IRC log of ws-ra on 2010-02-09

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/02/09-ws-ra-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WSRA
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Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 09 February 2010
20:28:01 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot, I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM already started
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+Bob_Freund
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+vikas
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+asoldano
20:31:10 [Bob]
chair: Bob Freund
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scribe: Alessio Soldano
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scribenick: asoldano
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+Gilbert
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+Ashok_Malhotra
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+[Microsoft]
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Feb/0008.html
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+Li
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+Tom_Rutt
20:36:04 [asoldano]
TOPIC: approval of agenda
20:36:38 [asoldano]
RESOLUTION: agenda approved
20:36:53 [asoldano]
TOPIC: approval of minutes of last F2F
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RESOLUTION: minutes approved
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currently outstanding action item to be handled at last call
20:41:13 [Zakim]
+ +0207827aaaa
20:42:23 [asoldano]
next week we confirm the date for the last calls
20:43:42 [asoldano]
katy: don't know if IBM can join F2F in France
20:44:21 [asir]
where is that?
20:44:31 [asir]
okay
20:44:40 [asir]
How about east or west coast?
20:48:09 [asoldano]
TOPIC: 8160
20:48:25 [Dug]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8160
20:48:44 [Ram]
q+
20:48:57 [Bob]
ack ram
20:49:37 [asoldano]
RESOLUTION: 8160 resolved with combination of comments 1 and 2
20:50:11 [asoldano]
TOPIC: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8271
20:50:25 [Dug]
zip: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/att-0194/wseventing-8271.zip
20:54:18 [asoldano]
RESOLUTION: 8271 resolved with the proposal on comment #1
20:54:52 [asoldano]
TOPIC: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8298
20:54:54 [Dug]
zip: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Feb/att-0006/wst_8298.zip
20:58:38 [Ram]
q+
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q+
20:58:44 [Dug]
q+
20:58:57 [Bob]
ack ram
20:59:18 [Bob]
ack dug
20:59:46 [Dug]
q-
21:00:38 [asoldano]
RESOLUTION: 8298 resolved with the proposal on comment #1
21:00:57 [asoldano]
TOPIC: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8304
21:01:05 [Dug]
zip: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Feb/att-0005/wsenum-8304.zip
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21:04:01 [asoldano]
katy: propose to use something different from "ought not to" in introduction
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... perhaps with a re-wording
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.. of the sentence
21:04:52 [Dug]
In general, the ordering or completeness of the enumeration is not significant;
21:05:12 [gpilz]
In general, the ordering or completeness of the enumeration is not guaranteed;
21:05:34 [gpilz]
In general, the ordering or completeness of the enumeration is undefined;
21:05:49 [Dug]
In general, the ordering or completeness of the enumeration is undefined; the returned data items represent a selection by the data source of items it wishes to present to that consumer at that time in that order, with no guarantee that every available item is returned or that the order in which items is returned has any semantic meaning whatsoever (of course, any specific data source can provide strong guarantees, if so desired).
21:06:13 [Dug]
The ordering or completeness of the enumeration is undefined; the returned data items represent a selection by the data source of items it wishes to present to that consumer at that time in that order, with no guarantee that every available item is returned or that the order in which items is returned has any semantic meaning whatsoever (of course, any specific data source can provide strong guarantees, if so desired).
21:06:39 [asoldano]
bob: last line acceptable?
21:06:54 [asoldano]
bob: accepted change
21:09:55 [Ram]
q+
21:09:57 [Katy]
q+
21:10:22 [Bob]
ack ram
21:10:55 [Dug]
q+
21:11:44 [Tom_Rutt]
q+
21:12:11 [asoldano]
ram: propose to leave SHOULD NOT instead of MUST NOT on section 3.2
21:12:24 [Bob]
ack katy
21:12:51 [Bob]
ack dug
21:12:52 [asoldano]
katy: want to think about this some more
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+[Oracle]
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q+
21:14:22 [Bob]
ack tom
21:14:31 [Dug]
q+
21:15:10 [Dug]
+1 to Tom!
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The consumer MUST NOT issue additional Pull request messages after a Pull response containing a wsen:EndOfSequence element has been received.
21:15:22 [Bob]
ack gp
21:15:46 [asoldano]
Tom: change receipt to return
21:16:35 [Bob]
ack du
21:18:09 [asoldano]
accepted modified text
21:19:24 [Tom_Rutt]
s/receipt to return/returned to received/
21:20:48 [Dug]
Upon successful processing of a Pull request message, a data source MUST return a Pull response message of the following form:
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Upon successful processing of a Release request message, a data source MUST return a Release response message, of the following form:
21:22:00 [Dug]
Upon successful processing of a Release request message, a data source MUST return a Release response message of the following form:
21:22:26 [asoldano]
bob: above changes to be added to the proposal (1st and 3rd)
21:23:27 [Dug]
q+
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Upon successful processing of an Enumerate request message, a data source MUST create an enumeration context and return that context in an Enumerate response message of the following form:
21:23:36 [Bob]
ack dug
21:26:10 [asoldano]
bob: change above in section 3 approved too
21:26:41 [asoldano]
RESOLUTION: 8304 resolved with comments from 1 to 5
21:27:23 [asoldano]
TOPIC: MOAP ;)
21:28:36 [Dug]
zip: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/02/moap.zip
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-vikas
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-sreed
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+ +91.98.49.99.aabb
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q+
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ack asir
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+ +1.703.860.aacc
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q+
21:46:04 [Bob]
ack gp
21:46:13 [asir]
Bootstrap case is spelled out at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/edcopies/wsmex.html#Bootstrapping-Metadata-Retrieval
21:46:18 [Zakim]
-[Oracle]
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q+
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+J.Mischkinsky
21:49:00 [asir]
q+
21:49:22 [Bob]
ack dug
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ack asir
21:56:39 [Tom_Rutt]
q
21:56:49 [asoldano]
bob: more time for the proposal to be analysed
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q+
21:57:12 [Bob]
s/analysed/analysed has been requested
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ack asir
21:59:11 [asoldano]
bob: issues without proposal might be proposed for closing with no action next week
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- +1.703.860.aacc
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bye
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- +91.98.49.99.aabb
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-Tom_Rutt
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-[IBM_Watson]
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-Li
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-[Microsoft]
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-Ashok_Malhotra
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-Bob_Freund
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-asoldano
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- +0207827aaaa
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-Gilbert
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-J.Mischkinsky
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WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
22:00:09 [Bob]
rrsagent, generate minutes
22:00:09 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/09-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
22:00:09 [Zakim]
Attendees were [IBM_Watson], sreed, Bob_Freund, vikas, asoldano, Gilbert, Ashok_Malhotra, [Microsoft], Li, Tom_Rutt, +0207827aaaa, [Oracle], +91.98.49.99.aabb, +1.703.860.aacc,
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... J.Mischkinsky
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