triple interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD. link
  3. Add notes to RDFa DOM API FPWD that make it clear that the .iterate() method is a feature that will almost certainly change. link
  4. Publish the current RDFa DOM API document, including the changes RESOLVED on the telecon today, as a FPWD. link
  5. The short-name for the RDFa DOM API should be "rdfa-api" link
  6. The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API" link
  7. When two profiles in the same @profile attribute contradict, the left-most declaration takes precedence. link
Topics
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13:53:03 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
13:53:03 <trackbot> Date: 03 June 2010
13:53:09 <manu_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0007.html
13:53:13 <manu_> Chair: Manu
13:53:22 <manu_> Present: Steven, Ivan, Benjamin, Manu, markb, shane, toby
13:53:24 <manu_> Regrets: Bena
13:59:00 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

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Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

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14:00:31 <Zakim> +McCarron

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14:00:49 <manu_> zakim, I am IPCaller

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14:01:03 <Zakim> +??P2

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14:01:28 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here

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14:01:33 <Zakim> sorry, manu_, I do not see a party named 'IPCaller'

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14:01:42 <ivan> zakim, ??P2 is manu

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14:02:08 <Zakim> ShaneM, you need to end that query with '?'

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14:02:20 <Steven> My current call is overrunning; on my way shortly

Steven Pemberton: My current call is overrunning; on my way shortly

14:02:26 <Benjamin> zakim, aaaa is Benjamin

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, aaaa is Benjamin

14:02:30 <manu_> Zakim, I am ??P2

Manu Sporny: Zakim, I am ??P2

14:02:31 <Zakim> +manu; got it

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14:02:51 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it

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14:02:55 <Zakim> sorry, manu_, I do not see a party named '??P2'

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14:03:12 <ivan> zakim, who is here?

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14:03:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, Benjamin, McCarron, manu

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14:03:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, RRSAgent, trackbot, Zakim, Benjamin, manu_, Steven, tinkster1, csarven, ivan

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14:05:14 <ShaneM> Zakim, McCarron is ShaneM

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14:05:14 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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14:05:50 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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14:05:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

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14:06:18 <Zakim> + +0785583aabb

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14:07:07 <Zakim> + +0208761aacc

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14:07:17 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aacc

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14:07:17 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it

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14:07:23 <ivan> zakim, aabb is tinkster

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14:07:23 <Zakim> +tinkster; got it

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14:07:58 <ivan> scribenick: markbirbeck

(Scribe set to Mark Birbeck)

14:09:33 <markbirbeck> TOPIC: RDFa DOM API

1. RDFa DOM API

14:09:35 <Benjamin> zakim, mute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, mute me

14:09:36 <manu_> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/

14:09:37 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

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14:09:48 <markbirbeck> Manu: I think we're pretty much ready for FPWD.

Manu Sporny: I think we're pretty much ready for FPWD.

14:10:00 <manu_> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/#dom-node-filters

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/#dom-node-filters

14:10:14 <markbirbeck> ...There are some potential changes that have been discussed on the mailing-list.

...There are some potential changes that have been discussed on the mailing-list.

14:10:41 <markbirbeck> ...Consensus seems to be that we can get rid of this interface entirely.

...Consensus seems to be that we can get rid of this interface entirely.

14:11:13 <markbirbeck> ...The containsRdfa() is a little more contentious -- I haven't heard back from Benjamin yet.

...The containsRdfa() is a little more contentious -- I haven't heard back from Benjamin yet.

14:11:40 <markbirbeck> ...The argument for removing it is that documents contain RDFa simply by having a stylesheet, so this method doesn't help us much.

...The argument for removing it is that documents contain RDFa simply by having a stylesheet, so this method doesn't help us much.

14:12:14 <Benjamin> zakim, unmute me

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14:12:14 <Zakim> Benjamin should no longer be muted

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14:12:18 <markbirbeck> ...Counter-argument is that it allows you to test for the presence of items with a query.

...Counter-argument is that it allows you to test for the presence of items with a query.

14:12:19 <Benjamin> q+

Benjamin Adrian: q+

14:12:24 <manu_> ack Benjamin

Manu Sporny: ack Benjamin

14:12:46 <markbirbeck> Benjamin: Happy to see them removed.

Benjamin Adrian: Happy to see them removed.

