IRC log of ws-ra on 2010-01-12
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WSRA
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- ok, trackbot, I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM already started
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- Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 January 2010
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- +Bob_Freund
- 20:26:44 [dug]
- Bonjour Bob
- 20:26:52 [Bob]
- Hola
- 20:27:35 [asoldano]
- hi
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- +[Microsoft]
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- chair: Bob Freund
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- + +984999aaaa
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- +??P4
- 20:30:14 [dug]
- zakim, who is on?
- 20:30:14 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, dug.
- 20:30:21 [dug]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:30:21 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [IBM], Bob_Freund, [Microsoft], +984999aaaa, ??P4
- 20:30:28 [dug]
- zakim, IBM is Dug
- 20:30:28 [Zakim]
- +Dug; got it
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- +Tom_Rutt
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- +Yves
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- +Ashok_Malhotra
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- +asoldano
- 20:31:53 [dug]
- yves - what's the "-617" mean?
- 20:31:54 [DaveS]
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- 20:32:33 [dug]
- ah
- 20:32:48 [DaveS]
- Dave Snelling will need to leave the call for a few minute in the middle.
- 20:33:07 [Katy]
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- 20:33:08 [dug]
- I thought your home base was in Europe
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- +li
- 20:33:21 [Yves]
- it is
- 20:33:38 [dug]
- ah
- 20:34:05 [dug]
- got it - makes sense
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- +JeffM
- 20:35:21 [Bob]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/chair-tools/scribelist.html
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- +Gilbert_Pilz
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- + +03531803aabb
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- + +1.408.202.aacc
- 20:37:45 [Bob]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 20:37:45 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Gilbert_Pilz
- 20:38:01 [gpilz]
- scribe: gpilz
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- topic: agenda
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0072.html
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- + +0192670aadd
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- q+
- 20:39:22 [DaveS]
- Attendees:
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- Tom Rutt - USA - Fujitsu
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- Doug Davis - USA - IBM
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- David Snelling - USA - Fujitsu
- 20:39:22 [DaveS]
- Martin D Chapman - UK - Oracle
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- Gilbert Pilz - USA - Oracle
- 20:39:25 [DaveS]
- Ram Jeyaraman - USA - Microsoft
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- Ashok Malhotra - USA - Oracle
- 20:39:28 [DaveS]
- Asir S Vedamuthu - India - Microsoft
- 20:39:30 [DaveS]
- Bob Freund - USA - Hitachi
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- + +1.571.262.aaee
- 20:39:40 [gpilz]
- topic: upcoming F2F meeting
- 20:39:42 [MartinC]
- I probably wont be attending in person
- 20:39:55 [gpilz]
- Bob: make sure you send Dave Snelling the appropriate info
- 20:40:27 [Yves]
- sent
- 20:40:52 [dug]
- q+
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- - +1.571.262.aaee
- 20:41:43 [Bob]
- ack dug
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- + +1.571.262.aaff
- 20:42:21 [gpilz]
- all: (misc. discussion on which issues are ready for discussion/resolution)
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- topic: issue 8068
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0065.html
- 20:43:40 [gpilz]
- Doug: (describes proposal)
- 20:43:56 [gpilz]
- .... probably too early to act on this today
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- Bob: (directs members to review and be prepared to discuss mabe next week)
- 20:44:40 [gpilz]
- topic: issue 8293
- 20:44:42 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8293
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- Dave S leaving the call for a few minutes.
- 20:44:42 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8293
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- -??P4
- 20:45:18 [Vikas]
- Vikas joining the call.
