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19:57:16 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
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19:57:17 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
19:57:17 <trackbot> Date: 07 January 2010
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20:00:08 <ed> trackbot, start telcon
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20:00:12 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
20:00:12 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see GA_SVGWG()3:00PM scheduled to start now
20:00:13 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
20:00:13 <trackbot> Date: 07 January 2010
20:00:37 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG()3:00PM has now started
20:00:43 <Zakim> +??P0
20:00:53 <ed> Zakim, ??P0 is me
20:00:53 <Zakim> +ed; got it
20:01:42 <Zakim> +ChrisL
20:01:53 <ChrisL> zakim, who is here?
20:01:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see ed, ChrisL
20:01:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see ed, Zakim, RRSAgent, eseidel, ChrisL, anthony, shepazu, karl, trackbot, ed_work
20:04:02 <Zakim> +Shepazu
20:04:33 <Zakim> +??P2
20:05:03 <anthony> Zakim, ??P2 is me
20:05:03 <Zakim> +anthony; got it
20:05:40 <ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/errata/implementation-report.html
20:08:09 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/1
20:09:03 <ChrisL> was working on ACTION-2697
20:09:50 <ChrisL> scribenick: chrisl
20:09:58 <ChrisL> topic: action items for 1.1SE
20:09:59 <ChrisL> ACTION-2358
20:10:02 <ChrisL> ACTION-2358?
20:10:02 <trackbot> ACTION-2358 -- Jonathan Watt to propose wording for the clip path pointer-events erratum and masking/compositing module change -- due 2008-12-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:10:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2358
20:10:13 <ed> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JanMar/0001.html
20:10:26 <ChrisL> ACTION-2372?
20:10:26 <trackbot> ACTION-2372 -- Doug Schepers to propose revised wording for the errata item "Capturing pointer-events with a zero opacity mask" to clarify it with clip-path -- due 2008-12-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:10:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2372
20:10:41 <ChrisL> Whos is waiting on what there?
20:10:58 <ChrisL> Regrets: Patrick
20:12:10 <ChrisL> Regrets: Patrick, JWatt
20:13:28 <ChrisL> DS: Did we decide to make it undefined
20:14:04 <ChrisL> leave to next telcon so JWatt can comment
20:14:46 <ChrisL> DS: Sent a draft proposal for the joint CSS SVG taskforce
20:24:59 <ChrisL> ACTION-2695?
20:24:59 <trackbot> ACTION-2695 -- Erik Dahlström to investigate getIntersectionList and add clarification to the specification -- due 2009-11-26 -- OPEN
20:24:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2695
20:25:42 <ChrisL> ED: Reviewed one test by Cameron,
20:25:51 <ed> struct-dom-11-f.svg
20:27:10 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/struct-dom-11-f.svg
20:27:31 <ChrisL> Opera now passes
20:27:49 <ChrisL> ED: Difference of nterpretation on what coordinate system applies
20:28:08 <ChrisL> ... if there is a veiwbox and a container that does not match that aspect ratio
20:28:23 <ChrisL> CL: Is the spec unclear?
20:28:34 <ChrisL> ED: Cam and i interpreted it differently
20:28:44 <ChrisL> "initial coordinate system"
20:28:54 <ed> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/coords.html#InitialCoordinateSystem
20:28:58 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/0062.html
20:30:01 <ChrisL> ed: edited spec to reword, Cam didn't disagree
20:30:39 <ChrisL> cl: does that change affect implementations
20:30:52 <ChrisL> ed: not really. mainly an explicit cross link in the spec
20:31:40 <ChrisL> cl: seems ok to me
20:33:36 <ChrisL> ACTION-2685?
20:33:36 <trackbot> ACTION-2685 -- Erik Dahlström to work on java bindings scripts -- due 2009-10-28 -- CLOSED
20:33:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2685
20:34:40 <ChrisL> ed: have to manually copy *changes* to svg.idl from master to publish, these are *not the same* and the publish script does not update the one in publish
20:34:57 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/coords-dom-03-f.svg
20:36:09 <ChrisL> its in ok. should be marked as accepted
20:36:58 <ChrisL> action ERIK make coords-dom-03-f and struct-dom-11-f accepted
20:36:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2708 - Make coords-dom-03-f and struct-dom-11-f accepted [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-01-14].
20:37:36 <ChrisL> ed: progress on single page PDF. is it manual or automatic
20:37:52 <ChrisL> ag: I used safari to make it
20:38:09 <ChrisL> ds: cameron made it in the build scriopt for tiny 1.2
20:38:32 <ChrisL> cl: maybe uses apache fop?
20:40:16 <ChrisL> cl: we need to make patch files for the tests that batik doesn't pass so we have reference images
20:41:03 <ChrisL> cl: useful to cvs tage the version of errata tests used to exit cr
20:41:24 <ChrisL> list of relevant tests is http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/errata/implementation-report.html
20:42:41 <ChrisL> ACTION-2477?
20:42:41 <trackbot> ACTION-2477 -- Doug Schepers to propose a solution for ISSUE-2071, referring to external resources and how that affects security (\"tainting\" an svg) and how that might apply to methods like elementFromPoint -- due 2009-02-26 -- OPEN
20:42:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2477
20:43:42 <ChrisL> ds: didn't we talk about that in December, there is a way around it
20:45:15 <ChrisL> ds: will get to it this week
20:45:45 <ChrisL> ACTION-2676?
