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11:54:50 <wbailer> zakim, this will be mawg
11:54:50 <Zakim> ok, wbailer, I see IA_MAWG()7:00AM already started
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11:55:05 <wbailer> meeting: MAWG
11:58:23 <Zakim> + +0329331aabb
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11:59:07 <tbuerger> Zakim, who's here?
11:59:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see +0012aaaa, +0329331aabb
11:59:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see chris, florian, RRSAgent, Zakim, wbailer, tbuerger, trackbot
11:59:36 <chris> Zakim, +0329331aabb is me
11:59:36 <Zakim> +chris; got it
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12:00:33 <joakim> zakim, this is mawg
12:00:33 <Zakim> joakim, this was already IA_MAWG()7:00AM
12:00:35 <Zakim> ok, joakim; that matches IA_MAWG()7:00AM
12:00:47 <joakim> chair: Joakim
12:00:58 <Zakim> + +43.316.876.aacc
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12:01:04 <wbailer> zakim, aacc is wbailer
12:01:04 <Zakim> +wbailer; got it
12:01:48 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.19.aadd
12:02:32 <joakim> zakim, +46.1.07.19 is me
12:02:32 <Zakim> +joakim; got it
12:02:37 <Zakim> + +049851509aaee
12:02:51 <florian> Zakim, aaee is me
12:02:51 <Zakim> +florian; got it
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12:04:37 <Zakim> + +47.24.4.aaff
12:05:00 <pchampin> zakim, aaff is me
12:05:00 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
12:05:25 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2009/12/15-mediaann-minutes.html 
12:05:49 <joakim> ok
12:06:35 <chris> florian proposed to scribe in the last telco
12:06:58 <chris> it's in the minutes
12:07:08 <veroniqueM> I could scribe next week
12:07:21 <florian> scribe: florian
12:07:55 <florian> scribe for telco @ 26.01.2010: veroniqueM 
12:08:30 <florian> topic: F2F meeting in korea 
12:09:01 <florian> joakim: how many participants signed?
12:09:07 <chris> +q
12:09:16 <florian> ... any question regarding this meeting?
12:09:35 <florian> Chrir: i?m wondering about the workshop...what will it be about, who will host it?
12:09:47 <florian> s/Chrir/Chris
12:10:12 <florian> Joakim: let?s make an action item on daniel
12:11:25 <veroniqueM> I will not be able to attend the F2F
12:11:33 <Zakim> + +31.20.598.aagg
12:11:44 <florian> action - daniel to give informations about the workshop in korea
12:11:44 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - -
12:11:57 <florian> action daniel to give informations about the workshop in korea
12:11:57 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
12:12:01 <veroniqueM> Zakim, +31.20.598.aagg is me
12:12:01 <Zakim> +veroniqueM; got it
12:12:10 <florian> action: daniel to give informations about the workshop in korea
12:12:10 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
12:12:39 <florian> action: sohong to give informations about the workshop in korea
12:12:39 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - sohong
12:12:49 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
12:13:41 <florian> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/204
12:14:12 <florian> topic: nre invited experts
12:14:23 <florian> Joakim: we have several new invited experts in the group
12:14:24 <wbailer> s/nre/new/
12:14:37 <tbuerger> @Joakim: could you post the names?
12:14:40 <florian> ... John wanted to join today, but at the moment not here
12:15:34 <joakim> John Strassner
12:15:43 <joakim> Ashish Chawla
12:16:36 <florian> Tobias: i also change the position
12:16:46 <florian> ... can i join as an invited expert?
12:17:19 <florian> Joakim: i will check that
12:17:51 <florian> Tobias: new employer is working on social media and multimedia annotations
12:18:11 <florian> topic: open action items
12:18:20 <florian> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/47
12:18:28 <florian> action 47 ongoing
12:18:28 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 47
12:18:54 <florian> action-124: ongoing
12:18:54 <trackbot> ACTION-124 Check - everybody responsible for a format: add a column describing syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his table notes added
12:19:03 <florian> action-135: ongoing
12:19:03 <trackbot> ACTION-135 update description of location to represent shot location notes added
12:19:19 <florian> action-149: ongoing
12:19:19 <trackbot> ACTION-149 Review of whole of ontology doc with veronique notes added
12:21:08 <florian> Joakim: what?s the status of the ontology document?