- 20:45:40 [Ram]
- +1
- 20:45:46 [gpilz]
- Gil: reviews proposal
- 20:46:02 [gpilz]
- resolution: issue 8293 resolved with proposal contained in issue description
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- topic: issue 8295
- 20:46:25 [Ram]
- q+
- 20:46:40 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 20:46:48 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8295
- 20:47:05 [gpilz]
- Ram: there are earlier resolutions that address this (8200 and 8297)
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- resolution: issue 8295 closed with no action
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- topic: issue 8296
- 20:48:08 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8296
- 20:48:21 [gpilz]
- Ram: same comment as before
- 20:48:25 [dug]
- "When this element is not present, the endpoint MUST return all available metadata. "
- 20:48:53 [gpilz]
- resolution: issue 8296 closed with no action
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- topic: issue 8205
- 20:52:42 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8205
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- Ram: I need more time
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- topic: issue 8164
- 20:54:05 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0025.html
- 20:54:07 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8164
- 20:55:10 [Ram]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0046.html
- 20:57:01 [Bob]
- li?
- 20:57:31 [gpilz]
- the current editor's draft says: A subscription manager MAY choose to support mechanisms, such as the [WS-MakeConnection] specification, to enable delivery of notifications to non-addressable endpoints. See the [WS-MakeConnection] specification for more information, and an example, of how this would work.
- 20:58:14 [DaveS]
- Dave S dialing back in Thx.
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- +??P16
- 20:59:50 [dug]
- proposal: add "and the SubscriptionEnd message" to the MC text per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0025.html but do not include the Note:
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- resolution: issue 8164 closed with above change
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- topic: issue 8176
- 21:01:47 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0045.html
- 21:01:55 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8176
- 21:02:30 [Ram]
- q+
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- Doug: (describes proposal)
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- ack ram
- 21:03:02 [gpilz]
- Ram: agrees with proposal mod an editorial change
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- s/conformat/conformant/
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- and "implemention"
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- s/implemention/implementation/
- 21:04:12 [gpilz]
- resolution: 8176 resolved with above proposal mod spelling corrections
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- topic: issue 8275
- 21:04:31 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8275
- 21:06:27 [gpilz]
- Doug: (objects to requiring XPath)
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- happy crap!
- 21:06:33 [gpilz]
- Gil: would like more time
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack dave
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- q+
- 21:08:25 [Katy]
- q+
- 21:08:45 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:09:44 [Bob]
- ack bob
- 21:09:47 [Bob]
- ack katy
- 21:09:53 [gpilz]
- q+
- 21:10:14 [Bob]
- ack gpi
- 21:10:36 [Katy]
- q+
- 21:10:45 [dug]
- q+
- 21:10:51 [DaveS]
- q+
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- ack katy
- 21:11:12 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:11:16 [Bob]
- ack dave
- 21:11:33 [gpilz]
- action item: gil to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0
- 21:11:33 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - item
- 21:11:55 [gpilz]
- action item: gpilz to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0
- 21:11:55 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - item
- 21:12:25 [gpilz]
- action item: pilz to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0
- 21:12:25 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - item
- 21:12:44 [gpilz]
- action: gilbert to submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0
- 21:12:44 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-133 - Submit new proposal to 8275; no compliance, recommend XPath 1.0 [on Gilbert Pilz - due 2010-01-19].
- 21:13:21 [gpilz]
- topic: issue 8281
- 21:13:24 [Ram]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0032.html
- 21:13:29 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8281
- 21:13:54 [dug]
- q+
- 21:14:07 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:14:44 [gpilz]
- resolution: issue 8281 closed with above resolution
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- topic: issue 8300
- 21:15:43 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8300
- 21:17:01 [dug]
- q+
- 21:17:07 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:17:43 [gpilz]
- resolution: issue 8300 with proposal in original issue email
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- topic: issue 8284
- 21:18:22 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8284
- 21:18:33 [asoldano]
- yes
- 21:21:37 [dug]
- yes?
