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15:52:46 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
15:52:47 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:52:47 <trackbot> Date: 07 January 2010
15:54:16 <MikeSmithX> Chair: MikeSmith
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15:54:33 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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15:55:42 <MikeSmithX> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0065.html
15:57:14 <Zakim> +Eric_Carlson
15:57:25 <MikeSmithX> Regrets: Laura, Stephane, Aurélien
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15:59:14 <MikeSmithX> Regrets+ Markku
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16:00:00 <janina> zakim, call janina
16:00:02 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
16:00:05 <Zakim> +Janina
16:00:32 <gfreed> partial regrets:  geoff f has to leave the call at 11:30.
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16:00:45 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, call Mike
16:00:45 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmithX; the call is being made
16:00:48 <Zakim> +Mike
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16:01:04 <Zakim> +kliehm
16:01:12 <Zakim> +??P32
16:01:21 <Zakim> +Geoff_Freed
16:01:36 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
16:01:55 <Zakim> +??P41
16:02:10 <Zakim> +??P43
16:02:14 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:02:15 <Ben> zakim, ??P41 is Ben_Caldwell
16:02:23 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ Actions Review <- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
16:02:24 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ reports from TF Subgroups (Canvas; Video; ...)
16:02:24 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ ARIA integration followup from previous discussion <- http://www.w3.org/2009/12/10-html-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary
16:02:24 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ review bugs with keyword "a11y" and determine which, or all, should be marked as "a11ytf"
16:02:24 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ Priority / Severity level of HTML WG bugzilla bugs
16:02:25 <Marco_Ranon> probably P32 was me, Marco Ranon. i'm using skype
16:02:25 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ ideas for additional accessibility checking in validator
16:02:26 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
16:02:27 <MikeSmithX> agenda+ New Business
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16:03:05 <Zakim> +??P49
16:03:22 <Marco_Ranon> i'm on the phone but i ca't hear much
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16:04:02 <Zakim> +??P51
16:04:08 <Zakim> +Jon_Gunderson
16:04:13 <Joshue> zakim, ??51 is Joshue
16:04:13 <Zakim> sorry, Joshue, I do not recognize a party named '??51'
16:04:15 <kford> zakim, microsoft is kford
16:04:15 <Zakim> +kford; got it
16:04:16 <kford> zakim, microsoft is kford
16:04:16 <Zakim> sorry, kford, I do not recognize a party named 'microsoft'
16:04:33 <Joshue> zakim, ??P51 is Joshue
16:04:35 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
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16:05:02 <Joshue> zakim, mute me
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16:05:50 <Joshue> I'll scribe
16:05:57 <Joshue> Scribe: Joshue
16:06:23 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, take up item 1
16:06:29 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Actions Review <- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open" taken up [from MikeSmithX]
16:06:33 <Joshue> TOPIC: Action Review
16:06:37 <Zakim> +dsinger
16:07:44 <Joshue> MS: Lots over overdue actions
16:07:58 <MikeSmithX> action-7?
16:07:58 <trackbot> ACTION-7 -- Gregory Rosmaita to propose braille media type (as opposed to simply tactile) or sub-type after consulting with Braille-in-DAISY and others -- due 2010-01-07 -- OPEN
16:07:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/7
16:08:34 <Joshue> MS: I don't see GJR on the call
16:08:40 <Zakim> +Rich
16:08:46 <MikeSmithX> action-7 due 2010-01-15
16:08:46 <trackbot> ACTION-7 propose braille media type (as opposed to simply tactile) or sub-type after consulting with Braille-in-DAISY and others due date now 2010-01-15
16:08:59 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
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16:09:02 <MikeSmithX> action-6?
16:09:02 <trackbot> ACTION-6 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to address fragments versus entire pages as alternatives with HTML WG members -- due 2010-01-07 -- OPEN
16:09:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/6
16:09:23 <Joshue> MS: Rich, anything to report?
16:09:40 <Joshue> RS: We have to talk about his in the canvas WG
16:09:47 <Joshue> s/his/this
16:09:56 <MikeSmithX> action-6: Rich says they still need to address in Canvas TF
16:09:56 <trackbot> ACTION-6 address fragments versus entire pages as alternatives with HTML WG members notes added
16:09:58 <Joshue> RS: We haven't addressed this yet
16:10:10 <Joshue> MS: Do you want to take another week?
16:10:33 <Joshue> RS: Two week please, I'll post to the HTML WG list
16:10:38 <Joshue> s/week/weeks
16:10:44 <MikeSmithX> action-6 due 2010-01-21
16:10:44 <trackbot> ACTION-6 address fragments versus entire pages as alternatives with HTML WG members due date now 2010-01-21
16:11:05 <MikeSmithX> action-5?
