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19:44:11 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7769
19:44:11 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()3:00PM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
19:44:12 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference
19:44:12 <trackbot> Date: 13 January 2010
19:44:22 <Holger> Regrets: Payam
19:44:30 <Holger> agenda+ Roll call
19:45:04 <Holger> agenda+ Actions from last meeting
19:45:20 <Holger> agenda+ Use case data discovery
19:45:29 <Holger> agenda+ Semantic Markup
19:45:37 <Holger> agenda+ AOB
19:45:43 <Holger> agenda?
19:46:00 <Holger> Chair: Holger
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19:49:44 <krzysztof_j> krzysztof_j has joined #ssn
19:50:31 <krzysztof_j> hi
19:50:50 <Holger> Hi
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19:51:34 <Zakim> INC_SSN()3:00PM has now started
19:51:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:53:34 <Zakim> +Holger
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19:59:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
19:59:32 <Zakim> +Manfred_DERI
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19:59:45 <rgarcia> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
19:59:45 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
19:59:56 <Zakim> +??P4
20:00:10 <Zakim> +??P5
20:00:10 <laurent_oz> ??P4 is laurent_oz
20:00:26 <Zakim> +??P6
20:00:26 <Arthur> zakim, ??P5 is me
20:00:27 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it
20:00:46 <krzysztof_j> zakim, ??P6 is me
20:00:46 <Zakim> +krzysztof_j; got it
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20:00:51 <Holger> zakim, who's making noise?
20:01:04 <Zakim> Holger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (40%), krzysztof_j (100%)
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20:01:21 <Zakim> + +3539149aaaa
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20:01:48 <Zakim> +Prateek
20:01:56 <Zakim> +??P9
20:02:09 <michael> zakim, ??P9 is me
20:02:09 <Zakim> +michael; got it
20:02:16 <Zakim> + +34.91.633.aabb
20:02:31 <ocorcho> zakim, +34.91.633.aabb is ocorcho
20:02:31 <Zakim> +ocorcho; got it
20:02:37 <ocorcho> zakim, mute me
20:02:37 <Zakim> ocorcho should now be muted
20:02:38 <Luis_Bermudez> I will be late 5 minutes...
20:03:26 <Manfred_DERI> zakim, who's here?
20:03:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], Holger, rgarcia, Manfred_DERI, ??P4, Arthur, krzysztof_j, +3539149aaaa, Prateek, michael, ocorcho (muted)
20:03:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see krp, Manfred_DERI, cory, michael, kelsey, laurent_oz, Arthur, Luis_Bermudez, rgarcia, Danh_DERI, krzysztof_j, ocorcho, Zakim, RRSAgent, Holger, trackbot
20:03:44 <Manfred_DERI> zakim, +3539149aaaa is me
20:03:44 <Zakim> +Manfred_DERI; got it
20:05:00 <Zakim> +krp
20:05:03 <Danh_DERI> IPCaller is me
20:05:56 <Zakim> +??P12
20:05:58 <Holger> agenda?
20:06:42 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aacc
20:07:36 <ocorcho> zakim, unmute me
20:07:36 <Zakim> ocorcho should no longer be muted
20:07:55 <ocorcho> zakim, mute me
20:07:55 <Zakim> ocorcho should now be muted
20:08:53 <Holger> ScribeNick: Danh_DERI
20:09:27 <scox> scox has joined #ssn
20:09:52 <laurent_oz> SSN definitions will be sourced from existing resources like OGC (SWE_terms) and VIM (VIM_terms) or from other lists of definitions previously developed e.g. MMI_OntDev_terms or MINET_Glossary. Relevant Wikipedia definitions (Wikipedia_terms) are also collected: the rationale is to identify terms which can be interpreted in multiple ways in different contexts which Wikipedia handles with its "disambiguation" mechanism. 
20:09:53 <laurent_oz> SSN_terms is the list of terms built up by the working group in parallel to the work on the deliverables (ontology and semantic markup). 
