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15:47:12 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
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15:47:13 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
15:47:13 <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2010
15:47:36 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0027.html
15:47:40 <dom> Chair: Wilhelm
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15:57:22 <hendry> hi there
15:57:42 <hendry> wilhelm: you chairing the call?
15:58:11 <wilhelm> Yes, but dom seems to be here too today. (c:
15:59:03 <hendry> "facilitate some way of allowing users to submit results for their browser", automagic ajax post?
15:59:53 <wilhelm> Semi-automatic, preferably. (c:
16:00:17 <hendry> is there some privacy worry?
16:00:46 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
16:00:55 <hendry> oh i think i failed to mention i tried changing video to HTMLVideoElement, though it didn't work for me either
16:01:01 <Zakim> + +47.23.69.aaaa
16:01:02 <hendry> ok, need to dial in
16:01:56 <dom> zakim, code?
16:02:07 <dom> zakim, aaaa is wilhelm
16:02:09 <Zakim> +??P25
16:02:25 <Zakim> the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
16:02:34 <Zakim> +wilhelm; got it
16:02:54 <hendry> bit confused about HTML5 video interface
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16:03:42 <Zakim> +??P27
16:04:02 <dom> zakim, ??P25 is probably Kai
16:04:04 <dom> Topic: WCTMB2
16:04:19 <Zakim> + +49.238.aabb
16:04:25 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0031.html Wilhelm's status report on WCTMB2
16:04:39 <Zakim> +Kai?; got it
16:04:43 <dom> Wilhelm: we should start testing it on actual phones before making the relrease
16:04:50 <dom> ... we should also make it possible to submit results
16:04:54 <dom> zakim, aabb is dom
16:05:09 <Zakim> +dom; got it
16:05:30 <dom> ACTION-103?
16:05:31 <trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db -- due 2010-01-26 -- OPEN
16:05:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103
16:05:47 <dom> Dom: starting doing that; would need to know if we do that automatically or semi-automatically
16:05:59 <hendry> i think a server can easily filter this stuff :)
16:06:06 <dom> Wilhelm: would be worried that doing that automatically would drown us under too many results
16:06:20 <dom> ... I think submitting manually would be sufficient
16:07:19 <dom> Dom: I'm ok with both approaches; maybe manual will be sufficient, based on our experience with WCTBM1
16:07:35 <dom> Kai: I prefer automatically, but I guess I can see that manual will work too
16:07:53 <dom> Dom: OK, will implement the manual version then
16:08:02 <dom> close ACTION-104
16:08:02 <trackbot> ACTION-104 Review new tests from wilhelm closed
16:08:15 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0025.html Kai's comments on Wilhelm new tests
16:08:49 <dom> Kai: I'm a bit worried about the size of the font file, it feels a bit big
16:09:15 <dom> ... should we be worried about the different font formats? e.g. WOFF
16:09:29 <dom> Wilhelm: I think sticking with TTF for now is probably best
16:09:41 <dom> Kai: no IP issue in this case?
16:09:54 <dom> Wilhelm: WOFF is mostly TTF + metadata
16:10:02 <dom> Kai: ok, so TTF might be adequate then
16:10:47 <dom> ... also, the validator reports a problem with the date inputfield
16:11:09 <dom> ... new canvas test seems simpler, sounds good
16:11:24 <dom> Wilhelm: regarding font size, I can try stripping it out
16:11:37 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to look at trimming font file
16:11:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - Look at trimming font file [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].
16:11:55 <dom> ACTION: Kai to fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2
16:11:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].
16:12:10 <dom> ACTION-96?
16:12:10 <trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to review and integrate audio and video tests in WCTMB2 -- due 2010-01-12 -- OPEN
16:12:10 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/96
16:12:17 <dom> Wilhelm: video test still failing in Opera/FF
16:12:21 <dom> ... will look in fixing it
16:12:37 <dom> Kai: do you know about the named interface?
16:13:03 <hendry> HTMLVideoElement
16:13:09 <dom> Dom: have you tried replacing Video() with HTMLVideoElement()?
16:13:18 <dom> Kai: tried that, but didn't make a difference
16:13:33 <dom> Wilhelm: I'll look at that as part of my action
16:14:04 <dom> ACTION-105?
16:14:04 <trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Kai Hendry to update localStorage to move counter out of test results -- due 2010-01-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:14:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/105
16:14:08 <dom> close ACTION-105
16:14:08 <trackbot> ACTION-105 Update localStorage to move counter out of test results closed
16:14:40 <dom> Kai: we discussed putting it somewhere else, right?
16:14:52 <dom> dom: we discussed putting it after the list of results, but I don't think that matters much
16:15:59 <dom> close ACTION-106
16:16:00 <trackbot> ACTION-106 Add the user agent string in the detailed results closed
16:16:18 <dom> Wilhelm: I've moved the user agent string in the details part
16:16:31 <dom> Kai: better idea, indeed!
16:17:07 <dom> Dom: what's your feeling? what are our chances to call it done next week?
16:17:11 <dom> Wilhelm: good I think
16:17:27 <dom> ... we still need testing
16:17:40 <dom> ACTION: Dom to test wctmb2 on his devices
16:17:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-26].
16:17:46 <dom> ACTION: Kai to test wctmb2 on his devices
16:17:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].
16:17:51 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to test wctmb2 on his devices
16:17:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].
16:17:57 <dom> ACTION: Dmitri to test wctmb2 on his devices
16:17:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Dmitri Sileav - due 2010-01-26].
16:19:27 <dom> Kai: would be good to return a permalink to submission results
16:19:39 <dom> ACTION-103: give back permalink to results submission
16:19:39 <trackbot> ACTION-103 Look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db notes added
16:19:48 <dom> Wilhelm: we should prepare an announcement
16:20:00 <dom> ACTION: Kai to draft announcement of WCTMB2
16:20:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Draft announcement of WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].
16:20:26 <dom> Topic: Test assertions methodology
16:20:40 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0030.html Update to methodology document
16:21:04 <dom> ACTION: Dom to review new version of methodology
16:21:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-114 - Review new version of methodology [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-26].
16:21:16 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to review new version of methodology
16:21:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-115 - Review new version of methodology [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].
16:21:40 <dom> Dom: let's confirm next week that we want to publish
16:22:07 <dom> Dmitri: the draft signals problems at the top right corner
16:22:30 <dom> ACTION: Dmitri to review the new version of methodology
16:22:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-116 - Review the new version of methodology [on Dmitri Sileav - due 2010-01-26].
16:22:57 <dom> Topic: Next call
16:23:01 <dom> January 26
16:23:48 <dom> Wilhelm: will be traveling; will send everything needed in advance
16:23:56 <Zakim> -Kai?
16:23:57 <Zakim> -wilhelm
16:23:59 <Zakim> -??P27
16:24:00 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
16:24:02 <Zakim> Attendees were +47.23.69.aaaa, wilhelm, +49.238.aabb, Kai?, dom
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16:24:24 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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16:34:11 <hendry> forgot to talk about the font loading stuff
16:36:57 <hendry> also i thought of a more friendly name of WCTMB, mow-wow =)
16:46:12 <hendry> noticed too the appcache test needs some work
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