16:11:05 <trackbot> ACTION-5 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to david Bolter to ask if the use of contenteditable areas for representing rich text with caret position in the shadow dom would be acceptable for HTML 5 and canvas -- due 2010-01-06 -- OPEN
16:11:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/5
16:11:54 <Joshue> RS: I did discuss this with David, I will drop him a line. He was to look into this with the Mozilla Team.
16:12:08 <MikeSmithX> action-5: Rich says he talked with davidb and waiting for him to report back
16:12:08 <trackbot> ACTION-5 David Bolter to ask if the use of contenteditable areas for representing rich text with caret position in the shadow dom would be acceptable for HTML 5 and canvas notes added
16:12:14 <MikeSmithX> action-5 due 2010-01-21
16:12:14 <trackbot> ACTION-5 David Bolter to ask if the use of contenteditable areas for representing rich text with caret position in the shadow dom would be acceptable for HTML 5 and canvas due date now 2010-01-21
16:12:29 <MikeSmithX> action-4?
16:12:29 <trackbot> ACTION-4 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to get back with the Mozilla team to ensure there are no issues with allowing standard HTML5 input controls in the shadow DOM -- due 2010-01-06 -- OPEN
16:12:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/4
16:12:41 <Joshue> MS: The last one is also on Rich.
16:13:09 <MikeSmithX> action-4: Rich talked talked with davidb, will follow up with him
16:13:09 <trackbot> ACTION-4 Get back with the Mozilla team to ensure there are no issues with allowing standard HTML5 input controls in the shadow DOM notes added
16:13:13 <MikeSmithX> action-4 due 2010-01-21
16:13:13 <trackbot> ACTION-4 Get back with the Mozilla team to ensure there are no issues with allowing standard HTML5 input controls in the shadow DOM due date now 2010-01-21
16:13:14 <Joshue> RS: I did talk to DavidB on that also. Am pinging him now. Another 2 weeks please.
16:13:20 <MikeSmithX> action-3?
16:13:20 <trackbot> ACTION-3 -- Cynthia Shelly to create revised summary proposal for January 14th, 2010 -- due 2009-12-24 -- OPEN
16:13:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/3
16:13:47 <MikeSmithX> action-3: Cynthia met with Wendy, on track for next week
16:13:48 <trackbot> ACTION-3 Create revised summary proposal for January 14th, 2010 notes added
16:13:48 <Joshue> CS: Mine is due next week. I spoke to Wendy about this and it is on track.
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16:13:51 <Joshue> MS: Ok
16:14:07 <MikeSmithX> action-4 due 2010-01-14
16:14:07 <trackbot> ACTION-4 Get back with the Mozilla team to ensure there are no issues with allowing standard HTML5 input controls in the shadow DOM due date now 2010-01-14
16:14:15 <Joshue> MS: I will change the due date to the 14th Jan
16:14:16 <MikeSmithX> action-4 due 2010-01-21
16:14:16 <trackbot> ACTION-4 Get back with the Mozilla team to ensure there are no issues with allowing standard HTML5 input controls in the shadow DOM due date now 2010-01-21
16:14:18 <dsinger> Zakim, mute me
16:14:18 <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
16:14:21 <MikeSmithX> action-3 due 2010-01-14
16:14:21 <trackbot> ACTION-3 Create revised summary proposal for January 14th, 2010 due date now 2010-01-14
16:14:38 <Joshue> MS: Next one on GJR also
16:14:42 <MikeSmithX> action-02?
16:14:44 <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Gregory Rosmaita to deliver draft of change proposal for ARIA additions to HTML 5 by 2009-12-24 -- due 2009-12-24 -- OPEN
16:14:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/2
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16:15:09 <MikeSmithX> action-2 due 2010-01-14
16:15:09 <trackbot> ACTION-2 Deliver draft of change proposal for ARIA additions to HTML 5 by 2009-12-24 due date now 2010-01-14
16:15:10 <Joshue> MS: I will ask GJR on the list about this one
16:15:21 <MikeSmithX> action-1?