14:13:58 <markbirbeck> Mark: In my implementation I use ask() which is based on SPARQL's 'ASK'.

Mark Birbeck: In my implementation I use ask() which is based on SPARQL's 'ASK'.

14:14:14 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Would also like to see a count of number of triples in the store.

Ivan Herman: Would also like to see a count of number of triples in the store.

14:14:16 <Benjamin> zakim, mute me

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14:14:16 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

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14:14:23 <markbirbeck> Manu: Pretty sure we have this.

Manu Sporny: Pretty sure we have this.

14:14:34 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:14:39 <manu_> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:14:44 <markbirbeck> ...Can remove these things before FPWD.

...Can remove these things before FPWD.

14:14:49 <markbirbeck> ...Anything else?

...Anything else?

14:14:58 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Have two questions.

Ivan Herman: Have two questions.

14:15:11 <markbirbeck> ...RDFTriple interface has a strange FORTRAN feel to it.

...RDFTriple interface has a strange FORTRAN feel to it.

14:15:14 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-work

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14:15:15 <Zakim> +Steven

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14:15:54 <markbirbeck> ...Any reason for not going direct to subject/predicate/object properties?

...Any reason for not going direct to subject/predicate/object properties?

14:16:22 <markbirbeck> Manu: Originally had a tuple method way of accessing, but we probably don't need this any longer.

Manu Sporny: Originally had a tuple method way of accessing, but we probably don't need this any longer.

14:16:24 <Benjamin> zakim, unmute me

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14:16:24 <Zakim> Benjamin should no longer be muted

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14:16:31 <markbirbeck> ...Benjamin, do you have any thoughts on this?

...Benjamin, do you have any thoughts on this?

14:17:06 <markbirbeck> Benjamin: We did this to support list comprehensions. But then we found out that we can't do them.

Benjamin Adrian: We did this to support list comprehensions. But then we found out that we can't do them.

14:17:15 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Propose that we nuke those as well.

Ivan Herman: Propose that we nuke those as well.

14:17:23 <Benjamin> zakim, mute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, mute me

14:17:23 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

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14:17:30 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:17:54 <ShaneM> zakim, who is noisy?

Shane McCarron: zakim, who is noisy?

14:18:05 <Zakim> ShaneM, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: manu (38%), markbirbeck (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: manu (38%), markbirbeck (4%)

14:18:12 <manu_> PROPOSAL: Remove 'rdfa' interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()'

PROPOSED: Remove 'rdfa' interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()'

14:18:21 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:18:22 <manu_> PROPOSAL: Remove 'rdfa' interface from RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()'

PROPOSED: Remove 'rdfa' interface from RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()'

14:18:32 <manu_> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:18:35 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:18:40 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:18:42 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:18:52 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:18:53 <Steven> No opinion

Steven Pemberton: No opinion

14:19:04 <manu_> RESOLVED: Remove 'rdfa' interface from RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()'

RESOLVED: Remove 'rdfa' interface from RDFa DOM API FPWD including 'getElements()' and 'containsRDFa()'

14:20:02 <manu_> PROPOSAL: Remove indexed getter methods from RDF Triple interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD.

PROPOSED: Remove indexed getter methods from RDF Triple interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD.

14:20:03 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:20:04 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:20:09 <manu_> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:20:10 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:20:16 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:20:30 <Steven> =0

Steven Pemberton: =0

14:20:31 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:20:53 <manu_> RESOLVED: Remove indexed getter methods from RDF Triple interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD.

RESOLVED: Remove indexed getter methods from RDF Triple interface for RDFa DOM API FPWD.

14:21:22 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Also would like to bring up the question of the parser interface that was discussed on the list.

Ivan Herman: Also would like to bring up the question of the parser interface that was discussed on the list.

14:21:39 <manu_> q+

Manu Sporny: q+

14:21:53 <markbirbeck> Manu: Like the proposal on the list.

Manu Sporny: Like the proposal on the list.

14:22:13 <manu_> ack manu_

Manu Sporny: ack manu_

14:23:44 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:23:55 <manu_> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:24:01 <markbirbeck> Mark: What about removing parse.iterate()?

Mark Birbeck: What about removing parse.iterate()?

