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19:00:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
19:00:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
19:00:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start now
19:00:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
19:00:30 <trackbot> Date: 13 January 2010
19:00:38 <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has now started
19:00:39 <Zakim> +Shepazu
19:00:59 <shepazu> Zakim, who is here?
19:00:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shepazu
19:01:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, MikeSmithX, aroben_, hober, gavin, weinig, Marcos, ArtB, tlr, gsnedders, fjh, krijnh, mike, smaug, karl, Dashiva, fearphage, shepazu, steve, Hixie, trackbot,
19:01:02 <Zakim> ... Zakim, inimino
19:01:10 <smaug> just a second
19:02:04 <shepazu> k
19:03:05 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
19:03:18 <Zakim> +??P1
19:03:25 <smaug> Zakim, ??P1 is me
19:03:25 <Zakim> +smaug; got it
19:03:36 <smaug> Zakim, smaug is Olli_Pettay
19:03:36 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
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19:06:57 <smaug> shepazu: Shall we go ahead and address the CSS pseudoclass thingie
19:07:13 <smaug> "The :active pseudo-class applies while an element is being activated by the user. For example, between the times the user presses the mouse button and releases it."
19:07:48 <smaug> shepazu: is there activate pseudo class or only active?
19:08:02 <smaug> smaug: only active
19:09:27 <smaug> shepazu: I don't see  :active to affect considerations to deprecate DOMActivate
19:09:31 <smaug> smaug: I agree
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19:10:27 <smaug> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/PR-css3-selectors-20091215/#the-user-action-pseudo-classes-hover-act
19:12:06 <smaug> smaug: :active "happens before" DOMActivate
19:12:49 <smaug> shepazu: if XForms wants to have DOMActivate, that is fine. They can define their own event if needed.
19:13:55 <smaug> Travis: I have spec review still on my agenda
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19:16:21 <smaug> smaug: there is a bug about korean IME (moz bugzilla), whether or how to fire key events
19:17:14 <smaug> shepazu: I believe Korean has letters and also something else
19:18:39 <smaug> Travis: Arabic may have some similar concept
19:19:23 <smaug> shepazu: problem is that when to go to IME mode and when not with Korean
19:20:16 <shepazu> I'll ask Samsung's Daniel Soo Park
19:21:05 <smaug> shepazu: there was another issue about .data
19:21:09 <smaug> and jQuery
19:21:47 <smaug> shepazu: do we ask jQuery to change, or do we change?
19:22:09 <smaug> Travis: old versions will still use .data
19:22:35 <smaug> Travis: I'm ok changing the name
19:23:40 <smaug> shepazu: I don't care.
19:24:23 <smaug> smaug: I'm ok changing the name, but we should warn jQuery et all that they shouldn't add random properties to events
19:27:58 <smaug> smaug: is jQuery wrapping the native object or adding properties to the native object?
19:28:55 <smaug> shepazu: need to ask J Resig
19:32:08 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Simple_SVG_API
19:41:47 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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19:42:00 <Zakim> -Shepazu
19:42:01 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
19:42:03 <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
19:42:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
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20:16:04 <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
20:16:04 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
20:16:04 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
20:16:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:16:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/13-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
20:16:06 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
20:16:06 <RRSAgent> I see no action items