20:45:45 <trackbot> ACTION-2676 -- Chris Lilley to fix the 1.1 second edition wording for values that are accessed where no attribute was provided, http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/svgdom.html#SVGDOMOverview and have it be NaN or 0 with unknown unit depending on the type of domobject -- due 2009-10-06 -- OPEN
20:45:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2676
20:46:24 <ChrisL> re-assigned to Erik
20:48:27 <ChrisL> topic: element and attribute tables
20:48:50 <ChrisL> ag: extracting from xml, putting in hash table
20:49:14 <ChrisL> ds: please document it so we can keep using it
20:49:52 <ChrisL> ds: in future we might extract this from rng which would make it easier
20:50:16 <ChrisL> ... can it be written so extraction part and composing/spec making part are semi independent?
20:50:21 <ChrisL> ag: yeah
20:50:34 <ChrisL> ... by swapping in a different xslt
20:51:06 <ChrisL> ag: its a one-shot thing
20:51:21 <ChrisL> ds: applies to other specs too, handy tool to have
20:52:17 <ChrisL> cl: have a look at tiny1.2 rng if you want
20:53:43 <ChrisL> ag: will work on this over the next week
20:54:49 <ChrisL> ds: would like integration to be a rec so html can reference it
20:55:30 <ChrisL> topic: svg charter update
20:55:39 <ChrisL> ed: whats the timeline here?
20:56:00 <ChrisL> ds: chartered till march, want to have it ready so ac review before charter ends
20:56:18 <ChrisL> ... ensure jwat and patrick are there for that one
20:57:05 <ChrisL> cl: task force charter does not have ac review
20:57:18 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JanMar/0005.html
20:57:18 <ChrisL> ds: but needs to be a subset of the deliverables
20:57:21 <ChrisL> cl: yes
20:59:43 <ChrisL> ed: transitions should be an area of coordinations
21:02:51 <anthony> scribe: anthony
21:03:10 <anthony> ed: you have advanced text layout here what did you mean by it?
21:03:30 <anthony> ds: the two bullet points underneath
21:03:35 <anthony> ... they are sub bullet points
21:03:51 <anthony> ag: might want to turn them into dashes
21:04:02 <anthony> ... to make it more clear they are sub bullet points
21:05:17 <anthony> ed: i guess the task force would go on for sometime?
21:05:29 <anthony> ... that way Cameron can participate and work on layout
21:06:14 <anthony> ds: Cameron gave me feedback on this
21:06:27 <anthony> ... I expect him to be back while taskforce is operating
21:06:46 <anthony> ... I can make the suggested changes
21:06:58 <anthony> ... and a draft charter for next Tuesday
21:07:24 <anthony> ACTION: Doug to Create a draft charter
21:07:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2709 - Create a draft charter [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-01-14].
21:08:16 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/0068.html
21:08:23 <anthony> Topic: Review of ACTION-2597, Case sensitivity errata
21:08:33 <anthony> ACTION-2597?
21:08:33 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
21:08:48 <Zakim> -ChrisL
21:09:50 <Zakim> +ChrisL
21:10:32 <ChrisL> ag: wording different because case sensitivity for rgb was different
21:10:57 <ChrisL> ... tiny errata new section above html color keywords
21:12:07 <ChrisL> ed: maybe possible to miss, a link would help
21:12:30 <ChrisL> .. from definition of integer and float func notation to that section
21:12:51 <ChrisL> ... make it clear its different from 1.1
21:13:32 <ChrisL> ... make it easier to spot they are case insensitive
21:14:08 <ChrisL> ag: add links in the first couple of words in that section. will do that
21:14:47 <ChrisL> topic: f2f location and date
21:15:30 <ChrisL> I have permission to go to LGB2010 in Brussels, if that affects anything
21:15:35 <ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Meetings#F2F_Meeting_Information
21:15:42 <ChrisL> ag: can come to that too
21:17:54 <ChrisL> ds: dom api summic. ecma tc39 is meeting in CA March
21:18:08 <shepazu> ECMA TC39 meeting on March 24-25 at Yahoo
21:19:03 <ChrisL> so a couplde of days after tc39 would be good
21:22:37 <ChrisL> Jon F would be good there
21:23:19 <ChrisL> ds; so fri-sat 26 and 27 for a dom summit?
21:23:31 <ChrisL> ag: priority is the svg f2f
21:23:45 <ChrisL> ed: depends who from opera is going to tc39
21:24:03 <ChrisL> ... probably ok
21:24:21 <ChrisL> ... nice to have some more details to present but couldd do that before the meeting
21:24:28 <ChrisL> ... interesting to go
21:25:15 <ChrisL> lgm is 26-29 May
21:25:42 <ChrisL> http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2010/
21:26:38 <ChrisL> ds: also, remember the mini tp idea?
21:32:35 <ChrisL> ds: maybe minitp 3-5 april
21:33:35 <ChrisL> ... dom summit 1-2 april
21:35:49 <ChrisL> adjourned
21:35:57 <ChrisL> zakim, list attendees
21:35:57 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been ed, ChrisL, Shepazu, anthony
21:36:13 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
21:36:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
21:36:19 <Zakim> -ChrisL
21:36:21 <Zakim> -ed
21:36:29 <Zakim> -anthony
21:36:31 <Zakim> -Shepazu
21:36:33 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG()3:00PM has ended
21:36:34 <Zakim> Attendees were ed, ChrisL, Shepazu, anthony
21:36:44 <ChrisL> chair: Erik
21:36:47 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
21:36:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
21:36:59 <ChrisL> scribe: chris
21:37:02 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
21:37:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
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