14:24:24 <manu_> q+

Manu Sporny: q+

14:24:25 <tinkster> ivan++

Toby Inkster: ivan++

14:24:31 <manu_> ack manu_

Manu Sporny: ack manu_

14:24:36 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Agree with this, but would prefer to issue with a note, and leave this until next time.

Ivan Herman: Agree with this, but would prefer to issue with a note, and leave this until next time.

14:26:40 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:26:45 <manu_> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:27:19 <markbirbeck> Manu: Feel uneasy changing it.

Manu Sporny: Feel uneasy changing it.

14:27:55 <markbirbeck> Ivan: People implementing should know that it's an FPWD.

Ivan Herman: People implementing should know that it's an FPWD.

14:27:57 <markbirbeck> q+

q+

14:28:04 <manu_> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

14:29:48 <Benjamin> zakim, unmute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, unmute me

14:29:48 <Zakim> Benjamin should no longer be muted

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14:29:52 <Benjamin> q+

Benjamin Adrian: q+

14:30:02 <markbirbeck> Manu: Just looking to see how easy it would be to take this out.

Manu Sporny: Just looking to see how easy it would be to take this out.

14:30:33 <markbirbeck> Benjamin: What are we talking about removing? The TripleIterator?

Benjamin Adrian: What are we talking about removing? The TripleIterator?

14:30:52 <markbirbeck> Manu: Yes, it's what used to be the TripleIterator....it's the DataIterator.

Manu Sporny: Yes, it's what used to be the TripleIterator....it's the DataIterator.

14:32:17 <Benjamin> zakim, mute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, mute me

14:32:17 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

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14:33:12 <manu_> PROPOSAL: Add notes to RDFa DOM API FPWD that make it clear that the .iterate() method is a feature that will almost certainly change.

PROPOSED: Add notes to RDFa DOM API FPWD that make it clear that the .iterate() method is a feature that will almost certainly change.

14:33:14 <markbirbeck> Manu: There are 18 places where this is referenced, so would be too much work to change now.

Manu Sporny: There are 18 places where this is referenced, so would be too much work to change now.

14:33:27 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:33:31 <manu_> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:33:32 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:33:35 <markbirbeck> Mark: Can live with this, provided that there is a clear note.

Mark Birbeck: Can live with this, provided that there is a clear note.

14:33:37 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:33:43 <Benjamin> 0

Benjamin Adrian: 0

14:33:45 <Steven> OK

Steven Pemberton: OK

14:33:55 <Benjamin> zakim, unmute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, unmute me

14:33:55 <Zakim> Benjamin should no longer be muted

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14:34:10 <ShaneM> +0

Shane McCarron: +0

14:34:15 <manu_> RESOLVED: Add notes to RDFa DOM API FPWD that make it clear that the .iterate() method is a feature that will almost certainly change.

RESOLVED: Add notes to RDFa DOM API FPWD that make it clear that the .iterate() method is a feature that will almost certainly change.

14:34:30 <markbirbeck> Benjamin: Didn't really understand the criticism of the interface, so would prefer to see further discussion.

Benjamin Adrian: Didn't really understand the criticism of the interface, so would prefer to see further discussion.

14:34:40 <Benjamin> zakim, mute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, mute me

14:34:40 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

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14:38:31 <markbirbeck> Mark: One last question relates to the removal of '?' from the select() method. Is this a typo?

Mark Birbeck: One last question relates to the removal of '?' from the select() method. Is this a typo?

14:38:44 <markbirbeck> Manu: No. The query is now separate from the results template.

Manu Sporny: No. The query is now separate from the results template.

14:39:01 <manu_> PROPOSAL: Publish the current RDFa DOM API document, including the changes RESOLVED on the telecon today, as a FPWD.

PROPOSED: Publish the current RDFa DOM API document, including the changes RESOLVED on the telecon today, as a FPWD.

14:39:04 <markbirbeck> Mark: Ah...will propose that we revert after FPWD. :)

Mark Birbeck: Ah...will propose that we revert after FPWD. :)

14:39:04 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:39:09 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:39:11 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:39:11 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:39:11 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

14:39:16 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:39:19 <manu_> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:39:26 <ivan> clap clap clap

Ivan Herman: clap clap clap

14:39:33 <markbirbeck> Excellent work guys.

Excellent work guys.

