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19:43:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
19:43:28 <trackbot> Date: 10 February 2010
19:43:37 <Holger> Regrets: Payam, Kevin, Manfred
19:43:45 <Holger> agenda+ Roll call
19:43:53 <Holger> agenda+ Actions from last meeting
19:44:01 <Holger> agenda+ What happened in Dagstuhl?
19:44:10 <Holger> agenda+ Next steps for SSN Ontology
19:44:17 <Holger> agenda+ AOB
19:44:24 <Holger> Chair: Holger
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20:01:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, kerry, rgarcia, Arthur
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20:07:40 <Holger> agenda?
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20:10:32 <Holger> ScibeNick: rgarcia
20:11:07 <rgarcia> Topic: 6-month extension
20:11:32 <rgarcia> Kerry: No reply yet, she will ask again
20:12:34 <rgarcia> Topic: Extending the ontology: observation as record and observation as event
20:13:07 <rgarcia> Alignment of ontology to DOLCE
20:14:16 <rgarcia> ACTION: Krzystof present the alignment to DOLCE next week
20:14:16 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Krzystof
20:14:46 <laurent_oz> +q
20:15:06 <Holger> ack laurent_oz
20:16:09 <kerry> +q
20:16:10 <Arthur> +q
20:16:13 <rgarcia> Laurent: Do we want to include actuators (and the issue of control) in the ontology?
20:16:22 <Holger> ack kerry
20:17:49 <kerry> -q
20:18:02 <Holger> ack Arthur
20:18:50 <rgarcia> Arthur: Not sure if to include actuators: they are an output of agents or robots and sensors are an input
20:18:57 <michael> +q
20:19:17 <Holger> ack michael
20:19:18 <rgarcia> Arthur: the relationship sensor-actuator must be investigated further
20:20:19 <michael> I'll submit an issue for it
20:20:25 <laurent_oz> +q
20:20:33 <Holger> ack laurent_oz
20:21:58 <michael> +q
20:22:13 <Holger> ack michael
20:22:32 <rgarcia> Laurent: What are our expectations for coverage? We started with the CSIRO ontology with covers a lot of concepts and now are in a consensus process starting from a small core 
20:24:24 <kerry> +q
20:24:32 <rgarcia> Michael: <enumerates the differences between the CSIRO and current ontologies>
20:25:37 <michael> I'll ad a list
20:25:48 <Holger> ack kerry
20:26:17 <laurent_oz> +q
20:26:19 <michael> accuracy, location, physical properties (weight, materials, power, etc), results, deployments, 
20:26:20 <rgarcia> Kerry: we should be driven by the use cases
20:26:24 <Holger> ack laurent_oz
20:26:29 <michael> platforms
20:27:02 <michael> manufacturer, logistics
20:27:15 <rgarcia> but, nevertheless, we can go in different directions in the development
20:27:16 <kerry> -q
20:27:29 <michael> results (conditions, latency, expressions ...)
20:27:56 <michael> +q
20:28:04 <Holger> ack michael
20:30:03 <rgarcia> Michael: It would be useful to extend the expressive power of the ontology
20:37:16 <rgarcia> ACTION: Michael will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed)
20:37:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed) [on Michael Compton - due 2010-02-17].
20:38:23 <rgarcia> Michael: we can get ideas from MMI
20:39:50 <Arthur> Michael was a bit hard to understand (bad sound quality)
20:40:20 <rgarcia> ACTION: Kerry will take care of the device part
20:40:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-8 - Will take care of the device part [on Kerry Taylor - due 2010-02-17].
20:40:54 <michael> +q
20:41:13 <Holger> ack michael
20:43:20 <rgarcia> Krzysztof: The alignment to DOLCE should not provoke big changes in the ontology
20:44:51 <rgarcia> trackbot-ng, comment action-7 Michael will cover just accuracy
20:44:51 <trackbot> ACTION-7 Will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed) notes added
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20:46:36 <rgarcia> Kerry: asks for volunteers to draft the ontology report
20:48:15 <rgarcia> Kerry: other reports are needed besides the XG report, even if the final report summarizes all the work
20:49:00 <rgarcia> Kerry: we must not replicate content to avoid inconsistency in reports
20:49:14 <laurent_oz> +Q
20:49:21 <rgarcia> Topic: AOB
20:49:29 <Holger> ack laurent_oz
20:51:08 <rgarcia> Laurent: In the semantic markup deliverable, we are not defining new annotation schemas, we are proposing the best practices to annotate
20:51:38 <rgarcia> Laurent: In some cases we are defining new annotations and in other we aren't
20:52:53 <rgarcia> Topic: Dagstuhl
20:53:14 <rgarcia> Amit: The seminar was very good. Materials are online: http://www.dagstuhl.de/Materials/index.en.phtml?10042
20:53:40 <rgarcia> Amit: Discussions were complementary to the ones in our group
20:54:29 <rgarcia> Amit: Questions were performed about the ontology we are developing and its intended use
20:55:28 <krzysztof_j> what will the book be about (in terms of a special topic)
20:57:43 <rgarcia> Amit: The topic is semantic sensor networks
21:00:02 <rgarcia> Amit: invites people to submit high-quality research
21:00:32 <krzysztof_j> bye bye
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21:00:54 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Holger, kerry, rgarcia, Arthur, laurent_oz, krzysztof_j, michael, +1.937.775.aacc
21:01:02 <Holger> rrsagent, make log public
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21:01:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-minutes.html Holger
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21:01:31 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-actions.rdf :
21:01:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Krzystof present the alignment to DOLCE next week [1]
21:01:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-irc#T20-14-16
21:01:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed) [2]
21:01:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-irc#T20-37-16
21:01:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kerry will take care of the device part [3]
21:01:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-irc#T20-40-20