12:21:28 <florian> Veronique: i send a newer version, but it is not online at the page
12:21:38 <florian> ...could someone of the other editors integrate it?
12:22:31 <florian> ...i did not get any feedback from the other editors
12:23:25 <florian> action: Veronique to resend the email with the updated ontology document to the editorial team
12:23:25 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Veronique
12:23:50 <veroniqueM> s/someone of the other editors/Wonsuk/
12:23:53 <florian> action-163: ongoing
12:23:53 <trackbot> ACTION-163 Update some of the descriptions to make them more precise and highlight the difference with DC notes added
12:23:59 <florian> action-171: ongoing
12:23:59 <trackbot> ACTION-171 improve description of properties (together with veronique) notes added
12:24:13 <florian> action-175: ongoing
12:24:13 <trackbot> ACTION-175 Define data type mappings as soon as the data types for the formats are defined notes added
12:24:49 <florian> action-189: Tobias will work on this topic, but it is postponed right now
12:24:49 <trackbot> ACTION-189 Postponed: Work on the the subproperties notes added
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12:25:52 <florian> Zakim, unmute me
12:25:52 <Zakim> florian should no longer be muted
12:26:10 <florian> Zakim, mute me
12:26:10 <Zakim> florian should now be muted
12:26:18 <florian> action-196: ongoing
12:26:18 <trackbot> ACTION-196 update scribe list notes added
12:26:48 <florian> Joakim: waht is the status of the u&rec doc? There was trouble merging it?
12:27:11 <florian> Veronique: if everbody agrees, we could go for the publication with wonsuks version
12:27:12 <wonsuk> No... it has done
12:27:27 <joakim> Wonsuk do you have problem with the phone bridge?
12:27:39 <florian> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Jan/0021.html
12:28:33 <florian> close action-201
12:28:33 <trackbot> ACTION-201 Update acknowledgements section of uc& req document and to notify chairs when it's ready for publication closed
12:28:51 <florian> close action-198
12:28:51 <trackbot> ACTION-198 Prepare 3rd working draft of UC & Rec document closed
12:29:21 <florian> close action-202
12:29:21 <trackbot> ACTION-202 Include security part in api document closed
12:29:32 <Zakim> + +82.10.58.00.aahh
12:30:35 <florian> Zakim, aahh is wonsuk
12:30:35 <Zakim> +wonsuk; got it
12:30:51 <florian> Zakim, who?s here?
12:30:51 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, florian.
12:31:07 <florian> Zakim, who is here?
12:31:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see +0012aaaa, chris, wbailer, joakim, florian (muted), pchampin (muted), veroniqueM, wonsuk
12:31:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see wonsuk, pchampin, veroniqueM, joakim, chris, florian, RRSAgent, Zakim, wbailer, tbuerger, trackbot
12:32:20 <florian> Wonsuk: it would be great, if the acknowledgment part could be done using the database entry of the w3c
12:32:32 <joakim> we hear you good
12:32:47 <florian> ...right now, i have to do it manually using the page of our working group
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12:34:29 <florian> close action-203
12:34:30 <trackbot> ACTION-203 Come up with a proposal of methods that allow to identify the media resource and metadata documents closed
12:34:56 <florian> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/204 <... one for you daniel :)
12:35:32 <daniel> action-204 is still open
12:36:01 <florian> Wonsuk: we want to make some program based on the participants of the F2F
12:36:24 <florian> ... so far i only have the confirmation of three members
12:37:07 <florian> ... the three are: Joakim, Chris and Thierry
12:38:40 <chris> can the people that are present here confirm now if they will be attending?
