IRC log of mwts on 2010-01-12

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
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ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
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Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 12 January 2010
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16:00:07 [dom]
Regrets: Wilhelm
16:00:37 [hendry]
hmm, just rings
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0009.html
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Chair: Dom
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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+??P52
16:01:27 [hendry]
hah, made it
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+Dom
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-Dom
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+Dom
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+Carmelo
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zakim, ??P52 is Kai
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+Kai; got it
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+??P57
16:02:11 [dom]
zakim, ??P57 is dmitr
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+dmitr; got it
16:02:48 [dom]
Topic: Charter extension
16:03:00 [dom]
close ACTION-101
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ACTION-101 Ask for WG extension to the power that be closed
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0008.html Charter extension
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Topic: WCTMB2
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-> http://dev.w3.org/2008/mobile-test/v2/ WCTMB2
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0011.html New tests for WCTMB2 @font-face and canvas tests
16:04:58 [hendry]
no, not yet
16:05:02 [dom]
Dom: tests looked good to me, beyond the modifications I made to @font-face
16:05:19 [hendry]
sure
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ACTION: Kai to review new tests from wilhelm
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Sorry, couldn't find user - Kai
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:)
16:05:59 [dom]
close ACTION-100
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ACTION-100 Review wilhelm's new tests for WCTMB2 (once available) closed
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ACTION-88?
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ACTION-88 -- Kai Hendry to come up with additional proposals for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-10-20 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/88
16:06:27 [dom]
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0007.html Kai sesssionStorage's test
16:07:15 [dom]
Kai: the new localSession test keeps a counter of how many times you run the test
16:07:40 [dom]
... sessionStorage also keeps a counter (per tab/session)
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... which needs to be lower than localStorage
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s/localSession/localStorage/
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dom: just fixed a bug on comparing the counters
16:11:39 [dom]
... would move the counter out of the results list, with an explit "you've run this test X times on this browser"
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ACTION: Kai to update localStorage to move counter out of test results
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Sorry, couldn't find user - Kai
16:12:34 [dom]
Dom: any other idea for tests?
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Kai: I proposed something around screen sizes
16:13:07 [dom]
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0010.html Proposal on screen size tests
16:14:12 [dom]
Dom: not sure how well it fits on WCTMB2
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Kai: what about to connecting the score calculation with the XHR request?
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... this way it would record the scores
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ACTION: Dom to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db
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Created ACTION-103 - Look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-19].
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Kai: another idea: we should print the user agent string somewhere
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... for screenshots
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/4259907961/
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ACTION: Kai to add the user agent string in the detailed results
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Sorry, couldn't find user - Kai
16:17:36 [dom]
close ACTION-88
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ACTION-88 Come up with additional proposals for WCTMB2 closed
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close ACTION-94
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ACTION-94 Add remaining test cases to WCTMB2 closed
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close ACTION-95
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ACTION-95 Look into other test cases for WCTMB2 closed
16:18:52 [dom]
Dom: sent comments on audio and video tests; might need additional modifications
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... Given the remaining actions and corrections needed, we'll need at least one more cycle before announcing the test
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Topic: Test assertions methodology document
16:19:55 [dom]
ACTION-102?
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ACTION-102 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to request publication of TA extraction methodology as FPWG note -- due 2010-01-19 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/102
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0005.html Marcos offer to help edits
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Topic: Next call
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Dom: I probably won't be on the call
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... hopefully Wilhelm will be able to chair
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Topic: AOB
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Kai: quickly, a problem we came across at work
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... Android devices (>1.6) fail the canvas test in WCTMB1
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... but Android actually supports canvas, but not the complicated aspects of the test we're doing
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... this actually misled us
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s/Android/they/
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... we thought Android wouldn't support it for our demos
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Dom: I think we took a specific decision of making the canvas test harder than it originally was
16:25:20 [dom]
Kai: yeah, but maybe we've gone too far in that direction
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-Carmelo
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-Dom
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-Kai
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-dmitr
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Dom, Carmelo, Kai, dmitr
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-minutes.html dom
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s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-minutes.html dom
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Kai to review new tests from wilhelm [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-05-23
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ACTION: Kai to update localStorage to move counter out of test results [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-12-00
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ACTION: Dom to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-15-18
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ACTION: Kai to add the user agent string in the detailed results [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-16-42
16:30:44 [dom]
zakim, bye
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