16:15:21 <trackbot> ACTION-1 -- Cynthia Shelly to write overall approach HTML support of ARIA -- due 2009-12-17 -- OPEN
16:15:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/1
16:15:31 <Joshue> CS: I have done this
16:15:34 <Joshue> MS: Ok
16:15:43 <MikeSmithX> action-1: Cynthia sent to list
16:15:43 <trackbot> ACTION-1 Write overall approach HTML support of ARIA notes added
16:15:50 <MikeSmithX> close action-1
16:15:50 <trackbot> ACTION-1 Write overall approach HTML support of ARIA closed
16:16:29 <MikeSmithX> zakim, take up item 2
16:16:31 <Zakim> agendum 2. "reports from TF Subgroups (Canvas; Video; ...)" taken up [from MikeSmithX]
16:16:51 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, ??P49 is Henny
16:16:51 <Zakim> +Henny; got it
16:17:17 <Joshue> TOPIC:  Reports from Task force sub groups
16:17:26 <Joshue> MS: First up <canvas>, Rich?
16:18:13 <Joshue> RS: We meet before the break, no real movement. Am setting up a call. We are discussing the shadow DOM and content editable sections etc.
16:18:28 <MikeSmithX> q?
16:18:37 <Joshue> RS: Looking at rendering visual elements of the same components also.
16:19:10 <MikeSmithX> q+ to ask if there are any open HTML WG bugzilla bugs for which the Canvas TF is awaiting resolution
16:19:28 <Joshue> RS: Looking at CSS3 media queries, and hooking up with David Singer. Prob no issue adding additional properties etc but there should be an alternative even i no absolute match.
16:20:25 <Joshue> RS: Looking at alternative content, mashups etc. Fragments vs source objects a la <video> elements. Here you may go to an external service and grab content.
16:21:00 <Joshue> RS: There are many APIs for merging content, the question is for a fragment do we want to support them or have a seperate page (like in an iframe)
16:21:28 <Joshue> RS; The source for media types is limited, for objects to be pulled in and we need to make sure that we need a fragment - that will change spec
16:21:40 <Joshue> MS: Have you reached concensus, is there a bug?
16:21:54 <Joshue> RS: What is the process? Discuss on list or raise bug?
16:21:55 <MikeSmithX> Regrets+ Wendy
16:22:37 <Joshue> RS: If it is not going to change there is really no bug. I want to discuss that first.
16:22:53 <dsinger> Q+
16:23:00 <Joshue> MS: Ok. we need actionable bugs, this needs to be clear.
16:23:05 <MikeSmithX> q- later
16:23:10 <dsinger> Zakim, unmute me
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16:23:12 <MikeSmithX> ack dsinger 
16:23:14 <Joshue> RS: I will post to the HTML WG and Ian for his thoughts.
16:23:54 <Joshue> DS: I think that filling bugs is a good idea, otherwise we may be asking the editor to do something prematurely.
16:24:03 <Joshue> RS: Do you want to talk to address this?
16:24:35 <Joshue> DS: We should discuss it first.
16:25:19 <MikeSmithX> q-
16:25:25 <Joshue> RS: What do people think about using fragments as alternative types etc?
16:25:39 <Joshue> RS: I want to get peoples thoughts.
16:25:40 <dsinger> Zakim, mute me
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16:25:53 <Joshue> MS: It sounds like <canvas> is moving along fine
16:25:58 <dsinger> Zakim, unmute me
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16:26:10 <Joshue> MS: Dave can you give us a summary on <video>?
16:26:19 <Joshue> TOPIC: Video
16:26:55 <Joshue> DS: We should start on the wiki, not a lot to report right now..but work on the wiki will be a good place to start.
16:27:18 <dsinger> Zakim, mute me
16:27:18 <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
16:27:38 <Joshue> MS: I'll put the URL into minutes later.
16:27:43 <MikeSmithX> zakim, take up next item
16:27:43 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Actions Review <- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open" taken up [from MikeSmithX]
16:27:53 <MikeSmithX> zakim, take up item 3
16:27:53 <Zakim> agendum 3. "ARIA integration followup from previous discussion <- http://www.w3.org/2009/12/10-html-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary" taken up [from MikeSmithX]
16:28:03 <Joshue> TOPIC: ARIA integration
16:28:08 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page
16:28:27 <Joshue> MS: The first call focussed on ARIA integration and getting the conformance criteria agreed upon.
16:28:49 <Joshue> MS: So how much progress have we made? Steve?
16:29:05 <Joshue> SF: We are a standstill at the moment.
16:29:20 <Joshue> SF: Same as where we were before Xmas
16:29:34 <Joshue> MS: What do people think we can do to move this forward?
16:29:42 <MikeSmithX> q?
16:29:50 <Joshue> SF: Do it piecemeal and file bugs as we go.
16:30:00 <Joshue> MS: Ok
16:30:12 <Joshue> MS: Any objections?