12:38:59 <florian> ... the february meeting would be important for the status of the documents
12:39:10 <florian> Werner: perhaps i can attend
12:39:41 <pchampin> I will not be able to attend...
12:39:45 <pchampin> sorry
12:40:04 <florian> Joakim: i hope we have enough people in Korea to make a progress 
12:40:18 <joakim> Will John Strassner join the F2F?
12:41:04 <chris> Erik Mannens might join too
12:41:21 <florian> sorry joakim...
12:41:24 <florian> i cannot come
12:41:24 <daniel> I am a bit worrying about lack of member participation at upcoming F2F, otherwise, perhaps we have to arrange another F2F quickly...
12:41:33 <chris> depends on the plans fo the media Fragments group
12:41:41 <florian> europe would be better i guys :(
12:41:47 <florian> Zakim, unmute me
12:41:47 <Zakim> florian should no longer be muted
12:42:01 <daniel> I will contact Prof John for his attendance since I will meet him this week.
12:42:37 <joakim> So far we have: chirs, joakim, thierry, werner, and erik
12:42:50 <chris> and daniel en wonsuk
12:42:51 <joakim> + wonsuk, daniel = 6
12:43:00 <daniel> surely we will have the next F2F in Korea...I am saying another F2F after Korea meeting, perhaps within several months in Europe
12:43:01 <chris> and maybe other Korean participants?
12:43:12 <chris> refering to the guy that was at TPAC
12:43:43 <daniel> MFWG will probably have their own F2F in EU...
12:44:31 <wbailer> mpeg in geneva: 	10/07/26-30
12:44:37 <joakim> I agree we should have another F2F in Europe
12:44:56 <wbailer> mpeg in dresden: 10/04/19-23
12:45:53 <daniel> OK, our F2F schedule is freezed...Feb 23-25
12:47:15 <florian> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/206
12:48:05 <florian> action-206: florian would prefer the f2f near the dresden meeting
12:48:05 <trackbot> ACTION-206 new F2F near the MPEG Meeting (mpeg in geneva: 10/07/26-30 & mpeg in dresden: 10/04/19-23) notes added
12:48:20 <florian> topic: use case and requirements document
12:48:36 <florian> Joakim: it is ready for announcement
12:48:49 <florian> ... annything more to say about it?
12:49:50 <florian> topic: Test suites status update and ToDo,
12:49:58 <florian> Joakim: what?s the status about it?
12:50:13 <pchampin> must be in the minutes, at least... :)
12:50:17 <florian> Werner: there was no progress
12:51:12 <florian> action: florian to fish for good ideas in the minutes and collect them in the wiki about the test suite
12:51:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-207 - Fish for good ideas in the minutes and collect them in the wiki about the test suite [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2010-01-26].
12:54:19 <wbailer> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/TestSuite
12:55:38 <wbailer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Nov/0004.html
12:57:08 <wbailer> rrsagent, make logs public
12:57:15 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:57:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
12:57:30 <Zakim> -florian
12:57:32 <Zakim> -joakim
12:57:33 <Zakim> -veroniqueM
12:57:33 <Zakim> -chris
12:57:36 <Zakim> - +0012aaaa
12:57:39 <florian> rrsagent, make logs public
12:57:41 <Zakim> -wbailer
12:57:45 <Zakim> -pchampin
12:57:46 <florian> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:57:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mediaann-minutes.html florian
12:57:46 <Zakim> -wonsuk
12:57:46 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()7:00AM has ended
12:57:47 <Zakim> Attendees were +0012aaaa, chris, +43.316.876.aacc, wbailer, +46.1.07.19.aadd, joakim, +049851509aaee, florian, +47.24.4.aaff, pchampin, veroniqueM, +82.10.58.00.aahh, wonsuk
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12:59:03 <wbailer> present: joakim, chris, veronique, wonsuk, daniel (irc), pierre-antoine, florian, werner
12:59:45 <wbailer> regrets: thierry
13:00:01 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
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