IRC log of xproc on 2010-02-25

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15:59:20 [Norm]
Zakim, this will be xproc
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ok, Norm; I see XML_PMWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
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Date: 25 Feb 2010
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Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/25-agenda
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Meeting: 169
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Chair: Norm
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Scribe: Norm
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ScribeNick: Norm
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Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/02/25-agenda
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XML_PMWG()11:00AM has now started
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+[ArborText]
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+Norm
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+Vojtech
16:03:18 [MoZ]
Zakim, code?
16:03:18 [Zakim]
the conference code is 97762 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MoZ
16:03:49 [Norm]
Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:03:49 [Zakim]
On the phone I see [ArborText], Norm, Vojtech
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Zakim, [Arbor is PGrosso
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+PGrosso; got it
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+MoZ
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+Alex_Milows
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Present: Paul, Norm, Vojtech, Mohamed, Alex
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Topic: Accept this agenda?
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/02/25-agenda
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Accepted.
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Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/02/18-minutes
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Accepted.
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Topic: Next meeting: telcon, 04 Mar 2010?
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No regrets heard.
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Topic: xslt step with text output
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C021
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Norm: I propose we close this without action.
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Accepted.
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Topic: Test suite: variable-005
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C023
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16:08:55 [ht]
zakim, please call ht-781
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ok, ht; the call is being made
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+Ht
16:11:10 [Norm]
Vojtech: We now require a binding in p:xpath-context, so what does the sentence in 4.4 mean.
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...it says you need a default readable port.
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Norm: Yes, I think an editorial change here makes sense, to explicitly note that the default readable port can be undefined
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Proposal: Leave the status quo, with the editorial fix mentioned above.
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Accepted.
16:13:12 [ht]
zakim, mute me
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Ht should now be muted
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Topic: Test suite: err-s0004-005
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C024
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Norm describes the issue.
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Norm: I don't feel strongly about it.
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Vojtech: We do a similar thing with parameter input port.
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Norm: I concede that this a little inconsistent.
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Proposal: Allow required='false' when select is used on p:option
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Vojtech: This change will also simplify tools that build pipelines.
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Accepted.
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Topic: try-namespaces
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C026
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Vojtech: In 2008, we decided to add "try-namespace"
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Norm: Ok, it was editorial sloppiness then
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Proposal: Fix the bug, change to try-namespace.
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Accepted.
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Topic: Namespace hint
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-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/01/lc-comments/#C027
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Norm: What if the document element is in no namespace.
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Vojtech: Just ignore the hint.
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Norm: I agree.
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Proposal: Ignore the hint.
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Accepted.
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Norm: And if there isn't a document there, that's ok true.
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s/true/too/
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General agreement
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Topic: Progress towards PR
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-> http://tests.xproc.org/results/comparison.html
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-> -> http://tests.xproc.org/testsuite/coverage.html
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Norm: We're done!
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Henry: Woo hoo!
16:26:25 [alexmilowski]
Yippie!
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Norm: I assert that we have a complete test suite and two implementations of every relevant feature.
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Paul: Congratulations.
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Norm: I propose that we request transition to PR
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Accepted.
16:27:55 [ht]
http://tests.xproc.org/testsuite/
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Norm: Henry, what are the next steps?
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Henry: You put together a transition request, I review it, and you send it.
16:29:08 [Norm]
Paul: If you look at the draft transition request that I sent out for XLink 1.1, that should help.
16:29:42 [ht]
http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl
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Topic: Any other business
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None heard.
16:31:32 [Zakim]
-Alex_Milows
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-Ht
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-PGrosso
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-Norm
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RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
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-Vojtech
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-MoZ
16:31:40 [Norm]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/25-xproc-minutes.html Norm
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XML_PMWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were [ArborText], Norm, Vojtech, PGrosso, MoZ, Alex_Milows, Ht
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16:36:14 [Norm]
I am opening a bottle of Champagne with dinner tonight!
16:39:23 [ht]
So, remind me (he says unkindly), what year was it we were going to finish in 1 of?
16:47:24 [Norm]
I think it might have been '08
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If it was '07, I don't want to know.
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