IRC log of soap-jms on 2010-01-12
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- Zakim, this will be SJMS
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- Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 January 2010
- 17:07:41 [eric]
- Mark - are you joining us on the phone?
- 17:08:41 [mphillip]
- yes, apologies - having phone trouble - 2 mins
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- Scribe - eric for now.
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- No Objections to previous minutes
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- TOPIC: Review Action Items
- 17:12:24 [mphillip]
- Eric: Has made progress on 108
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- Mark: No progress on 123, or 125
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- Phil: Has done 127 and 128
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- TOPIC: URI specification:
- 17:14:11 [mphillip]
- Eric: Need to talk to Oracle
- 17:15:55 [mphillip]
- Eric: URI spec expired on Jan 1st - is still available and we do not propose to renew it until we have agreed the new IP language
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- TOPIC: Raised issues
- 17:16:28 [mphillip]
- Phil: Issue 21 was raised in error
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- All: No objections to closing issue 21
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- RESOLUTION: Issue 21 will be closed
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- TOPIC: Accepting proposals to close open issues
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- None
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- TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions
- 17:17:41 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/19
- 17:19:34 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: All accept the applied resolution of issue 19
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- Thise closes action 127
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- close-127
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- close action-127
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- ACTION-127 Apply the resolution for Issue 19 closed
- 17:20:41 [mphillip]
- close action-128
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- ACTION-128 Apply the resolution for Issue 20 closed
- 17:21:06 [padams2]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0010.html
- 17:21:27 [mphillip]
- Issue 20
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/20
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- RESOLUTION: All approve the application of the resolution for issue 20
- 17:24:18 [mphillip]
- TOPIC: FAQ - Comments anyone?
- 17:24:33 [mphillip]
- No comments
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- TOPIC: Testing
- 17:24:47 [mphillip]
- Relates to Eric's mail on action 108
- 17:24:53 [eric]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jan/0002.html
- 17:26:06 [mphillip]
- Phil: Took action item 130 related to this
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- Phil: Intended to prototype a test case that includes parameters in a WSDL document
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- Eric: The most important assertions that we have are those that assert priority (precedence) of properties, and those that assert the existence of properties / message formation
- 17:30:30 [mphillip]
- Eric: We could add data to the test cases we already have which would be (apparently) redundant in the non-WSDL test cases, but that would test precedence when applied to WSDL tests
- 17:31:37 [mphillip]
- e.g. See testcase 6 http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/testcases/testcases.html#test0006
- 17:32:32 [mphillip]
- we could add information in the WSDL 1.1 port and verify that the values from the port are used instead of the binding
- 17:34:06 [mphillip]
- OR we could add new test cases to test the precedence rules - this would be ~16 new test cases
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- /~16/6/
- 17:36:37 [mphillip]
- ...and this number would double to account for WSDL 2.0
- 17:38:18 [mphillip]
- another 4 tests would cover tests on the binding - giving a total of 16 WSDL tests
- 17:39:50 [mphillip]
- Phil: The URI does not necessarily mean the URI specified in the WSDL (but it will be easier to document and understand the test case if we use the WSDL URI)
- 17:40:05 [mphillip]
- Phil: Seems like a reasonable approach
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- Mark: Tests 6 & 7 already test the bindings - so these aren't all new tests
- 17:43:12 [mphillip]
- Eric: Agreed - we need to update tests 6 & 7 to reflect the fact that they also test assertion #3002
- 17:44:08 [mphillip]
- Phil: Eric's work means we can close action 30, so I will take an action to develop the first two additional tests (for properties on the service)
- 17:44:19 [mphillip]
- Eric: ...and I will take the remaining 10
- 17:46:10 [mphillip]
- Phil: We can specify just the relevant fragments of WSDL in the test cases
- 17:47:00 [mphillip]
- ACTION: Phil to update test cases 6 & 7 to reflect the decison on WSDL snippets
- 17:47:00 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-131 - Update test cases 6 & 7 to reflect the decison on WSDL snippets [on Phil Adams - due 2010-01-19].
- 17:48:11 [mphillip]
- Phil: Use action 130 to prototype new test cases
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- TOPIC: Implementations
- 17:49:15 [mphillip]
- Eric: TIBCO working on implementation - probably first half of 2010
- 17:49:33 [mphillip]
- Mark: IBM working on another implementation outside WebSphere
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- Mark: Would 2 independent implentations from IBM count towards the W3C test criteria
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- Yves: Yes -if they are from different code bases, though it is less ambiguous if they are from different vendors
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- TOPIC: AOB
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- None
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