IRC log of mw4d on 2010-01-18

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12:33:15 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/18-mw4d-irc
12:33:22 [steph]
zakim, this will be mw4d
12:33:22 [Zakim]
ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 27 minutes
12:33:34 [steph]
MEETING: MW4D bi-monthly meeting
12:34:05 [steph]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Jan/0015.html
12:34:10 [steph]
Present:stephane
12:57:27 [steph]
zakim, code ?
12:57:27 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
12:58:43 [Zakim]
MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
12:58:51 [Zakim]
+ +58160aaaa
12:59:00 [steph]
zakim, aaaa is me
12:59:00 [Zakim]
+steph; got it
12:59:52 [nicolas]
nicolas has joined #mw4d
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+ +31.62.247.aabb
13:01:06 [steph]
zakim, aabb is Nicolas
13:01:06 [Zakim]
+Nicolas; got it
13:01:26 [raphael]
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13:02:13 [steph]
Present+Nicolas
13:05:27 [Zakim]
+ +41.22.730.aacc
13:05:45 [steph]
zakim, aacc is Raphael
13:05:45 [Zakim]
+Raphael; got it
13:05:58 [steph]
Present+Raphael
13:06:05 [steph]
http://haiti.ushahidi.com/
13:07:11 [betty_purwandari]
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13:08:14 [steph]
http://www.tsfi.org/en/action/emergencies/112-seisme-en-haiti-tsf-deploie-ses-equipes
13:08:48 [Zakim]
+ +0238059aadd
13:08:58 [steph]
zakim, aadd is Betty
13:08:58 [Zakim]
+Betty; got it
13:09:28 [steph]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Jan/0015.html
13:09:42 [steph]
Topic: approval of last meeting minutes
13:09:48 [steph]
http://www.w3.org/2009/12/21-mw4d-minutes.html
13:10:04 [steph]
approved
13:10:25 [steph]
Topic: discussion of the new charter of the group
13:10:41 [steph]
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/MW4Dcharter2.html
13:12:23 [ArunKumar]
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13:13:14 [Zakim]
+ +91.99.99.76.aaee
13:13:30 [steph]
zakim, aaee is arun
13:13:30 [Zakim]
+arun; got it
13:13:35 [steph]
PResent+Arun
13:13:39 [steph]
PResent+Betty
13:13:48 [steph]
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/MW4Dcharter2.html
13:15:50 [betty_purwandari]
q+
13:16:37 [steph]
raphael: clarify "to understand the barriers that prevent people in developing countries to use mobile phones to interact with Web content, and to develop and deploy content and services"
13:16:40 [steph]
steph: ok
13:17:05 [betty_purwandari]
Harnessing social networking for social development?
13:18:09 [ArunKumar]
q+
13:18:22 [steph]
ack betty_purwandari
13:18:35 [steph]
ack arunkumar
13:19:56 [steph]
arun: be more domain specific, and propose concrete solution
13:27:48 [steph]
arun: timeline
13:27:57 [steph]
nicolas: note 1 and 4 close
13:28:01 [ArunKumar]
Yes, I agree with you Stephane and understand the resource constraints. So, all I am suggesting is that we take those into accounts and define more specific goals (small they may be) so that we can reach good concrete solutions when we close the group.
13:29:22 [ArunKumar]
q+
13:29:28 [steph]
ack arunkumar
13:31:45 [raphael]
q+
13:31:51 [steph]
q+
13:31:54 [ArunKumar]
q-
13:31:59 [steph]
ack raphael
13:32:16 [steph]
raphael: timeline needs to be more detailed
13:36:21 [steph]
ack me
13:36:52 [nicolas]
=q
13:36:55 [nicolas]
+q
13:37:29 [ArunKumar]
Yes, you have summarized my proposal well Stephane.
