15:50:39 RRSAgent has joined #mwts 15:50:39 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc 15:50:41 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:50:41 Zakim has joined #mwts 15:50:43 Zakim, this will be MWI_TS 15:50:43 ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes 15:50:44 Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference 15:50:44 Date: 26 January 2010 15:52:27 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0042.html 15:52:30 Chair: Wilhelm 16:01:15 MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started 16:01:23 +??P20 16:01:34 P20 is me 16:01:42 Zakim: P20 is hendry 16:01:49 zakim, ??P20 is Kai 16:01:51 +Dom 16:01:57 +Carmelo 16:01:59 +Kai; got it 16:02:18 carmelo has joined #mwts 16:02:58 Regrets+ Wilhelm 16:03:12 Topic: WCTMB2 16:03:22 +??P38 16:03:36 zakim, ??P38 is dmitri 16:03:36 +dmitri; got it 16:04:08 ACTION-103? 16:04:08 ACTION-103 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db -- due 2010-01-26 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:04:08 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103 16:04:14 close ACTION-103 16:04:14 ACTION-103 Look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db closed 16:04:30 dmitris has joined #mwts 16:04:36 -> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/wctmb2/ new URI for WCTMB2 16:04:37 dom: very cool :) 16:04:58 -> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/results-wctmb2 Scores for WCTMB2 16:05:38 Kai: would be good to show individual results as permalinks 16:06:01 ACTION: Dom to set up permalinks for individuals results for WCTMB2 (not critical for release) 16:06:02 Created ACTION-117 - Set up permalinks for individuals results for WCTMB2 (not critical for release) [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-02-02]. 16:06:11 ACTION-108? 16:06:11 ACTION-108 -- Kai Hendry to fix in WCTMB2 -- due 2010-01-26 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:06:11 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/108 16:06:20 close ACTION-108 16:06:20 ACTION-108 Fix in WCTMB2 closed 16:06:32 Kai: it now validates with HTML5 validator 16:06:44 ... I haven't updated the test case description 16:07:37 ACTION: Kai to update description 16:07:37 Created ACTION-118 - Update description [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-02-02]. 16:07:45 ACTION-109? 16:07:45 ACTION-109 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to test wctmb2 on his devices -- due 2010-01-26 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:07:45 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/109 16:07:53 close ACTION-109 16:07:53 ACTION-109 Test wctmb2 on his devices closed 16:08:37 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0045.html results of running the tests on various devices/browsers 16:08:49 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0046.html Kai found a bug 16:08:59 ACTION: Kai to fix try/catch bug in WCTMB2 16:08:59 Created ACTION-119 - Fix try/catch bug in WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-02-02]. 16:11:05 ACTION: Dom to look at making the test work in ie6 (Kai to do it if not done in time by Dom) 16:11:05 Created ACTION-120 - Look at making the test work in ie6 (Kai to do it if not done in time by Dom) [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-02-02]. 16:11:57 close ACTION-110 16:11:57 ACTION-110 Test wctmb2 on his devices closed 16:12:13 ACTION-112? 16:12:13 ACTION-112 -- Dmitri Sileav to test wctmb2 on his devices -- due 2010-01-26 -- OPEN 16:12:13 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/112 16:12:36 Dmitri: ran on HTC with Opera 9.5, 9.8 16:12:46 ... ~17% passed tests 16:13:36 ... think the contenteditable test might have stopped the other tests to work correctly 16:13:50 ... only and xmlhttprequest passed 16:14:00 ... also tested on Firefox on Windows, and Safari 16:14:21 ... Safari gets 50%, FF 75% 16:14:36 close ACTION-112 16:14:36 ACTION-112 Test wctmb2 on his devices closed 16:14:51 Dmitri: the averages by test show that contenteditable fails for 90% 16:15:06 ... although it was already in WCTMB1 and it seemed to pass on the same device 16:15:20 Dom: so maybe a bug in contenteditable? 16:16:05 ACTION: Dom to ask wilhelm to look at contenteditable test 16:16:05 Created ACTION-121 - Ask wilhelm to look at contenteditable test [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-02-02]. 16:16:41 Dmitri: also tried to run the test on our internal implementation 16:16:58 ... passed 80% (18% ?) 16:17:09 ACTION-113? 16:17:09 ACTION-113 -- Kai Hendry to draft announcement of WCTMB2 -- due 2010-01-26 -- OPEN 16:17:09 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/113 16:17:34 Dom: send back some comments on your private draft 16:17:40 ... could you re-send with corrections to the list? 16:17:47 ACTION-113 due next week 16:17:47 ACTION-113 Draft announcement of WCTMB2 due date now next week 16:19:11 Dom: probably need one more cycle before release 16:19:18 ... hope that wilhelm can organize a call next week 16:19:38 Topic: Test assertions methodology 16:19:50 close ACTION-114 16:19:50 ACTION-114 Review new version of methodology closed 16:20:00 -> http://www.w3.org/mid/1263983491.15707.9519.camel%2540localhost Dom's review 16:20:05 close ACTION-116 16:20:05 ACTION-116 Review the new version of methodology closed 16:20:15 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0040.html Dmitri's review 16:20:36 close ACTION-115 16:20:36 ACTION-115 Review new version of methodology closed 16:20:43 ACTION-115: dropped for timing reasons 16:20:43 ACTION-115 Review new version of methodology notes added 16:21:09 Topic: Next call 16:21:18 Dom: Regrets for me 16:21:39 yes 16:22:12 -Carmelo 16:22:14 -dmitri 16:22:14 -Kai 16:22:16 -Dom 16:22:16 MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended 16:22:17 Attendees were Dom, Carmelo, Kai, dmitri 16:22:29 ... I suggest you guys should have a call to have a final look at the test and decide to release it 16:22:36 Chair: Dom 16:22:45 s/ ->/ ->/g 16:22:49 RRSAgent, draft minutes 16:22:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-minutes.html dom 16:25:07 RRSAgent, bye 16:25:07 I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-actions.rdf : 16:25:07 ACTION: Dom to set up permalinks for individuals results for WCTMB2 (not critical for release) [1] 16:25:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc#T16-06-01 16:25:07 ACTION: Kai to update description [2] 16:25:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc#T16-07-37 16:25:07 ACTION: Kai to fix try/catch bug in WCTMB2 [3] 16:25:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc#T16-08-59 16:25:07 ACTION: Dom to look at making the test work in ie6 (Kai to do it if not done in time by Dom) [4] 16:25:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc#T16-11-05 16:25:07 ACTION: Dom to ask wilhelm to look at contenteditable test [5] 16:25:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-mwts-irc#T16-16-05