16:30:46 <Joshue> CS: I have a suggestion, could be work on it during this call?
16:31:34 <Joshue> MS: Yes
16:31:54 <Joshue> SF: Can we send a bug to the list, discuss at meeting and then it would be filed?
16:31:58 <Joshue> MS: Lets do that
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16:32:47 <Joshue> SF: Bugs can be posted and brought in, discussed etc. Good way to get going.
16:33:11 <Joshue> MS: Good idea, we need to make this a priority. Lets do that.
16:33:46 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:34:10 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:34:19 <Joshue> SF: When we put a bug in that is rejected, does it go into issue tracker? We don't want loads of bugs but issues about ARIA that need to be addressed?
16:34:52 <Joshue> SF: So a bug that is rejected gets escalated to the issue tracker.
16:34:56 <Zakim> -Geoff_Freed
16:35:00 <Joshue> MS: Yes, right.
16:35:12 <Joshue> CS: Are we still not deciding what the categories are?
16:35:20 <Joshue> SF: We can talk it
16:35:22 <MikeSmithX> agenda?
16:35:40 <Joshue> CS: The glaring issues etc
16:35:45 <Joshue> SF: Yes
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16:36:00 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, drop item 1
16:36:00 <Zakim> agendum 1, Actions Review <- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open, dropped
16:36:03 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, drop item 3
16:36:03 <Zakim> agendum 3, ARIA integration followup from previous discussion <- http://www.w3.org/2009/12/10-html-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary, dropped
16:36:27 <Joshue> MS: Ok, thats all on that.
16:36:56 <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?field-1-0-0=keywords&keywords=a11y&query_format=advanced&remaction=&type-1-0-0=anywords&value-1-0-0=a11y&order=bugs.bug_id&query_based_on=
16:37:01 <Joshue> TOPIC: Review Bugs and keywords
16:37:13 <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?field-1-0-0=keywords&keywords=a11y&query_format=advanced&remaction=&type-1-0-0=anywords&value-1-0-0=a11y&order=bugs.bug_id&query_based_on=
16:37:29 <Laura> Bug Collection, Development, Status and Resolution: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs
16:37:30 <Joshue> MS: These are the bugs that are marked with the numeronym a11y
16:37:46 <Joshue> MS: Some resolved, fixed etc
16:38:08 <Joshue> MS: I will look at the ones that are not marked with task force keywords
16:38:31 <Joshue> MS: In the interest of looking at the most recent..
16:39:02 <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8674
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16:39:16 <Joshue> MS; [To all] Please look through the list, if you want to discuss on the call get in queue
16:40:06 <Joshue> MS: Hixie has rejected this one, and made a suggestion.
16:40:44 <Joshue> <discussion on <menu> and bug>
16:41:07 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:41:15 <Joshue> SF: I am confused about comment - breaking backwards compat?
16:41:20 <Joshue> MS: Yeah, me 2
16:41:34 <Joshue> MS: Do we want to add the task force keyword to this?
16:41:39 <Joshue> MS: Yes, no?
16:41:55 <Joshue> SF: Maybe Rich could answer this?
16:42:32 <Joshue> CS: Implementors I talk to will not want to base their APIs on nesting.
16:42:37 <Joshue> SF: Right
16:42:52 <Joshue> JS: The proposed solution may not be adequate
16:43:39 <Joshue> MS: I will add the keyword, if new info comes along etc I will add to the bug
16:43:53 <Joshue> MS: Otherwise we will consider escalating.
16:44:16 <Joshue> CS: Henny can you talk to Opera?
16:44:20 <Joshue> HS: Yes
16:44:37 <Laura> Escalating a Bug to an Issue: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/Escalating_a_Bug_to_an_Issue
16:45:10 <MikeSmithX> action: Cynthia to follow up with IE team about whether implementers are willing to use parent/child/nesting relationships could be used in mappings logic
16:45:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-8 - Follow up with IE team about whether implementers are willing to use parent/child/nesting relationships could be used in mappings logic [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2010-01-14].
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16:45:49 <Joshue> MS: I won't go thru all these now, does anyone have high priority bugs they want to talk about on this call?
16:45:54 <Joshue> <silence>
16:46:04 <Joshue> MS: What about 8671?
16:46:09 <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8671
16:46:15 <Joshue> MS: Making the @label required?
16:46:27 <Joshue> MS: It is a significant change to the spec..
16:46:29 <MichaelC> q+ to volunteer to take an action item to make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting
16:47:40 <Joshue> CS: Do we need a consensus on what we need to talk about?