13:38:45 [ArunKumar]
I agree with Nicholas
13:38:53 [ArunKumar]
Business models would vary by domain
13:38:56 [raphael]
I agree that bizmodels are area dependent / subject specific
13:39:24 [steph]
nicolas: agree we should start domain specific
13:39:26 [ArunKumar]
The players in the ecosystem and stakeholders plus the constraints are different
13:39:27 [raphael]
q+
13:39:33 [steph]
ack nicolas
13:39:42 [steph]
ack raphael
13:41:06 [nicolas]
+q
13:41:08 [ArunKumar]
q+
13:41:15 [steph]
proposal: changing the split between topics to between domain
13:41:19 [steph]
ack nicolas
13:41:48 [steph]
nicolas: i also wanted to mention adoption
13:42:15 [steph]
how do you do that ?
13:42:30 [steph]
ack arunkumar
13:43:07 [nicolas]
completely in line with Arun
13:43:11 [steph]
arun: from my experience, it is hard to come with business model that are generic
13:43:26 [steph]
dependent on the stakeholder
13:43:52 [steph]
q+
13:44:04 [steph]
arun: propose we go one domain by domain
13:45:02 [ArunKumar]
q+
13:46:34 [steph]
ack arunkumar
13:46:57 [steph]
arun: one group can collect bmodel from different domains
13:47:13 [steph]
bottom-up approach
13:47:18 [steph]
better
13:48:32 [steph]
ack steph
13:49:46 [steph]
got cut
13:49:58 [steph]
calling back
13:50:05 [steph]
zakim, code ?
13:50:05 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
13:50:11 [steph]
zakim, who is here ?
13:50:11 [Zakim]
On the phone I see steph, Nicolas, Raphael, Betty, arun
13:50:12 [Zakim]
On IRC I see ArunKumar, betty_purwandari, raphael, nicolas, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
13:50:27 [raphael]
come back w/us!
13:50:33 [Zakim]
-Betty
13:50:34 [steph]
zakim, drop me
13:50:34 [Zakim]
steph is being disconnected
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-steph
13:50:39 [steph]
yes trying
13:51:16 [raphael]
how many sub-groups are we talking about, then?
13:51:18 [Zakim]
+Betty
13:51:33 [nicolas]
4
13:51:45 [nicolas]
if 4 domains right?
13:51:51 [Zakim]
+ +67384aaff
13:52:58 [raphael]
5? health, agric, gov, educ, bizmodels?
13:55:07 [raphael]
+1
13:56:08 [betty_purwandari]
q+
13:56:13 [ArunKumar]
q+
13:57:07 [betty_purwandari]
m-commerce or/banking in the charter/
13:57:31 [ArunKumar]
I agree
13:58:44 [steph]
stephane: we should decide the priority not in the charter
13:58:55 [raphael]
steph: we leave other topics to enter the group's focus according to available resources (time/people/subject leader)
13:59:00 [steph]
but based on the resources
14:01:21 [raphael]
q+
14:01:57 [betty_purwandari]
Sorry, I have to leave for another meeting. I'll check the minutes later. Bye.
14:02:01 [Zakim]
-Betty
14:03:39 [steph]
action: nicolas to send a description for the 5th items about adoption strategy
14:04:48 [steph]
topic:next call
14:05:10 [steph]
february 8th
14:05:13 [ArunKumar]
yes
14:05:14 [ArunKumar]
fine with me
14:05:24 [raphael]
next call: 8 feb
14:05:27 [raphael]
thanks
14:05:29 [ArunKumar]
Thanks, bye
14:05:30 [Zakim]
- +67384aaff
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-Raphael
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-arun
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-Nicolas
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MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +58160aaaa, steph, +31.62.247.aabb, Nicolas, +41.22.730.aacc, Raphael, +0238059aadd, Betty, +91.99.99.76.aaee, arun, +67384aaff
14:09:01 [steph]
zakim, make log public
14:09:01 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'make log public', steph
14:09:09 [steph]
rrsagent, make log public
14:09:15 [steph]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:09:15 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/18-mw4d-minutes.html steph
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