- 21:21:52 [Bob]
- yes, he could here me
- 21:22:03 [Bob]
- s/here/hear
- 21:22:10 [dug]
- ah missed that
- 21:22:43 [Ram]
- q+
- 21:22:57 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 21:25:06 [Ram]
- q+
- 21:25:52 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 21:26:22 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/12/ws-enu
- 21:26:31 [Tom_Rutt]
- q+
- 21:26:59 [Bob]
- ack tom
- 21:29:13 [dug]
- q+
- 21:30:01 [gpilz]
- q+
- 21:30:11 [Zakim]
- - +984999aaaa
- 21:30:20 [dug]
- q-
- 21:30:33 [Bob]
- ack gpi
- 21:30:43 [Zakim]
- + +91.98.49.99.aagg
- 21:31:56 [gpilz]
- action: gilbert - concrete proposal to 8284
- 21:31:56 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-134 - - concrete proposal to 8284 [on Gilbert Pilz - due 2010-01-19].
- 21:32:14 [gpilz]
- action: ram - list of obectionable requirements in Section 4 of BP 1.1
- 21:32:14 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-135 - - list of obectionable requirements in Section 4 of BP 1.1 [on Ram Jeyaraman - due 2010-01-19].
- 21:32:46 [gpilz]
- topic: issue 8303
- 21:32:52 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8303
- 21:33:38 [Ram]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Jan/0051.html
- 21:34:15 [dug]
- q+
- 21:34:46 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:35:15 [dug]
- q+
- 21:35:28 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:37:13 [dug]
- "Additional extension elements MAY be included only after the mandated first child element." to "If present, any extension elements MUST be included after the mandated first child element."
- 21:37:29 [gpilz]
- Doug: second part of proposal is moot
- 21:38:05 [gpilz]
- resolution: issue 8303 (remaining part) resolved with above text
- 21:38:33 [gpilz]
- topic: issue 8192
- 21:38:39 [gpilz]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8192
- 21:38:52 [Ram]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Dec/0072.html
- 21:40:43 [gpilz]
- resolution: issue 8192 closed with proposal in above message
- 21:41:45 [MartinC]
- motion to sleep
- 21:41:51 [gpilz]
- topic: f2f preparations
- 21:41:53 [gpilz]
- q+
- 21:41:59 [Bob]
- ack gpi
- 21:42:30 [gpilz]
- gil: request ws-eventing issues be covered in the morning to accomodate Martin
- 21:44:33 [dug]
- 8286 today?
- 21:48:19 [Ram]
- q+
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- q+
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- q+
- 21:51:34 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 21:52:23 [Ram]
- q+
- 21:52:44 [Bob]
- ack gp
- 21:52:52 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:53:33 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 21:54:06 [dug]
- q+
- 21:54:17 [gpilz]
- q+
- 21:54:20 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:54:58 [Ram]
- q+
- 21:55:09 [Bob]
- ack gpi
- 21:55:49 [dug]
- q+
- 21:56:56 [gpilz]
- q+
- 21:57:04 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 21:58:14 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 21:58:46 [Bob]
- ack gpi
- 22:00:58 [dug]
- gil - yep, an effect of FormatURI
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- - +1.571.262.aaff
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- -Tom_Rutt
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- -??P16
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- -li
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -asoldano
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- -Yves
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- -Dug
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- -Gilbert_Pilz
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- -Bob_Freund
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- - +1.408.202.aacc
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- -Ashok_Malhotra
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- - +03531803aabb
- 22:01:55 [Bob]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 22:01:55 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
- 22:01:57 [Zakim]
- -JeffM
- 22:01:58 [dug]
- not bad - down to 39 issues
- 22:02:05 [asoldano]
- :)
- 22:02:12 [dug]
- oops, 38
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- - +0192670aadd
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- disconnecting the lone participant, +91.98.49.99.aagg, in WS_WSRA()3:30PM
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- WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
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- Attendees were Bob_Freund, [Microsoft], +984999aaaa, Dug, Tom_Rutt, Yves, Ashok_Malhotra, asoldano, li, JeffM, Gilbert_Pilz, +03531803aabb, +1.408.202.aacc, +0192670aadd,
- 22:08:26 [Zakim]
- ... +1.571.262.aaee, +1.571.262.aaff, +91.98.49.99.aagg