IRC log of wai-wcag on 2010-01-14

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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG

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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started

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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 14 January 2010

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test

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+??P6

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+ +1.617.324.aabb

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zakim, +1.617 is Michael_Cooper

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+Michael_Cooper; got it

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+[Oracle]

21:02:34 [MichaelC]

zakim, ??P6 is Gregg_Vanderheiden

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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it

21:02:34 [jamesn]

zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen

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+James_Nurthen; got it

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+ +1.617.584.aacc

21:04:58 [MichaelC]

zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it

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+ +1.315.457.aadd

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+ +1.703.761.aaee

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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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zakim, Bruce_Bailey? is Katie_Haritos-Shea

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it

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21:11:31 [MichaelC]

zakim, Bruce_Bailey is Tim_Boland

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sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named 'Bruce_Bailey'

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zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell

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+Ben_Caldwell; got it

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zakim, +1.315 is Tim_Boland

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sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.315'

21:13:36 [David]

scribe: David

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present: Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea,Loretta_Guarino_Reid

21:22:54 [David]

Resolution: accept 2784, 2786, 2789 as proposed

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Topic: Issue 2791: C14: User Agent Notes "keyed off"

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Resolution: accept 2791 as amended

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Topic: Issue 2792: G18: Description

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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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Action: cooper to create visual examples of G18...

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Created ACTION-67 - Create visual examples of G18... [on Michael Cooper - due 2010-01-21].

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Resolution: accept G18 as amended

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+ +1.781.839.aaff

21:36:17 [David]

"Liquid layouts define layout regions that both resize with text, and reflow as needed to display the region on-screen ."

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"Liquid layouts define layout regions that both resize with text, and reflow as needed to display the region on the screen ."

21:37:48 [bcaldwell]

zakim, who is making noise?

21:38:05 [Zakim]

bcaldwell, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_MacDonald (14%)

21:38:15 [David]

I was talking

21:38:20 [MichaelC]

zakim, mute bruce

21:38:20 [Zakim]

'bruce' is ambiguous, MichaelC

21:38:26 [MichaelC]

zakim, mute bruce_bailey

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'bruce_bailey' is ambiguous, MichaelC

21:38:37 [bcaldwell]

zakim, mute Bruce_Bailey

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'Bruce_Bailey' is ambiguous, bcaldwell

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-Bruce_Bailey

21:38:53 [MichaelC]

zakim, mute bruce_bailey

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Bruce_Bailey should now be muted

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21:39:12 [Zakim]

+ +1.443.415.aagg - is perhaps Bruce_Bailey

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-Bruce_Bailey

21:39:49 [MichaelC]

zakim, Bruce_Bailey is Tim_Boland

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+Tim_Boland; got it

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zakim, +1.443 is Bruce_Bailey

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sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.443'

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+ +1.315.457.aahh

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Resolution: 2397 accepted as amended

21:40:23 [MichaelC]

zakim, Tim is Bruce_Bailey

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+Bruce_Bailey; got it

21:40:29 [MichaelC]

zakim, +1.315 is Tim_Boland

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+Tim_Boland; got it

21:41:55 [David]

topic: Issue 2794: H69: Example 3 "they" and "them"

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-Bruce_Bailey

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+ +1.443.415.aaii - is perhaps Bruce_Bailey

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zakim, who's noisy

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I don't understand 'who's noisy', David

21:46:08 [MichaelC]

zakim, +1.443 is Bruce_Bailey

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sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.443'

21:46:27 [David]

zakim, who is noisy

21:46:27 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'who is noisy', David

21:46:50 [David]

zakim who is making noise

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Resolution accept 2794 as amended

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Resolution: accept 2794 as amended

21:51:59 [David]

zakim, who is making noise?

21:52:10 [Zakim]

David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andrew_Kirkpatrick (20%), David_MacDonald (4%), Michael_Cooper (64%)

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-Tim_Boland

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- Agree to disagree.

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- Too late for WCAG 2

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- Focus on UAAG with your concerns to be sure they are covered

22:06:26 [greggvanderheiden]

WCAG 2 doesn’t require this. And we can't change WCAG at this point. However we really think that this is a User Agent issue and you should be sure that UAAG highlights this as an important feature for user agents

22:08:35 [David]

action: bcaldwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments

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Sorry, couldn't find user - bcaldwell

22:08:48 [bcaldwell]

zakim, I am Ben_Caldwell

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sorry, bcaldwell, I do not see a party named 'Ben_Caldwell'

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action: Ben_Calwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments

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Sorry, couldn't find user - Ben_Calwell

22:09:30 [bcaldwell]

zakim, who is on the phone?

22:09:30 [Zakim]

On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey

22:09:34 [Zakim]

Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell

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zakim, bcaldwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments

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I don't understand you, MichaelC

22:09:56 [David]

action: Ben to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments

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Created ACTION-68 - Draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments [on Ben Caldwell - due 2010-01-21].

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action: bcaldwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments

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Sorry, couldn't find user - bcaldwell

22:10:27 [MichaelC]

drop action 5

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drop action 3

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drop action 2

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topic: WAI-ARIA comments

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rrsagent, drop action 2

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rrsagent, drop action 3

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rrsagent, drop action 5

22:16:45 [David]

Resolution: accept all WAI-ARIA responses except 115 and 211

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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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Action: Loretta to write up additional responses to WAI-ARIA #115 and #211

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Created ACTION-69 - Write up additional responses to WAI-ARIA #115 and #211 [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2010-01-21].

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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/Group/track/actions/open

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Note: Some Invited Experts do not have access to the Tracker software of the W3C

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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

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-James_Nurthen

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-Gregg_Vanderheiden

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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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-David_MacDonald

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-Michael_Cooper

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-Bruce_Bailey

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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended

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Attendees were +1.443.415.aaaa, David_MacDonald, +1.617.324.aabb, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Tim_Boland?, +1.617.584.aacc, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, +1.315.457.aadd, +1.703.761.aaee,

22:40:35 [Zakim]

... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Ben_Caldwell, +1.781.839.aaff, +1.443.415.aagg, Tim_Boland, +1.315.457.aahh, Bruce_Bailey, +1.443.415.aaii

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chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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regrets: Sofia_Celic

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zakim, bye

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22:50:29 [MichaelC]

rrsagent, bye

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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: cooper to create visual examples of G18... [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc#T21-30-01

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ACTION: Ben to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc#T22-09-56

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ACTION: Loretta to write up additional responses to WAI-ARIA #115 and #211 [6]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc#T22-17-28