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12:51:41 <steph> MEeting: MW4D bi-monthly meeting
12:51:46 <steph> Scribe:steph
12:51:48 <steph> chair:steph
12:52:12 <steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Feb/0002.html
12:52:17 <steph> Present: steph
12:55:59 <steph> zkim, this will be mw4d
12:56:03 <steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
12:56:03 <Zakim> ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
12:56:09 <steph> zakim, code ?
12:56:09 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
12:56:20 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
12:56:27 <Zakim> + +58160aaaa
12:56:33 <steph> zakim, aaaa is me
12:56:33 <Zakim> +steph; got it
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12:58:31 <steph> hello
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12:59:35 <betty> Helo, it's Betty Purwandari from Univ of Southampton
12:59:44 <steph> hi Betty
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13:02:21 <Zakim> + +1.202.342.aabb
13:02:34 <steph> zakim, aabb is Mira
13:02:34 <Zakim> +Mira; got it
13:02:44 <steph> Present+Mira
13:03:03 <Zakim> + +0750070aacc
13:03:12 <steph> zakim, aacc is betty
13:03:12 <Zakim> +betty; got it
13:03:17 <steph> PResent+Betty
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13:05:59 <steph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Feb/0002.html
13:06:44 <steph> Topic: approval of last meeting minutes
13:06:52 <Zakim> + +31.62.247.aadd
13:06:56 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/18-mw4d-minutes.html
13:07:03 <steph> zakim, aadd is Nicolas
13:07:03 <Zakim> +Nicolas; got it
13:07:15 <steph> Present+Nicolas
13:07:44 <steph> approved
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13:08:04 <steph> Topic: update of W3C process
13:08:19 <steph> steph: charter http://www.w3.org/2010/01/MW4Dcharter2.html
13:08:49 <Zakim> + +01312799aaee
13:09:01 <steph> zakim, aaee is renjish
13:09:01 <Zakim> +renjish; got it
13:09:06 <steph> Present+Renjish
13:10:12 <steph> steph explains the W3C process
13:12:18 <steph> nicolas: how long the whole process ?
13:12:28 <steph> steph: probably till mid march
13:12:36 <steph> nicolas: critical mass ?
13:13:43 <steph> steph: issue indeed
13:14:29 <steph> mira: how are we going to organize
13:14:33 <steph> the big work ?
13:14:43 <steph> Topic: Organizing new work 
13:20:49 <steph> mira: difficult to select case studies we select
13:21:24 <steph> mira: on the other hand, focusing on best practices, innovative approached
13:22:05 <steph> nicolas: both relevant. how to select them ? that's the question
13:22:25 <steph> selecting one domain might be the right way.
13:22:35 <steph> do we do our own aggregation ?
13:24:46 <steph> mira: lots of difference
13:25:33 <steph> nicolas: so look at concept first instead of doing a per domain
13:25:37 <steph> ?
13:25:40 <steph> mira: yes
13:27:08 <steph> hard to compare initiatives between them
13:27:23 <steph> e.g esoko close to txteagles
13:27:29 <steph> lots of government initiative
13:31:14 <steph> mira: a way to start this might be to gather input form the groups on examples
13:31:28 <steph> on business models, impact, adoption model
13:32:12 <steph> impact evaluation
13:33:28 <steph> nicolas: bit and pieces in tools and business model around, we can collect
13:33:39 <steph> not true for adoption methodology
13:33:54 <steph> mira: adoption ?
13:34:10 <steph> nicolas: e.g. co-creation
13:34:37 <steph> low hanging fruits: impact, business models tools
13:35:27 <steph> mira: perhaps reorganizing resources available
13:35:28 <betty> q+
13:35:44 <steph> nicolas: let's start with this 3 and see if extra work needed ?
13:35:50 <steph> mira: +1
13:36:10 <steph> ack betty
13:36:19 <betty> Is it possible to put ideas into a table? The rows are domains. The columns are concepts. W3C members can write from their convenient starting points.
13:36:50 <betty> E.g. I find Mira's ideas is more feasible, since I'm doing impact analysis troughout domains. Other members working on specific domain may find another way around.   There'll be compilation of the table towards the end of writing process.
13:37:40 <steph> stephane: +1
13:38:16 <steph> steph: how do we move on ?
13:38:23 <Renjish> q+
13:38:46 <steph> nicolas: start with the three points
13:38:51 <steph> and request contribution on th elist
13:38:55 <steph> ack renjish
13:39:42 <steph> renjish: prioritizing the list first is critical
13:40:16 <steph> good approach ?
13:40:46 <steph> ordering ?
13:42:42 <steph> nicolas: ask the mailing-list with the three and see
13:43:18 <steph> Resolution: start to address business model, impact analysis and tools and see who are the contributors
13:43:56 <steph> Action: steph to organize the wiki 
13:44:29 <steph> Action: stephane identify relevant resources from each theme
13:44:59 <steph> nicolas: interested to contribute to business model
13:45:13 <steph> mira: interested to contribute to impact analysis
13:45:30 <betty> My research is about impact analysis, so I can contribute on that part.
13:45:47 <steph> renjish: interested in the all three, particularly from the agriculture and government aspect
13:47:14 <steph> renjish: idneitfying hte question we want to adress in the document ?
13:47:44 <steph> for bmodel, you cannot analyze them without impact analysis
13:48:13 <steph> so what are the questions ?
13:48:18 <steph> zakim, who is making noise ?
13:48:30 <Zakim> steph, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: steph (27%), betty (77%), Nicolas (4%), renjish (12%)
13:48:44 <steph> zakim, mute betty
13:48:44 <Zakim> betty should now be muted
13:50:52 <steph> http://www.trai.gov.in/WriteReadData/trai/upload/misc/127/Callforpapers.pdf
13:51:49 <steph> Topic: next call
13:52:04 <steph> march 1st 
13:52:53 <Zakim> -betty
13:52:54 <Zakim> -Nicolas
13:52:54 <Zakim> -steph
13:52:56 <Zakim> -renjish
13:52:56 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
13:52:58 <Zakim> Attendees were +58160aaaa, steph, +1.202.342.aabb, Mira, +0750070aacc, betty, +31.62.247.aadd, Nicolas, +01312799aaee, renjish
13:57:59 <steph> rrsagent, make log public
13:58:04 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
13:58:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/15-mw4d-minutes.html steph
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