20:09:53 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SWE_terms
20:09:53 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/VIM_terms
20:09:55 <laurent_oz> http://marinemetadata.org/community/teams/ontdevices/deviceontterms
20:09:57 <laurent_oz> http://minet3repository.wordpress.com/measurement-domains/measurement-concepts-terminology/minet-glossary-of-perceptive-metrology/
20:10:00 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Wikipedia_terms
20:10:02 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_terms
20:12:08 <krp> +q
20:12:14 <Danh_DERI> every one looks at the list of terms listed by laurent
20:13:20 <Holger> ack krp
20:15:34 <Danh_DERI> laurent suggest to have mapping from SSN terms to suggested lists
20:16:05 <Zakim> +Manfred_DERI.aa
20:16:05 <Zakim> - +1.267.481.aacc
20:16:13 <krp> Laurent: I'll try and help with that (and to familiarise myself with the other term sets)
20:16:17 <ocorcho> zakim, unmute me
20:16:17 <Zakim> ocorcho should no longer be muted
20:16:28 <ocorcho> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Use_Case_Data
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20:21:46 <ocorcho> zakim, mute me
20:21:46 <Zakim> ocorcho should now be muted
20:21:53 <Holger> agenda+ EGU2010
20:22:11 <Danh_DERI> everyone have look on Data Use Case in Wiki to give comments
20:22:28 <cory> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Markup_Draft_Deliverable#Sensor_Discovery_Use_Case
20:25:14 <Danh_DERI> Cory propose to link Sensor Discovery Use Case with Semantic Markup package
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20:27:35 <Danh_DERI> Disovery will be supported by annotated links in Sensor ML document
20:28:11 <scox> +q
20:31:06 <krzysztof_j> +q
20:31:14 <Holger> ack scox
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20:32:04 <krzysztof_j> which would mean that we do not need the arcrole?
20:33:05 <krp> Or... with the acrole there, would anything break if the associated xlink:href were to a GML ID #
20:33:24 <krp> I think it would all be fine (nay, better)
20:34:04 <krp> +q
20:34:29 <Holger> ack krzysztof_j
20:34:54 <scox> arcrole overlaps with the name of the element that the xlinks sit on (in GML) 
20:36:35 <krzysztof_j> could you describe such a case?
20:37:31 <laurent_oz> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Review_of_semantic_annotation_proposals 
20:38:17 <Holger> ack krp
20:40:19 <laurent_oz> Test case to add: GML example which already use arcrole (consistency)
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20:42:48 <krzysztof_j> http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/PR-xlink-20001220/#link-semantics
20:43:21 <Holger> agenda?
20:44:43 <Holger> zakim, who's making noise?
20:44:55 <Zakim> Holger, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (31%), Arthur (3%)
20:46:01 <Holger> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/EGU2010Abstract
20:46:23 <Danh_DERI> deadline of EGU 2010 is next moday?
20:47:08 <Holger> zakim, mute IPcaller
20:47:08 <Zakim> [IPcaller] should now be muted
20:47:25 <laurent_oz> Dagstuhl Seminar Semantic Challenges in Sensor Networks 
20:47:25 <laurent_oz> http://www.dagstuhl.de/Materials/index.en.phtml?10042
20:47:25 <laurent_oz> Participants includes Manfred Hauswirth, Amit Sheth, Oscar Corcho, Cory Henson,
20:47:49 <laurent_oz> +q
20:48:37 <ocorcho> +q
20:48:41 <ocorcho> zakim, unmute me
20:48:41 <Zakim> ocorcho should no longer be muted
20:48:42 <laurent_oz> -q
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20:49:09 <Holger> ack ocorcho
20:49:35 <ocorcho> zakim, mute me
20:49:35 <Zakim> ocorcho should now be muted
20:50:07 <ocorcho> +1
20:50:09 <michael> +1
20:50:10 <rgarcia> +1
20:50:10 <krzysztof_j> +1
20:50:11 <cory> +1
20:50:11 <Manfred_DERI> +1
20:50:14 <Arthur> +1
20:50:16 <Holger> +1
20:50:17 <scox> +1
20:50:24 <laurent_oz> +1 add links to the call in the wiki page
20:50:41 <Danh_DERI> Simon to present the work of the group in EGU 2010
20:50:43 <krp> +1
20:50:48 <Danh_DERI> +1
20:52:28 <scox> |Thanks all
20:52:30 <Zakim> -Manfred_DERI.a
20:52:32 <Zakim> -Manfred_DERI.aa
20:52:34 <Zakim> -michael
20:52:35 <Zakim> -rgarcia
20:52:35 <Zakim> -Manfred_DERI
20:52:37 <Zakim> -Arthur
20:52:46 <Zakim> -ocorcho
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20:53:41 <Zakim> -krp
20:53:48 <Holger> zakim, bye
20:53:48 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were [IPcaller], Holger, Manfred_DERI, rgarcia, Arthur, krzysztof_j, Prateek, michael, ocorcho, krp, +1.267.481.aacc
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20:53:58 <Holger> rrsagent, make log public
20:54:06 <Holger> rrsagent, draft minutes
20:54:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/13-ssn-minutes.html Holger
20:54:13 <Danh_DERI> holger : how can i create minutes?
20:54:19 <Holger> rrsagent, bye
20:54:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items