14:39:52 <manu_> RESOLVED: Publish the current RDFa DOM API document, including the changes RESOLVED on the telecon today, as a FPWD.

RESOLVED: Publish the current RDFa DOM API document, including the changes RESOLVED on the telecon today, as a FPWD.

14:40:05 <markbirbeck> Manu: Should the short name be 'rdfa-dom-api'?

Manu Sporny: Should the short name be 'rdfa-dom-api'?

14:40:12 <tinkster> or "rdfa-api"?

Toby Inkster: or "rdfa-api"?

14:40:14 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Support that and we should propose it.

Ivan Herman: Support that and we should propose it.

14:41:10 <manu_> PROPOSAL: The short-name for the RDFa DOM API should be "rdfa-api"

PROPOSED: The short-name for the RDFa DOM API should be "rdfa-api"

14:41:13 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

14:41:14 <markbirbeck> Manu: Would anyone prefer having 'dom' in there?

Manu Sporny: Would anyone prefer having 'dom' in there?

14:41:15 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:41:17 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:41:20 <manu_> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:41:20 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:41:27 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:42:00 <manu_> PROPOSAL: The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API 1.1"

PROPOSED: The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API 1.1"

14:42:06 <tinkster> +0.5

Toby Inkster: +0.5

14:42:06 <manu_> RESOLVED: The short-name for the RDFa DOM API should be "rdfa-api"

RESOLVED: The short-name for the RDFa DOM API should be "rdfa-api"

14:42:14 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:42:18 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:42:19 <markbirbeck> Shouldn't it be "RDFa 1.1 API"?

Shouldn't it be "RDFa 1.1 API"?

14:42:32 <markbirbeck> -1

-1

14:42:33 <markbirbeck> :)

:)

14:44:04 <markbirbeck> Manu: Does the title always need to contain a version number at the end?

Manu Sporny: Does the title always need to contain a version number at the end?

14:44:07 <markbirbeck> Shane: No.

Shane McCarron: No.

14:44:17 <markbirbeck> ...Does the spec have a dependency on RDFa 1.1?

...Does the spec have a dependency on RDFa 1.1?

14:44:23 <ShaneM> I like rdfa-api for a short name...

Shane McCarron: I like rdfa-api for a short name...

14:44:59 <manu_> PROPOSAL: The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API"

PROPOSED: The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API"

14:45:03 <manu_> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:45:07 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:45:15 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:45:15 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:45:20 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:45:32 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:45:39 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Would you like to add my diagram?

Ivan Herman: Would you like to add my diagram?

14:45:40 <markbirbeck> q+

q+

14:46:40 <ShaneM> I'm not excited about introducing the diagram right now

Shane McCarron: I'm not excited about introducing the diagram right now

14:46:53 <markbirbeck> Manu: Time constraints say not.

Manu Sporny: Time constraints say not.

14:46:59 <Benjamin> no it was an old one

Benjamin Adrian: no it was an old one

14:47:03 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

14:47:05 <Benjamin> zakim, unmute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, unmute me

14:47:05 <Zakim> Benjamin should no longer be muted

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14:47:08 <markbirbeck> Mark: Nice diagram, but would prefer that it was a proper UML one.

Mark Birbeck: Nice diagram, but would prefer that it was a proper UML one.

14:47:27 <manu_> RESOLVED: The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API"

RESOLVED: The title for the RDFa DOM API document should be changed from "RDFa DOM API 1.1" to "RDFa API"

14:47:28 <Benjamin> zakim, mute me

Benjamin Adrian: zakim, mute me

14:47:28 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Benjamin should now be muted

14:49:04 <markbirbeck> TOPIC: ISSUE-23 @profile order

2. ISSUE-23 @profile order

14:49:31 <markbirbeck> Manu: We delayed the vote to give me time to respond.

Manu Sporny: We delayed the vote to give me time to respond.

14:49:45 <markbirbeck> ...Mark argued that it was up to the language to choose the processing order.

...Mark argued that it was up to the language to choose the processing order.

14:50:01 <markbirbeck> ...However, the languages we have do 'last takes priority'.

...However, the languages we have do 'last takes priority'.

