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19:59:41 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
19:59:41 <trackbot> Date: 01 February 2010
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20:01:06 <Zakim> +??P7
20:02:31 <Zakim> +Shepazu
20:03:03 <ed> Zakim, ??P7 is me
20:03:03 <Zakim> +ed; got it
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20:04:19 <anthony> Zakim, ??P11 is me
20:04:19 <Zakim> +anthony; got it
20:07:26 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Meetings#Upcoming_F2Fs
20:21:25 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Jan/0107.html
20:26:56 <anthony> Scribe: anthony
20:27:00 <anthony> Chair: Erik
20:27:05 <anthony> Topic: Zoom Event
20:27:47 <anthony> DS: Spending time on DOM 3 Events
20:27:59 <anthony> ... I dropped normalised X and normalised Y
20:28:25 <anthony> ... because it relied to heavily on SVG
20:29:07 <anthony> ... might put that in Transforms
20:29:32 <anthony> ... The other thing I was looking at was resizeEvents and it turns out those are quite tricky
20:29:57 <anthony> ... right now browsers are cable of zooming in on different content - text, svg etc
20:30:13 <anthony> ... and you can't detect the event for this
20:30:23 <anthony> ... people use resize for this
20:30:40 <anthony> ... I was wondering if I should have a general Zoom event for DOM Events
20:30:59 <anthony> ED: Not sure I've seen many people use it in SVG
20:31:06 <anthony> AG: Use case?
20:31:14 <anthony> DS: Level of detail
20:31:35 <anthony> ... when someone zooms in to an area, could redraw content, fetch new content
20:32:07 <anthony> ... I would have to add a new attribute for the zoom event
20:32:15 <anthony> ... because I would need the current scale factor
20:32:24 <anthony> ... nothing on the current interface that is suitable
20:32:52 <anthony> ... So are the concerns about defining about it DOM Events instead of SVG?
20:33:42 <anthony> ... and, can use cases for people zooming in on SVG content and HTML content be addressed b the same interface? or does it have to be two separate interfaces?
20:34:26 <anthony> ... there is some relevance with mobiles
20:34:49 <anthony> DS: We are doing a multi-touch and gestures spec
20:35:08 <anthony> ED: I'm guessing the requirements for zoom event would be similar for different content
20:35:20 <anthony> DS: Right now zoom only works for the document level
20:35:29 <anthony> ... I think it should work for the element level as well
20:35:54 <anthony> ... for example if you have an SVG line in the HTML page, you should be able to zoom in on that
20:36:24 <anthony> ED: In Opera we have two different zoom types. One for specific parts of the page and one for the whole document
20:37:36 <anthony> AG: Would it be similar to zoom event in SVG?
20:38:30 <anthony> DS: One thing you get out from the SVG zoom event is a current scale coefficient
20:38:45 <anthony> ... a multiplier
20:39:03 <anthony> ... I would do the same thing as SVG but not call it current scale
20:40:11 <anthony> ED: Have you seen how widely implemented the zoom events are?
20:40:32 <anthony> ... I know we have an errata to fix some things in the zoom event and remove some things
20:40:45 <anthony> ... for SVG 1.1 Full 2nd edition
20:41:13 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/errata/errata.xml#svgzoomevent-interface
20:41:27 <shepazu> action-1?
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20:41:37 <shepazu> action-400?
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20:41:44 <shepazu> issue-200?
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20:42:26 <anthony> ED: Don't think they've been completed though
20:42:32 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/errata/errata.xml#svgzoomevent-previous-new
20:48:24 <Zakim> -ed
20:48:30 <Zakim> -anthony
20:48:33 <Zakim> -Shepazu
20:48:35 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG()3:00PM has ended
20:48:35 <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, ed, anthony
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21:09:35 <anthony> RRSAgent, make minutes
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