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<trackbot> Date: 12 January 2010
<dug> Bonjour Bob
<Bob> Hola
<asoldano> hi
<dug> yves - what's the "-617" mean?
<dug> ah
<DaveS> Dave Snelling will need to leave the call for a few minute in the middle.
<dug> I thought your home base was in Europe
<Yves> it is
<dug> ah
<dug> got it - makes sense
<Bob> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/chair-tools/scribelist.html
<scribe> scribe: gpilz
<DaveS> Attendees:
<DaveS> Tom Rutt - USA - Fujitsu
<DaveS> Doug Davis - USA - IBM
<DaveS> David Snelling - USA - Fujitsu
<DaveS> Martin D Chapman - UK - Oracle
<DaveS> Gilbert Pilz - USA - Oracle
<DaveS> Ram Jeyaraman - USA - Microsoft
<DaveS> Ashok Malhotra - USA - Oracle
<DaveS> Asir S Vedamuthu - India - Microsoft
<DaveS> Bob Freund - USA - Hitachi
<MartinC> I probably wont be attending in person
Bob: make sure you send Dave Snelling the appropriate info
<Yves> sent
all: (misc. discussion on which issues are ready for discussion/resolution)
<dug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0065.html
Doug: (describes proposal)
... probably too early to act on this today
Bob: (directs members to review and be prepared to discuss mabe next week)
<dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8293
<DaveS> Dave S leaving the call for a few minutes.
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8293
<Vikas> Vikas joining the call.
<Ram> +1
Gil: reviews proposal
resolution: issue 8293 resolved with proposal contained in issue description
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8295
Ram: there are earlier resolutions that address this (8200 and 8297)
resolution: issue 8295 closed with no action
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8296
Ram: same comment as before
<dug> "When this element is not present, the endpoint MUST return all available metadata. "
resolution: issue 8296 closed with no action
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8205
Ram: I need more time
<dug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0025.html
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8164
<Ram> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0046.html
<Bob> li?
the current editor's draft says: A subscription manager MAY choose to support mechanisms, such as the [WS-MakeConnection] specification, to enable delivery of notifications to non-addressable endpoints. See the [WS-MakeConnection] specification for more information, and an example, of how this would work.
<DaveS> Dave S dialing back in Thx.
<dug> proposal: add "and the SubscriptionEnd message" to the MC text per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0025.html but do not include the Note:
resolution: issue 8164 closed with above change
<dug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0045.html
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8176
Doug: (describes proposal)
Ram: agrees with proposal mod an editorial change
s/conformat/conformant/
<dug> and "implementation"
resolution: 8176 resolved with above proposal mod spelling corrections
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8275
Doug: (objects to requiring XPath)
<dug> happy crap!
Gil: would like more time
<scribe> ACTION: item to gil to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - item
<scribe> ACTION: item to gpilz to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - item
<scribe> ACTION: item to pilz to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - item
<scribe> ACTION: gilbert to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-133 - Submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0 [on Gilbert Pilz - due 2010-01-19].
<Ram> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0032.html
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8281
resolution: issue 8281 closed with above resolution
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8300
resolution: issue 8300 with proposal in original issue email
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8284
<asoldano> yes
<dug> yes?
<Bob> yes, he could hear me
<dug> ah missed that
http://www.w3.org/2009/12/ws-enu
<scribe> ACTION: gilbert - concrete proposal to 8284 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-134 - - concrete proposal to 8284 [on Gilbert Pilz - due 2010-01-19].
<scribe> ACTION: ram - list of obectionable requirements in Section 4 of BP 1.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-135 - - list of obectionable requirements in Section 4 of BP 1.1 [on Ram Jeyaraman - due 2010-01-19].
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8303
<Ram> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0051.html
<dug> "Additional extension elements MAY be included only after the mandated first child element." to "If present, any extension elements MUST be included after the mandated first child element."
Doug: second part of proposal is moot
resolution: issue 8303 (remaining part) resolved with above text
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8192
<Ram> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0072.html
resolution: issue 8192 closed with proposal in above message
<MartinC> motion to sleep
gil: request ws-eventing issues be covered in the morning to accomodate Martin
<dug> 8286 today?
<dug> gil - yep, an effect of FormatURI
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