14:50:03 <markbirbeck> q+

q+

14:50:11 <manu_> ack benjamin

Manu Sporny: ack benjamin

14:50:18 <manu_> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

14:52:10 <manu_> zakim, mute benjamin

Manu Sporny: zakim, mute benjamin

14:52:10 <Zakim> Benjamin should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Benjamin should now be muted

14:53:32 <markbirbeck> Ivan: Microformats usage has more weight.

Ivan Herman: Microformats usage has more weight.

14:53:56 <markbirbeck> Manu: How should we word this? Does the left-most take precedence, or are they processed in reverse order?

Manu Sporny: How should we word this? Does the left-most take precedence, or are they processed in reverse order?

14:53:59 <manu_> PROPOSAL: When two profiles in the same @profile attribute contradict, the left-most declaration takes precedence.

PROPOSED: When two profiles in the same @profile attribute contradict, the left-most declaration takes precedence.

14:54:05 <manu_> +0

Manu Sporny: +0

14:54:08 <markbirbeck> Toby: Precedence is better.

Toby Inkster: Precedence is better.

14:54:11 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:54:18 <Benjamin> +1

Benjamin Adrian: +1

14:54:22 <markbirbeck> +1

+1

14:54:33 <Steven> +0

Steven Pemberton: +0

14:54:36 <markbirbeck> Shane: Should this go in the processing rules or in the definition of the attribute?

Shane McCarron: Should this go in the processing rules or in the definition of the attribute?

14:54:38 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:54:52 <markbirbeck> Toby: It's already in there now but with the wrong wording.

Toby Inkster: It's already in there now but with the wrong wording.

14:55:01 <markbirbeck> Shane: No it's not.

Shane McCarron: No it's not.

14:55:05 <markbirbeck> Toby: Yes it is.

Toby Inkster: Yes it is.

14:55:12 <markbirbeck> Shane: No it's not.

Shane McCarron: No it's not.

14:55:18 <markbirbeck> Toby: Yes it is.

Toby Inkster: Yes it is.

14:55:35 <manu_> RESOLVED: When two profiles in the same @profile attribute contradict, the left-most declaration takes precedence.

RESOLVED: When two profiles in the same @profile attribute contradict, the left-most declaration takes precedence.

14:56:08 <markbirbeck> TOPIC: Error reporting

3. Error reporting

14:56:17 <markbirbeck> Moved to next telecon.

Moved to next telecon.

14:56:23 <markbirbeck> TOPIC: JSON-LD

4. JSON-LD

14:56:25 <manu_> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/source/json-ld/

Manu Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/source/json-ld/

14:56:36 <markbirbeck> Manu: Originates from Mark's RDFj work.

Manu Sporny: Originates from Mark's RDFj work.

14:56:41 <markbirbeck> (Thanks. :) )

(Thanks. :) )

14:57:20 <markbirbeck> ....Uses RDFa's concept of a 'context' so that CURIEs can be used in JSON.

....Uses RDFa's concept of a 'context' so that CURIEs can be used in JSON.

14:58:17 <markbirbeck> ...Discussed with various groups and there is a lot of interest.

...Discussed with various groups and there is a lot of interest.

14:58:28 <markbirbeck> ...Dovetails with RDFa API.

...Dovetails with RDFa API.

14:58:40 <markbirbeck> (Jason LD...sounds like a rapper.)

(Jason LD...sounds like a rapper.)

14:58:45 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:58:53 <markbirbeck> Manu: Comments?

Manu Sporny: Comments?

14:59:14 <markbirbeck> Ivan: We have an RDF Next Steps workshop in a few weeks.

Ivan Herman: We have an RDF Next Steps workshop in a few weeks.

14:59:34 <markbirbeck> ...One of the topics is a JSON serialisation.

...One of the topics is a JSON serialisation.

15:00:07 <ShaneM> What do people think of:

Shane McCarron: What do people think of:

15:00:07 <ShaneM> <p>If any conflict arises between two RDFa Profiles associated with URIs in the <aref>profile</aref> value, the declaration from the RDFa Profile associated with the left-most URI takes precedence.</p> ?

Shane McCarron: <p>If any conflict arises between two RDFa Profiles associated with URIs in the <aref>profile</aref> value, the declaration from the RDFa Profile associated with the left-most URI takes precedence.</p> ?

15:02:18 <Zakim> -tinkster

Zakim IRC Bot: -tinkster

15:07:22 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDF/NextStepWorkshop

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