16:47:59 <MichaelC> ack me
16:47:59 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper, you wanted to volunteer to take an action item to make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting
16:48:00 <MikeSmithX> ack
16:48:22 <dsinger> Q+
16:48:25 <Joshue> MC: I volunteer to take an action for the bugs we should track,
16:48:33 <Joshue> I'll take an action
16:48:37 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:48:51 <MikeSmithX> action: Cooper to make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting
16:48:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-9 - Make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting [on Michael Cooper - due 2010-01-14].
16:48:57 <Joshue> SF: Can we denote if we don't want to discuss them
16:49:07 <Joshue> SF: There is a duplication maybe?
16:49:09 <dsinger> Zakim, unmute me
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16:49:10 <Joshue> MS: Yes
16:49:21 <Joshue> MC: I can use bugzilla
16:49:38 <Joshue> DS: Comments would be best, to say this has or hasn't been discussed.
16:50:21 <Joshue> MC: We should remove the TF keyword..to reduce noise etc
16:50:35 <dsinger> Zakim, mute me
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16:50:59 <Joshue> MS: Yes, thats a good idea
16:51:13 <Joshue> MS: Anything else that needs attention?
16:51:27 <dsinger> Zakim, unmute me
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16:52:22 <janina> q+
16:52:22 <Joshue> DS: Gez has been entering a lot of bugs, I am concerned about say Media a11y issue, and single pixel issues but maybe we miss the big picture?
16:52:42 <Joshue> JOC: Good point David, I agree
16:52:55 <MikeSmithX> q?
16:53:11 <MikeSmithX> ack dsinger 
16:53:21 <Joshue> MC: We can use bugzilla for various groupings and create relationships between bugs.
16:53:32 <MikeSmithX> ack Joshue 
16:53:34 <Joshue> DS: There is a big picture that needs to be developed.
16:53:37 <MikeSmithX> ack janina 
16:53:38 <dsinger> Zakim, mute me
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16:54:47 <Joshue> JS: What Gez is doing, started at TPAC. There may have been a misunderstanding as to how much work needed to be done, so we wanted to identify issues. Item by item and pixel by pixel may not be the best approach, but we just need to identify what needs to be worked on. 
16:55:09 <dsinger> Ok
16:55:09 <Joshue> JS: Keywords would provide a working mechanism, to get them on the table as such.
16:55:25 <dsinger> Ack dsinger
16:55:37 <dsinger> Zakim, mute me
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16:55:45 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, take up item 5
16:55:45 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Priority / Severity level of HTML WG bugzilla bugs" taken up [from MikeSmithX]
16:56:00 <Joshue> TOPIC: Priority Severity Level of Bugs
16:56:37 <Joshue> MS: I spoke with MC and JS about this, the chairs perspective is that they dont pay much attention to the Priority levels etc.
16:58:02 <Joshue> MS: They have no significance..Hixie has changed some of the bugs - the editors change them, others with access can change them- not really an issue for the WG or the a11y TF. Thoughts?
16:58:46 <Joshue> JS: Again, a misunderstanding. The advice would be to leave it at default.
16:58:54 <Joshue> MS: Yes
16:59:19 <Joshue> TOPIC: Validation Tools
16:59:35 <Joshue> MS: We will talk about this next week.
16:59:39 <MikeSmithX> zakim, take up item 7
16:59:39 <Zakim> agendum 7. "New Business" taken up [from MikeSmithX]
16:59:49 <Joshue> TOPIC: AOB
16:59:56 <Joshue> MS: ?
16:59:58 <MikeSmithX> q?
17:00:23 <Zakim> -Jon_Gunderson
17:00:30 <Joshue> MS: Ok, next meeting. Next week, same time.
17:00:49 <Joshue> MS: Volunteers for scribe next week?
17:00:53 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
17:00:54 <Joshue> SF: I'll try
17:01:09 <Zakim> -Rich
17:01:11 <Zakim> -kford
17:01:14 <Zakim> -Eric_Carlson
17:01:16 <dsinger> Bye
17:01:18 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
17:01:19 <Zakim> -Henny
17:01:22 <MikeSmithX> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:01:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmithX
17:01:22 <Zakim> -StevenF
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17:02:27 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended
17:02:30 <Zakim> Attendees were Eric_Carlson, Janina, Mike, kliehm, Geoff_Freed, Michael_Cooper, Ben_Caldwell, Marco_Ranon, Jon_Gunderson, kford, StevenF, Joshue, dsinger, Rich, Cynthia_Shelly,
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